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PostSubject: Re: Rampart Range. Footage ,dialogue and stills.   Tue Feb 04, 2014 6:19 pm

(13:54) We have a very short clip. Almost one second of film. The camera started filming , and then stopped filming quite abruptly. 

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Jessica's hair looks quite golden in the sunlight.

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            (13:55) Jessica takes a shot with Arlene , she was warned about the kick.

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                                               BANG ! FIREBALL OF FURY ! !

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                                  Jessica begins to feel the AWESOME recoil.

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                   The trigger end begins to fall , and the muzzle end begins to rise.

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                            Jessica rested the SG on her left arm , for stability.

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                                  Arlene came incredibly close to Jessica's face. 

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                                                  JM: " Holy shit !"

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                                                   Everyone has a laugh.
PD : WOO ! HAAA !

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PostSubject: Re: Rampart Range. Footage ,dialogue and stills.   Wed Feb 05, 2014 6:26 pm

(14:06) Mark fires two shots with his rifle , aiming at BP's , Mark hits them both.

              [ A moment before Mark fires his first shot , Eric says : " Shot in the head."]

                     [ Eric throws something into the woods , probably threw it at the BP]
                                                                                    
                         Mark is very pleased with himself and says : " Yeah !"

                                                    DK : " Two in a row."

                                                    MM : " Right up its ass."

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                   Marks fires at the BP's laying on their side , to the left of the tree.

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                                                 EH : " Another high one."

                                                EH : " Whoa ! That got it!"

                                           PD : " What you shooting at man?"

                                        EH : " Shot the center one , right up the butt."

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                                        Phil uses the rifle and aims for the BP's.

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                      Phil fires three rounds and misses the BP's , turns around and asks :

                                              PD : " Was i shooting high ?"

                                              EH : " A little bit."

                                      DK : " A little bit and little to the....left."

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                                 Phil fires two more rounds , and misses the BP's.

                           Phil fires three more rounds and hits a BP with each shot.

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                                       [Phil holds up his BP's with much pride.]

            PD : " Stuff these and hang em on my wall  man , right above my fireplace."

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                           PD : " That thing ripped that mother fucker up , dude."

                            [ Eric is filming. / Dylan's hand right hand suddenly appears.]

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                                                    [ Reaching for the BP.]

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                                         [ Curiosity drives Dylan's right hand.] 

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[ Because Dylan wants to feel the bullet damage , touch it and fiddle with it with his fingers.]

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                                              PD : " Damn ! Yo Mark ! Look!"

                                           [ Phil goes over to show Mark his BP.]

      [ Eric is filming , when Phil walked away , Dylan quickly asks Eric to look at the tree.]

                                   DK : " Reb ! You see all the SG pellet holes?"

                                  [ Reb turns around and begins to film the tree ] 

                                          Reb : " This is what a slug does."

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                       Reb : " 9 MM."                                                   " SLUG."

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                            " 9 MM."                                                    " SLUG."

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                            DK : " Oh this is a Shot....i think this is a SG here too."

                                                        Reb : " Where?"

                                                       DK : " Right here."

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                                                        [ Reb laughs.]

                                                      DK : " Goddammit!"

                                          Reb : " What about those down there?"


                                                       DK : " Where?"

         Reb : " That's form the SK , or the...                            DK : "... Desert?"

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                               [ Dylan probes the " wound " with his sun glasses.]

                                        Reb : " I don't know what that's from."

                             DK : " I think its from the...." [ Camera stops filming.]

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                                        Reb : " This is a normal tree that was wasted"

                                                  MM : " Hey Reb ! Rebel."

                                                   Reb : " Hold on."

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                   Reb : " Good tree."                                              " Bad."

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                                                       [ REBEL laughs.]
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PostSubject: Re: Rampart Range. Footage ,dialogue and stills.   Thu Feb 06, 2014 3:02 pm

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Hey, rik75! that's a tremendous job you've been doing. It is fascinating to look at Rampage Range in detail. There's so much to catch once you take scenes one by one. We actually see how they handled arms and a lot of the dynamic between each other as well. Unless I'm forgetting something, it's really the only video we have where we see them being themselves and talk between themselves, not ''in character'' as in their other productions.

Now, my hope is that one day, you get to do the same for the Basement Tapes you're doing now for RR!
Thank you JayJay ! I appreciate it. We can learn so much about Eric and Dylan in RR.
As you said , we can see E/D being themselves , handling their firearms. I believe RR doesn't get the recognition and attention it deserves ( not because it is a great piece of motion pictures ) , for several reasons. Some people ( a good friend of mine , i am trying to get her interested in NBK  ),  are not interested in the movie and say , " RR is a short movie about E/D target practicing in the woods , just shooting at BP's and trees , yeah so what ?" We can look more deeply than that. 


When i watch RR and work on this thread , taking lots of still pics , looking at scenes frame by frame , i can easily put myself , my eyes and ears , into CHS on 20/4/99 during NBK. I would have never been able to do that without RR. Without RR i would never have been able to see Eric and Dylan standing side by side , wearing their trench coats and being armed to the teeth with weapons that are powerful as hell , firing the weapons , THE weapons , the weapons they both used to kill so many people.


On page 3 of this thread , i outlined many questions of which , would have been asked for several decades  if RR had been banned from public view by the authorities. Those questions are answered in the movie. Not only do we see E/D firing their murder weapons , we can also witness their violent and suicidal tendencies. NBK was merely six weeks away and we can clearly see E/D honing their shooting skills as they prepare for " their life's work and judgement day."


We can see Eric and Dylan's " normal side." As far as Mark , Phil and Jessica are concerned , E/D are exactly that , " normal " , just normal kids having fun by shooting a few rounds. MM/PD/JM never knew exactly what kind of boys accompanied them at Rampart Range that day. They never knew they were spending the day with two incredibly dangerous mass murderers , of which will live in infamy for all of time.
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PostSubject: Re: Rampart Range. Footage ,dialogue and stills.   Sat Feb 08, 2014 10:03 am

(15:45) Reb is filming the bullet damaged tree and zooms in for a closer look.

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                            PD : " ....Right way , gotta chop em down with a gun."

                                                       Reb : " Yeah."

                                                        DK : " Laughs."

               PD : " Fucking shot it with Marks .45 once dude , Fucking thing fell over."

                          [ Phil shows us the tree he " chopped down with a gun." ]

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Shotgun shells litter the area. Reb films the others as they pick up the spent shell casings.

                                         Reb : " Just a few Shotgun shells."

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(16:05) Jessica is firing Marks rifle , aiming for two BP's.

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Misses the first shot of three.

MM : " Left." 

Jessica misses all three shots.

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PostSubject: Re: Rampart Range. Footage ,dialogue and stills.   Mon Feb 10, 2014 1:58 am

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(13:39) Eric and Dylan show us their " battle wounds."

[They both have cuts between thumb and index fingers.]

[ When you saw off a gun at both ends , naturally you will be left with rough and sharp edges. E & D didn't bother smoothing out those rough edges , with a file or grinder. That probably wasn't on their long list of priorities regarding NBK.]

PD " .....With guns."

Dylan points to the camera and warns us :

DK : " Don't play with cut off Shotguns !"                              Eric shows us his cuts.

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                  [Dylan's cuts are on his left hand and Eric's cuts are on his right hand.]

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         [ Dylan and Eric both appear to be quite amused about their " battle wounds."]

[Phil highlights the dangers of illegally sawing off a SG.]

PD : " Guns are bad , when you saw them off and make them illegal , bad things happen to you !"

DK : " Yeah."

                    Dylan's wounds.                                                Eric's wounds.

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   [ Notice Dylan's hand , his fingers are quite long and slender. Kind of like Pianist fingers.]

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                   [ Eric's fingers are slender too. Not quite as long as Dylan's.]

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                              Eric lowers his head and smiles at the camera.

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                            Eric has a dimple on his chin. [ Baby faced killer.]

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PD : " Just say no to sawed offs !"

Eric takes Phil's advice and jokingly reprimands Arlene.

                                                 [ Dylan is holding Arlene.]

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[ Notice how small Arlene looks in Dylan's hands.]

Eric appears , grabbing hold of Arlene with his left hand.

[ Notice Eric's left hand , it is tightly wrapped around Arlene's barrel.]

[ Although Eric is dead , his body language speaks volumes.]

[ Around Arlene , Eric's acts quite possessive and controlling.]

[ Eric wants Arlene to himself.]

[Eric playfully slaps Arlene.]  
                                                           Slaps her once.
                                                          
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                                                        Slaps her twice.

                                          Eric reprimands Arlene : " Baaaaaad!"

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                                                    Slaps her three times.

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Dylan also reprimands Arlene.

                      DK : " No.......

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                        .......No !

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                      .........No !"

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Can I just ask why the size of their fingers matter?
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PostSubject: Re: Rampart Range. Footage ,dialogue and stills.   Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:28 am

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(13:39) Eric and Dylan show us their " battle wounds."

[They both have cuts between thumb and index fingers.]

[ When you saw off a gun at both ends , naturally you will be left with rough and sharp edges. E & D didn't bother smoothing out those rough edges , with a file or grinder. That probably wasn't on their long list of priorities regarding NBK.]

PD " .....With guns."

Dylan points to the camera and warns us :

DK : " Don't play with cut off Shotguns !"                              Eric shows us his cuts.

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                  [Dylan's cuts are on his left hand and Eric's cuts are on his right hand.]

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         [ Dylan and Eric both appear to be quite amused about their " battle wounds."]

[Phil highlights the dangers of illegally sawing off a SG.]

PD : " Guns are bad , when you saw them off and make them illegal , bad things happen to you !"

DK : " Yeah."

                    Dylan's wounds.                                                Eric's wounds.

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   [ Notice Dylan's hand , his fingers are quite long and slender. Kind of like Pianist fingers.]

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                   [ Eric's fingers are slender too. Not quite as long as Dylan's.]

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                              Eric lowers his head and smiles at the camera.

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                            Eric has a dimple on his chin. [ Baby faced killer.]

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PD : " Just say no to sawed offs !"

Eric takes Phil's advice and jokingly reprimands Arlene.

                                                 [ Dylan is holding Arlene.]

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[ Notice how small Arlene looks in Dylan's hands.]

Eric appears , grabbing hold of Arlene with his left hand.

[ Notice Eric's left hand , it is tightly wrapped around Arlene's barrel.]

[ Although Eric is dead , his body language speaks volumes.]

[ Around Arlene , Eric's acts quite possessive and controlling.]

[ Eric wants Arlene to himself.]

[Eric playfully slaps Arlene.]  
                                                           Slaps her once.
                                                          
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                                                        Slaps her twice.

                                          Eric reprimands Arlene : " Baaaaaad!"

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                                                    Slaps her three times.

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Dylan also reprimands Arlene.

                      DK : " No.......

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                        .......No !

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                      .........No !"

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Can I just ask why the size of their fingers matter?
When i noticed the size of Dylan's fingers , i was thinking about Dylan firing his Shotgun.
Dylan's Shotgun had two triggers , one for each barrel. Long slender fingers are ideal for pulling both triggers at the same time. I didn't mention that in the thread , i intending on doing so , but i simply forgot , and stated Dylan had , " pianist fingers." Comparing both Eric and Dylan's finger size was merely an observation of mine.
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PostSubject: Re: Rampart Range. Footage ,dialogue and stills.   Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:19 pm

So , after 400+ pictures / A couple of hundred words / A couple of dozen hours.

We have reached the end of " RAMPART RANGE."
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PostSubject: Re: Rampart Range. Footage ,dialogue and stills.   Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:20 pm

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So , after 400+ pictures / A couple of hundred words / A couple of dozen hours.

We have reached the end of " RAMPART RANGE."

 cheers You have done a great job on this thread.
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PostSubject: Re: Rampart Range. Footage ,dialogue and stills.   Tue Feb 11, 2014 7:58 am

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So , after 400+ pictures / A couple of hundred words / A couple of dozen hours.

We have reached the end of " RAMPART RANGE."

 cheers You have done a great job on this thread.
Thank you , i appreciate it ! I really enjoyed analyzing Eric and Dylan's behavior. I have learnt a great deal about them both too. All of which could only have be done with RR. Without RR , i could never have been able to witness E/D , wearing their trench coats AND firing their murder weapons. Yes , i have gained a massive insight into their behavior. 
I also hope this thread has helped other's and aided them in gaining a better insight into Eric and Dylan's behavior , especially regarding their firearms , and their attitudes regarding violence and suicide.
Thank you queenfarooq  Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Rampart Range. Footage ,dialogue and stills.   Tue Feb 11, 2014 9:05 am

Thanks for the work, Rik. It was thoroughly interesting and revealed many things I would've normally not spotted. Are you doing Radioactive Clothing next?
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PostSubject: Re: Rampart Range. Footage ,dialogue and stills.   Tue Feb 11, 2014 9:22 am

Your welcome JDM87 , yes , Radioactive Clothing is next. I will be starting the thread later on tonight.
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PostSubject: Re: Rampart Range. Footage ,dialogue and stills.   Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:08 am

Rik75, that would be awesome and thanks for your work!
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PostSubject: Re: Rampart Range. Footage ,dialogue and stills.   Sat Feb 15, 2014 7:36 am

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Rik75, that would be awesome and thanks for your work!
Thank you em81 , i really appreciate it  Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Rampart Range. Footage ,dialogue and stills.   Fri Mar 07, 2014 5:56 pm

rik75, awesome job and much appreciated. RR has long been my favorite videos for the reasons you mentioned. Seeing E&D fire their weapons, as well as getting to see them interact with each other without being "in character". There were a ton of things I had missed, and I intend to go watch the video now and see if I can catch them at normal speed.
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PostSubject: Re: Rampart Range. Footage ,dialogue and stills.   Sun Jun 22, 2014 1:15 pm

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                        (03:11) Jessica is ready to take a few shots with Marks rifle.
                                 She appears to be inexperienced with firearms.
                                         Mark gives her some advice :

MM : " Yeah wait , you really got to get into the bottom of this little trigger."

JM : " This finger ?"

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                                                    Jessica fires 2 rounds.
Marks gun is a ruger mini 30
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PostSubject: Re: Rampart Range. Footage ,dialogue and stills.   Mon Aug 25, 2014 5:24 pm

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(03:21) Eric starts messing around ,ducking quickly and raising his arms. He appears to be attempting to distract Jessica.

I am not sure what to make of it. Jessica is clearly inexperienced with firearms , and we see Eric messing around on purpose. Was Eric merely playing around for the camera ? Just goofing around ?



I find it quite a dangerous way to act , especially when an inexperienced shooter is being fooled around with.



I wonder what Eric was playing at ? Why attempt to distract Jessica ? Eric didn't fool around when others were shooting. Some inexperienced shooters would have turned around to face Eric , with the gun facing Eric too.
It makes me wonder ( even more ) about Eric and how his complex mind worked , especially concerning firearms and violence , and his own mortality.

He is not distracting her, he is catching shells. He even said that.
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PostSubject: Re: Rampart Range. Footage ,dialogue and stills.   Mon Apr 06, 2015 7:12 pm

Thank you so much for this!

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PostSubject: Re: Rampart Range. Footage ,dialogue and stills.   Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:45 pm

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Thank you so much for this!

Yep, I was about to say it was a Mini-14. Good eye!
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PostSubject: Re: Rampart Range. Footage ,dialogue and stills.   Sat Apr 18, 2015 9:00 pm

Hey, new guy here.

Great work with the dialog an stills. Lot's of great things pointed out that I never really put thought into. Ever since I've seen the full RR video, it's been one of the most interesting Columbine video to catch my attention. Mainly because it gives us an idea what it was like in the library that day which is very scary to imagine.
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PostSubject: Re: Rampart Range. Footage ,dialogue and stills.   Sun Aug 30, 2015 12:24 am

is it me or when they film the girl, Dylan says in a nervous voice "look at her with her muffs and everything" followed by a laugh by Eric. muffs being a slang word for the hearing protection she was wearing while firing the gun.
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PostSubject: Re: Rampart Range. Footage ,dialogue and stills.   Sun Mar 13, 2016 10:34 pm

rik75 - the gun mm is firing is an sks [cheap civilian ak-47] with a folding stock and scope. Typically shoots a 7.62 mm NATO round. There are other variations of the design that fire .223 bullets which is a typical rifle round. This is very similar to an AR15 carbine in design and customization. EITHER WAY, mm HAD THE MOST POWERFUL RIFLE AT THE TIME BETWEEN THE GROUP. I wonder if EH realizes this?
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PostSubject: Re: Rampart Range. Footage ,dialogue and stills.   Sat Mar 26, 2016 6:39 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Rampart Range. Footage ,dialogue and stills.   Thu Apr 20, 2017 7:37 pm

Thanks for doing this. Sometimes it's hard to tell who's saying what.
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