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PostSubject: Re: Brooks Brown's personal facebook page   Brooks Brown's personal facebook page - Page 3 Icon_minitimeTue Mar 26, 2013 7:52 pm

They should, yes, but I think nobody will bother if it doesn't get 'notorious' enough

the same blog somewhere redirects to the original posts made in February and the blogger got arrested for writing about shooting up an University and asking for reblogs to see if the authorities would have got him. If this happened I guess all this massive Brooks thing could get noticed by the authorities too

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Does anyone know, does Brooks really like dolls? Lol.
Apparently people asked him on tumblr, but all the questions related to dolls were ignored.. So they say.. Lol

LOL i'm hoping this isn't true because some of the comments on that page are making me LOL "he took his tacky glasses off to impress alice" haha

I was laughing at that too. He just looks like an idiot, IMO. Sounds like an even bigger idiot in this conversation. Regardless if this convo is fake. He took that picture for someone.

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Talking about how big his dick is with a complete stranger? Ew...

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I hope Brooks takes legal action against whoever posted this. Or gets his ass thrown in jail.
But I'm pretty sure it's fake. He pissed off the crazies.

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The whole idea of him entertaining the "want the hands that touched Dylan to touch me" thing...I'm just....I can't imagine that.
Who the fuck thinks like that? Ew.

Sounds like something a crazed fangirl would write, do not think it was him nor does this sound like him at all.
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^^Exactly

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I just don't think Brooks would do anything so stupid as this.
He works with computers for a living. He understands far better than the average person that what gets put out on the net is there to stay.
An understanding that might be not quite grasped by a 15 year old posting pics of homemade puzzles of suicide photos, or by kids photographing themselves in Natural Selection tshirts


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Pretty sure it's Brooks. He probably saw it now, so that explains him deleting Tumblr and Facebook? Plus the vocabulary used pretty much matches up with Brooks', judging by his (now former) Tumblr account.

If it does, it could be someone deliberately copying his mannerisms. A person obsessive enough can easily do that- just look at Sarah Palin in Game Changer. (and it's 1000X easier to do through writing!)
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This morphed into Brooks on Tumblr so fucking fast lolz

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Oh no, I do think it was Brooks' own tumblr. I just don't think the pedo convo was him. I think it was made up. By whom I don't know but I have to say it was quite convincing

What recent statements?
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I have no idea.
But I also have no problem believing there are people who are fucked up enough to do this.

Remember Brenda Parker and her "I want to sneak into the library where Eric and Dylan died and absorb their energy"?

Most people today STILL think she fucked him and had a lovey-dovey relationship, despite the 11K. A good lie can be accepted as truth.


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And twice as easy in a txt format where few sentences are actual full sentences and there are hardly ever two in a row.

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Lol, doubt a Columbine fangirl would make a fake Brooks Brown account and then on top of it all, generate like 40 pages of fake convo's.

THIS. That would be quite an undertaken - quite an elaborate conversation to create for teen girls. Someone with waaaaay too much time on their hands all to slander Brooks Brown.

Again, Brenda Parker. There've been a number of would-be shooters (documented by the nasty Trench Reynolds) who deluded themselves into thinking they knew E/D and are responsible for inspiring them.

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EW Brenda Parker

MnM I was referring to the Denver Post article from December that Randy Brown wrote decrying any sympathy for the Harrises or the Klebolds. I guess I can't call that recent. Sort of recent? My bad.
I guess researching a 14 year old massacre, a couple of months ago can seem recent lol

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Brenda Parker was such a NUT

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What happened between the Browns and the Klebolds?

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Brooks allowed people to subscribe to his personal facebook account (perhaps he still does). A friend of mine was subscribed to him a year and a half ago. It came up in my feed. I don't know what he discussed back then, but he very easily could have gotten into columbine discussions often. Also, he could have added LOTS of random people on his personal account before and during the time where he was letting people subscribe to him, as well. Just from there people could pick up details and his vernacular/syntax. He did that Reddit Q&A a few years ago, he uses twitter a lot....anyone could be mimicking him. And yes, there ARE people with that much time on their hands. It doesn't mean that he didn't do this, I am just saying that the likelihood of someone totally going to town and trying to have cyber sex/phone sex/get nudes/get porn from a minor pretending to be someone so close to the columbine situation is not as out of the question as it seems.
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Btw, does anyone know how to save youtube videos? I'd like to still be able to view all his stuff in case he deletes his yt account because he is pretty awesome and some of these videos look funny.
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I wonder if any of the other kids connected to the shooting get that kind of stuff. Like I wonder if Zach Heckler or Eric Jackson could get laid anytime they felt like it just because they were E&D's friend.
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What about his voice supposedly being on the video? How do you explain that?

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I dunno. I refuse to watch the video.

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It is a shame his wrist doesn't show in any of these photos/videos because we know about that one tattoo on his wrist..

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"1) The identity of the girl is blown up, Alice? Chloe?... 2) She's no angel either, there are posts of her talking about smoking crack, stealing, and other types of illegal and absurd activities. 3) Someone found the picture that is supposedly "Brooks Brown" as another sex offender who is NOT in fact Brooks. and 4) the girl kept asking for pictures and stuff. 5) He isn't a "rapist" he didn't have sex with her, if any of that is even true. Which ... seems very unlikely."
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What about his voice supposedly being on the video? How do you explain that?


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"1) The identity of the girl is blown up, Alice? Chloe?... 2) She's no angel either, there are posts of her talking about smoking crack, stealing, and other types of illegal and absurd activities. 3) Someone found the picture that is supposedly "Brooks Brown" as another sex offender who is NOT in fact Brooks. and 4) the girl kept asking for pictures and stuff. 5) He isn't a "rapist" he didn't have sex with her, if any of that is even true. Which ... seems very unlikely."

Like I said, how do you explain his supposed voice in the video?

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What about his voice supposedly being on the video? How do you explain that?


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Don't you think that if it WASN'T him, he'd be doing anything he could to clear it up that it wasn't him, not running off and avoiding all questions?

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When thinking about a fake convo I've always thought about the girl faking it all to put him under a bad light (what if she is Brenda herself lol) but it's true she could have been tricked by someone faking to be Brooks aswell.. I guess we'll never know by ourselves..
But why does this go viral now that he was active on tumblr and not back in Feb when it was first posted? By this point of view it seems like just a way of having him off the site (perhaps revenge from someone who did't get the answer s/he wanted? It could fit either if it's all true or an act) They talked about "showing how he really is despite the good idea we got of him", it's a bit the same he did with E&D when people were asking about them.
Tumblr and Fb page got deleted after this happened but it doesn't necessarily show that it's all true, he just got away by the obsessed fangirls and kept the private profile and twitter where there's known people.
Now that blog owner claimed to delete it 1h ago yet it's still there and going on bitching.

Need some sleep, will she how the drama developed in the morning

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I think if he did that it would give some sick twisted girls more attention and he shouldn't give them that.

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What about his voice supposedly being on the video? How do you explain that?


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Don't you think that if it WASN'T him, he'd be doing anything he could to clear it up that it wasn't him, not running off and avoiding all questions?


Sometimes, when people wind up smack in the middle of crazy, they just want to get the HELL out of the way.


I studied Kobe's case and I know he never raped the girl... however, in the civil case he chose to pay her off rather than be subjected to taped interviews of him answering very personal questions from a money-grubbing attorney or more trial bullshit.

I think Kobe did wrong in this- but I can understand why he did it. (plus a few million to him is really nothing but a minor annoyance)

Internet feuds are different. Sometimes putting yourself in the middle of crazy will set off others more, and he probably just wants to ignore it and put it behind him/have it forgotten.
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What about his voice supposedly being on the video? How do you explain that?


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Don't you think that if it WASN'T him, he'd be doing anything he could to clear it up that it wasn't him, not running off and avoiding all questions?


Sometimes, when people wind up smack in the middle of crazy, they just want to get the HELL out of the way.


I studied Kobe's case and I know he never raped the girl... however, in the civil case he chose to pay her off rather than be subjected to taped interviews of him answering very personal questions from a money-grubbing attorney or more trial bullshit.

I think Kobe did wrong in this- but I can understand why he did it. (plus a few million to him is really nothing but a minor annoyance)

Internet feuds are different. Sometimes putting yourself in the middle of crazy will set off others more, and he probably just wants to ignore it and put it behind him/have it
forgotten.

That's possible, of course, but I think there are a lot of coincidences to just not even consider that it is true.

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He might be feel alright with his coscience, ignoring it all and leaving it all behind as going on with it would fuel the drama

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Brooks is good people and I've known and followed him a long time. I really don't think it's him at all and again, he's had experience before with crazy Columbiners. (Brenda being their Queen, lol!)
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Btw, does anyone know how to save youtube videos? I'd like to still be able to view all his stuff in case he deletes his yt account because he is pretty awesome and some of these videos look funny.

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I have never had any problems with this service, and I only use the free version. I have been using it since 2009. One thing is, sometimes the files you download will automatically save themselves to the FLV format, so if you don't like using FLV player, or just want them in another format, you'll have to convert them to whatever format you'd prefer. You can convert them right through the youtube downloader itself.
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more cockpics to more underaged girls.
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I wonder if it's real. I seriously hope not for his sake. I can't help but think if it isn't, there are some demented people in this world.

It's kind of a lose/lose deal.

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I saw one comment last night 'you get what you deserve..pedo' when he tweeted about a revolving door closing on him.

This morning he posted a comment "sadness begets sadness and anger begets anger'.

Two hours later and he's locked his Twitter.

He's officially on LOCK DOWN with every social network. I wonder if his dad (who follows him closely on Facebook) or bro is asking him what is going on. ack!
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I do think he was set up and I feel really bad for him.

He's done a lot of good talking about the bullying that went on at Columbine and I'm sure a lot of people opposed to him will use that to destroy his ideas and work.

Whoever made that fucking blog seems to be taking a lot of glee in trying to wreck his life. Evil or Very Mad
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I do think he was set up and I feel really bad for him.

He's done a lot of good talking about the bullying that went on at Columbine and I'm sure a lot of people opposed to him will use that to destroy his ideas and work.

Whoever made that fucking blog seems to be taking a lot of glee in trying to wreck his life. Evil or Very Mad

I agree as I mentioned in a previous post he has contributed a great deal to Columbine research over the years regardless of if anyone believes what he says or not and so have his family. I wasn't sure what to make of the whole Tumblr drama at first but I do believe he's been set up, it's getting so out of hand and random people are posting screen shots of their "private conversations" with Brooks Rolling Eyes and harassing him on his personal online pages. Someone with alot of time on their hands has thought this was a great way to harm Brooks. It wouldn't surprise me if it's another obsessed 'Mrs Reb' who feels like they are "doing it for Eric." Very little fails to shock me now when it comes to Columbine anymore unfortunately. I hope Brooks is taking some kind of action against whoever originally posted all this stuff.
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Show your love and support for a great man and hit him up on youtube ya'll! He needs good advice and support in his time of need. Smile
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"Lol where has her age been proven.. also who am i going to report it to ? there are 10000s of victims with heart wrenching cases way more important than a girl “manipulating” a pedophile and “posting his nudes without his consent” online. only like 3% of rapists spend a day in jail. cyber crimes are also incredibly hard to process and it would be a super messy expensive trial since alice lives in another fucking country. they’re not gonna spend half a million extraditing someone unless it’s for a serious thing like murder. it has been reported and nothing came of it so obviously the next best thing to do is warn his future victims? keep defending a pedophile and blaming alice rofl"

How very fucking convenient. Rolling Eyes
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"Warn his future victims"
Yes by bitching on a blog.

Who does she think she is? Sailor Moon the paladin of justice?

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"maybe in a couple weeks idk( on deleting the blog)"

Which means the blogger will keep posting until he/she gets bored. scratch
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An eye bleach topic for the men. (though I know all you ladies must be happy, lol!)
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more cockpics to more underaged girls.
I choose a bad time to start following the tag Evil or Very Mad

LOL i really shouldn't laugh but people are posting various different images that have apparently been sent to other girls and encouraging other Tumblr users to compare them to the original picture as they clearly all belong to the same person Rolling Eyes I'm not even looking anymore lol
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There's actually a surmisable amount of evidence that suggests this is real.

1. The shirt in the video matches the shirt in his picture he sent her. (What are the chances of that?)
2. The voice in the video is similar.
3. His mannerisms are similar to what we know of him.
4. Has intricate knowledge of E&D which sounds legitimate.
5. He's locked down all social media.


If this was a fake, it was a very elaborate one. To generate that kind of material would take nothing less than a stalker with hours of research.

Also, the facebook pictures seem completely legitimate.
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"If this was a fake, it was a very elaborate one. To generate that kind of material would take nothing less than a stalker with hours of research."

It is still possible it is not him. Greater hoaxes have been perpetrated throughout history as Brenda Parker could explain.
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MarmaladeSkies wrote:
There's actually a surmisable amount of evidence that suggests this is real.

1. The shirt in the video matches the shirt in his picture he sent her. (What are the chances of that?)
2. The voice in the video is similar.
3. His mannerisms are similar to what we know of him.
4. Has intricate knowledge of E&D which sounds legitimate.
5. He's locked down all social media.


If this was a fake, it was a very elaborate one. To generate that kind of material would take nothing less than a stalker with hours of research.

Also, the facebook pictures seem completely legitimate.


I agree somewhat. However, the shirt is not the same. It's similiar but not the same thing. If the shirt was a match, it'd be a slam dunk because those styles of shirts are unique looking. It's possible, however, that he wears a lot of unique shirts - one in the vid and one in the photo. Cool

The E & D stuff isn't really that intricate. I think anyone could make up that stuff having read his book and other Columbine books. Stuff like 'snowflake' - though, damn, that's cute if true. Otoh, disgusting all the same because it would mean it really is Brooks. eh.. How the boys acted drunk is pretty easy for anyone to surmise based on the information we already know about there personalities. Now, if we had someone that got inside CHS and scraped the paint off the sound room wall to reveal any graffiti that would be better verifiable proof. Oh, no, I am not suggesting that anyone do that in the least. Twisted Evil

Everything else you mention - yes. He has a very distinctive voice and the video for me, kinda hit a nail in the coffin. The abrupt lock down on social media is interesting..but then again, I think to save his public persona and high profile career associated with Cameron, of course he'd do that regardless of it being him or not. Damage control. I am surprised he left his Twitter open for a while and then suddenly realized 'it' was following him everywhere. Ironically, it's definitely become cyber bullying and if it's not really him, it's also slander.

It's a major lose/lose for Brooks Brown whether it's him or not. This type of internet witch hunt could really push him into isolation. People have always looked to him for being so open and honest. It's disturbing and "sad" (to quote Brooks) whether it's truly him or not. No
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I said it before but he should speak out.

If he hides out like John Kerry did from the Swiftboaters then people will react to him like he's John Kerry, "oh he has something to hide so he must have done it."


In the worst-case scenario, whether true or not, if this drives him to isolation then he should move to Europe. A lot of places there have lower age consents (thanks for teaching me that Jersey Shore and people there wouldn't be as anxious to witch-hunt him like they are in America.
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MnM wrote:
I said it before but he should speak out.

If he hides out like John Kerry did from the Swiftboaters then people will react to him like he's John Kerry, "oh he has something to hide so he must have done it."


In the worst-case scenario, whether true or not, if this drives him to isolation then he should move to Europe. A lot of places there have lower age consents (thanks for teaching me that Jersey Shore and people there wouldn't be as anxious to witch-hunt him like they are in America.

True. Though, it's a delicate situation. If he speaks out he'll draw attention to it. People will actively search the web and look for what transpired. He just got his new career in SoCal. A bit risky.

LOL Well, he did allude he was planning to move out of the country anyway. Hong Kong I believe. Americans can be the worst witch hunters. Guess it's the puritanical roots.
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