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PostSubject: Re: "HFH" stills of Dylan and Eric   Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:40 am

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Another discussion about " relocating a bully." ERIC V is the victim (again) and EH/DK are the Hitmen.

ERIC V opens the scene at ( 1:42 )

ERIC V : " People are always making fun of me ,

I don't like it , i really don't ,it makes me mad."

ERIC H and DYLAN KLEBOLD appear in the distance.

ERIC V ( upon seeing EH/DK approaching ) says " OHHHHHHH! "
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ERIC H and DYLAN KLEBOLD approach ERIC V and discuss the " hit. " At ( 2:23 ):
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(2:23 ) ERIC H / DYLAN KLEBOLD : " We can protect you "

DK : " For a cost."

EV : " I'll pay anything!"

EH : " Alright , that's 20 dollars in school ,you know we can't have weapons on school grounds."

EV : " Well , that's fine ,i'll get him off the property'"

EH : " Alright ,we'll protect you in school then ,take away any bullies that are picking on you ,

whatever ,and off school grounds , we can relocate this person.

That will be a thousand dollars."

EV : " Thank you so much ! "


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PostSubject: Re: "HFH" stills of Dylan and Eric   Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:32 am

( 3:05 ) I found this scene quite interesting. The bully ( played by Mike Vendengia ) is walking into a trap.
ERIC HARRIS and DYLAN KLEBOLD are waiting for him ,notice E/D's shadows to the right.
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Look how big Eric H looks!  He makes Dylan K look tiny. Do you think this shadow effect was intentional ?
It certainly makes Eric look a lot taller than Dylan.


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PostSubject: Re: "HFH" stills of Dylan and Eric   Fri Dec 20, 2013 1:54 pm

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[I think That Eric ( at times ) wanted to tell his closest friends about NBK , Eric's mastermind plan.
Obviously Eric couldn't do that , so , he lets slip little hints , but these hints don't draw any real attention because his friends just didn't take it seriously. Maybe. Just a thought of mine.

I'd always assumed that Eric conceived of the idea for H4H and also "Radioactive Clothing." Both of the boys showed above average skills for creative writing, but H4H and "Radioactive Clothing" seem to play into Eric's fantasy life.

I agree that Eric dropped a lot of hints about NBK. In fact, he outright told a number of people about the plan. I was recently reading the class notes he exchanged with Kristi Eplin and she mentions right off that he has a "list" and that she knows he plans to kill people. Here's an excerpt:


Epling:
..did I make your hit list yet?
Harris:
nope, yer on my “semper fi” list, but (Redacted) still is in the top 5, along with this asshole named (Redacted) or (Redacted) or something.
Epling:
That’s fine, he knows that. He wants off, or rather, he doesn’t want to die anytime soon.
Harris:
He will always be under the gun and in the sights since he hit me in the face, even though it didn’t hurt at all. Until I get to hit him back I will always be pissed at him and his dick head friend too. If they want “off” then tell them to show some fuckin’ respect to their elders(me and Dylan) and never make another smart ass remark about (illegible) to us.
Epling:
If you’re going to be pissed at me for being with (Redacted), then that is your thing, but I think that it’s stupid. I’m still the same person, I didn’t change just because I’m with him, but you are going to do what you will.
Harris:
Exactly. But I didn’t think you would go out with someone like him. But oh fuckin well es ist mir scheiss egal. Does he still want me to be nice to him?
Epling:
I’m sorry I let you down, but I’m happy (illegible) for now, he never wanted you to be nice to him, he just didn’t want you to kill him(he’s definitely scared of you)
Harris:
Well if he will let me punch him in face… His friend is another story though. I’ll kill him…


Eric also told people at Blackjack that he was spending his money on propane bombs to "blow up the school" and it was reported that on the day before the attack that he told a number of people that he was "finalizing his plans for tomorrow."

And then there's the whole matter of his webpages and journals.... No doubt Eric wanted recognition and attention for NBK; whether he was hoping for an intervention is debatable, I suppose. That said, I'm of the opinion that the fact that an intervention didn't happen fed into his despair and justified his and Dylan's following through with the attack.
Who punched Eric in the face? Do you know when the assault took place ?
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PostSubject: Re: "HFH" stills of Dylan and Eric   Fri Dec 20, 2013 2:03 pm

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Who punched Eric in the face? Do you know when the assault took place ?

Dan Lab punched Eric. I think the altercation may have come about because of Lab and Larson "ripping" on Eric and Dylan about the way they dressed.
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PostSubject: Re: "HFH" stills of Dylan and Eric   Fri Dec 20, 2013 2:04 pm

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( 3:05 ) I found this scene quite interesting. The bully ( played by Mike Vendengia ) is walking into a trap.
Eric H and Dylan K are waiting for him ,notice E/D's shadows to the right.
Look how big Eric H looks!  He makes Dylan K look tiny. Do you think this shadow effect was intentional ?
It certainly makes Eric look a lot taller than Dylan.

I really like the frame by frame analysis and commentary you're providing. Thanks! Your comments and insights are interesting and illuminating.
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PostSubject: Re: "HFH" stills of Dylan and Eric   Fri Dec 20, 2013 2:13 pm

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Eric never lashed out with his fists at home. He did at school and other places ,but never at home.
Why was that?

He still loved and respected his parents?
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PostSubject: Re: "HFH" stills of Dylan and Eric   Fri Dec 20, 2013 2:32 pm

rik75 wrote:
gustopoet wrote:
rik75 wrote:
[I think That Eric ( at times ) wanted to tell his closest friends about NBK , Eric's mastermind plan.
Obviously Eric couldn't do that , so , he lets slip little hints , but these hints don't draw any real attention because his friends just didn't take it seriously. Maybe. Just a thought of mine.

I'd always assumed that Eric conceived of the idea for H4H and also "Radioactive Clothing." Both of the boys showed above average skills for creative writing, but H4H and "Radioactive Clothing" seem to play into Eric's fantasy life.

I agree that Eric dropped a lot of hints about NBK. In fact, he outright told a number of people about the plan. I was recently reading the class notes he exchanged with Kristi Eplin and she mentions right off that he has a "list" and that she knows he plans to kill people. Here's an excerpt:


Epling:
..did I make your hit list yet?
Harris:
nope, yer on my “semper fi” list, but (Redacted) still is in the top 5, along with this asshole named (Redacted) or (Redacted) or something.
Epling:
That’s fine, he knows that. He wants off, or rather, he doesn’t want to die anytime soon.
Harris:
He will always be under the gun and in the sights since he hit me in the face, even though it didn’t hurt at all. Until I get to hit him back I will always be pissed at him and his dick head friend too. If they want “off” then tell them to show some fuckin’ respect to their elders(me and Dylan) and never make another smart ass remark about (illegible) to us.
Epling:
If you’re going to be pissed at me for being with (Redacted), then that is your thing, but I think that it’s stupid. I’m still the same person, I didn’t change just because I’m with him, but you are going to do what you will.
Harris:
Exactly. But I didn’t think you would go out with someone like him. But oh fuckin well es ist mir scheiss egal. Does he still want me to be nice to him?
Epling:
I’m sorry I let you down, but I’m happy (illegible) for now, he never wanted you to be nice to him, he just didn’t want you to kill him(he’s definitely scared of you)
Harris:
Well if he will let me punch him in face… His friend is another story though. I’ll kill him…


Eric also told people at Blackjack that he was spending his money on propane bombs to "blow up the school" and it was reported that on the day before the attack that he told a number of people that he was "finalizing his plans for tomorrow."

And then there's the whole matter of his webpages and journals.... No doubt Eric wanted recognition and attention for NBK; whether he was hoping for an intervention is debatable, I suppose. That said, I'm of the opinion that the fact that an intervention didn't happen fed into his despair and justified his and Dylan's following through with the attack.
Who punched Eric in the face? Do you know when the assault took place ?


So, it's Kristi Epling's boyfriend who punched Eric in the face. That would be Dan Lab, if I'm not mistaken?

The whole exchange with Kristi, that's crazy... What did she think, that it was a pretend hit list? Wonder how she felt afterward. So many people knew something was up but said nothing. Just like with the cafeteria drawings that a few people saw, Eric trying to ''recruit'' Chris onto the team, etc.

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PostSubject: Re: "HFH" stills of Dylan and Eric   Fri Dec 20, 2013 2:52 pm

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So, it's Kristi Epling's boyfriend who punched Eric in the face. That would be Dan Lab, if I'm not mistaken?

Yes, that's probably why Kristi was swapping this particular set of notes w/ Eric -- to try to get Lab off of Eric's list.
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PostSubject: Re: "HFH" stills of Dylan and Eric   Fri Dec 20, 2013 3:12 pm

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Who punched Eric in the face? Do you know when the assault took place ?

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PostSubject: Re: "HFH" stills of Dylan and Eric   Fri Dec 20, 2013 7:11 pm

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rik75 wrote:
( 3:05 ) I found this scene quite interesting. The bully ( played by Mike Vendengia ) is walking into a trap.
Eric H and Dylan K are waiting for him ,notice E/D's shadows to the right.
Look how big Eric H looks!  He makes Dylan K look tiny. Do you think this shadow effect was intentional ?
It certainly makes Eric look a lot taller than Dylan.

I really like the frame by frame analysis and commentary you're providing. Thanks! Your comments and insights are interesting and illuminating.
Thank you ! I really appreciate your kindness.  Smile
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PostSubject: Re: "HFH" stills of Dylan and Eric   Sat Dec 21, 2013 4:56 pm

The final scene of " The done deal " with Dylan K , Eric H and Eric V (6:25)

Dylan K and Eric H have successfully " dealt with " The bully and tormentor of Eric V.

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ERIC V :" Thank you guys , you have saved my life !"

( Notice Eric V's hand gestures. Pleading and begging , with heart felt gratitude. )

( Notice Dylan's posture - leaning against the table , relaxed and casual. )

( Notice Eric H's posture - standing upright , hands clasped together , and taking his role seriously. )

THE ROLE of a COOL , CALM and CALCULATED MURDERER ,of which HE BECAME and played SO NATURALLY! 


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( ERIC V has left the scene. )

ERIC H : " You know what ? he's kind of getting boring." ( Referring to ERIC V.)

DYLAN K : " Yes , he is. "

ERIC H : " We should...." ( Dylan cuts in and , " speaks over " Eric , and Eric doesn't get his line in. )

DYLAN K : " We should kill him."

ERIC H : " I think he should die."
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DYLAN K : " Alright , lets get going."
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PostSubject: Re: "HFH" stills of Dylan and Eric   Sun Dec 22, 2013 10:24 am

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His first rant is at ( 6:47 ) I can't understand what he says at the beginning of the rant.
It ends with "........And ass you , i'm going to fuck you up."
Lol, I think it's impossible to elucidate what Chris Morris is saying with all that censoring in the beginning.
I play it back in slow motion , but i still can't quite understand the few words he says. I'm sure i will get it right after a few more playbacks !
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PostSubject: Re: "HFH" stills of Dylan and Eric   Sun Dec 22, 2013 5:10 pm

Eric appears to be , " going thin on top."  Either that or my eyes deceive me!
I don't think it is due to the lighting or hair product. Was he losing his hair ? 
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PostSubject: Re: "HFH" stills of Dylan and Eric   Sun Dec 22, 2013 5:47 pm

I don't think you can be that bald at 17. Probably the hair gel he used, gave the impression he was balding.
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PostSubject: Re: "HFH" stills of Dylan and Eric   Sun Dec 22, 2013 6:48 pm

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I don't think you can be that bald at 17. Probably the hair gel he used, gave the impression he was balding.
Taking that into consideration ,he does have quite a large wedge missing.
An uncle of mine went completely bald aged 18.
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PostSubject: Re: "HFH" stills of Dylan and Eric   Sun Dec 22, 2013 7:46 pm

I tend to think that the light above is hitting his buzz cut and the top area is growing in a different direction from the rest of his hair.
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PostSubject: Re: "HFH" stills of Dylan and Eric   Mon Dec 23, 2013 12:20 pm

Maybe that's one reason he was always wearing a hat.
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PostSubject: Re: "HFH" stills of Dylan and Eric   Mon Dec 23, 2013 12:32 pm

I doubt he was going bald at 17 years old. I think it is just how the lighting is. His Father may be going bald but he is well into his 60's and I am sure his brother was over 35 in that photo, not 17.

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PostSubject: Re: "HFH" stills of Dylan and Eric   Mon Dec 23, 2013 12:48 pm

"The American Academy of Dermatology reports that in adult men, the incidence of androgenic alopecia is roughly equivalent to chronological age,"

So 18% of men who are 18 experience androgenic alopecia, or close to 1 in 5.
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PostSubject: Re: "HFH" stills of Dylan and Eric   Mon Dec 23, 2013 12:49 pm

Really? That seems like a lot.

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PostSubject: Re: "HFH" stills of Dylan and Eric   Mon Dec 23, 2013 12:55 pm

Not really. If you look closely, you'll see a lot of young guys are thinning up top. That's one reason "buzz" cuts and hats are so popular. First person to find a real cure for MPB will be richer than Bill Gates.  Smile
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PostSubject: Re: "HFH" stills of Dylan and Eric   Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:05 pm

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           [ Too short to be Dylan ]  [ Too heavy to be Eric H or Eric V ]  [ Similar height/build of Mike Vendengia ]

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PostSubject: Re: "HFH" stills of Dylan and Eric   Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:22 pm

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"The American Academy of Dermatology reports that in adult men, the incidence of androgenic alopecia is roughly equivalent to chronological age,"

So 18% of men who are 18 experience androgenic alopecia, or close to 1 in 5.

Geez. I hope that doesn't happen to me anytime soon. I am nearly 23 and still have a lot of hair. I thought wearing a hat causes hair loss?!?
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PostSubject: Re: "HFH" stills of Dylan and Eric   Tue Dec 24, 2013 2:44 am

Technically the first sign of balding is excessive loss of hair. When did either Eric or Dylan have a bald spot? And not what rik75 posted as that shows Eric had a full head of hair, it's just a lighter shade of blonde.
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PostSubject: Re: "HFH" stills of Dylan and Eric   Tue Dec 24, 2013 2:45 am

gustopoet wrote:
"The American Academy of Dermatology reports that in adult men, the incidence of androgenic alopecia is roughly equivalent to chronological age,"

So 18% of men who are 18 experience androgenic alopecia, or close to 1 in 5.
That statistic is skewed. It's basically saying 100% of 100 year old men will be bald, when this actually might not be the case.
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PostSubject: Re: "HFH" stills of Dylan and Eric   Tue Dec 24, 2013 9:05 am

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Technically the first sign of balding is excessive loss of hair. When did either Eric or Dylan have a bald spot? And not what rik75 posted as that shows Eric had a full head of hair, it's just a lighter shade of blonde.
I never said Dylan had a bald spot. I believe Eric did , and it can been clearly seen in the pics i have posted. 
I don't believe that Eric's crown was a lighter shade of blonde. He has quite a wedge of hair missing , and his scalp is clearly seen too. Eric's father and brother are ( as seen in the pics i have posted ) going through the M.P.B process.
Therefore , Eric would also, naturally go bald too due to the condition being hereditary . Eric's bald wedge is obvious and quite striking. Eric's hair was also receding around the forehead , and he was developing a " widows peak." 

The first sign of balding isn't excessive loss of hair. A guy could go completely bald in a matter of weeks or months.
Whereas , another guy could go bald over a matter of years. I know people who have been " going thin on top" , and have continued doing so for over 10 years , and they are not even fully bald. M.P.B effects people differently.
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PostSubject: Re: "HFH" stills of Dylan and Eric   Tue Dec 24, 2013 10:25 am

Ivan wrote:
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"The American Academy of Dermatology reports that in adult men, the incidence of androgenic alopecia is roughly equivalent to chronological age,"

So 18% of men who are 18 experience androgenic alopecia, or close to 1 in 5.
That statistic is skewed. It's basically saying 100% of 100 year old men will be bald, when this actually might not be the case.

No, it's basically saying that 100% of 100 yr old men would experience some thinning of hair, which is absolutely the case.
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PostSubject: Re: "HFH" stills of Dylan and Eric   Tue Dec 24, 2013 10:43 am

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I thought wearing a hat causes hair loss?!?

That's a myth. A good way to test to see if you have MPB is to pull at the hair on your crown. If more than one or two hairs come out, you have a preliminary symptom.

Just because you have thinning hair does NOT mean you will go bald right away.

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PostSubject: Re: "HFH" stills of Dylan and Eric   Tue Dec 24, 2013 10:46 am

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gustopoet wrote:
"The American Academy of Dermatology reports that in adult men, the incidence of androgenic alopecia is roughly equivalent to chronological age,"

So 18% of men who are 18 experience androgenic alopecia, or close to 1 in 5.

Geez. I hope that doesn't happen to me anytime soon. I am nearly 23 and still have a lot of hair. I thought wearing a hat causes hair loss?!?
Unless you have close relatives ( father / brother ) that are bald , or going bald , i wouldn't worry about it.
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PostSubject: Re: "HFH" stills of Dylan and Eric   Tue Dec 24, 2013 11:02 am

Is there any evidence that Wayne Harris had a bad temper? Does anyone know what his high-school life was like? Was he popular? (Yes, I know I should go research this myself and I will...)
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