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PostSubject: I wish...   Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:08 pm

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PostSubject: Re: I wish...   Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:10 pm

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PostSubject: Re: I wish...   Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:40 pm

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PostSubject: Re: I wish...   Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:42 pm

what the hell???, these fangirls just make me laugh so much
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PostSubject: Re: I wish...   Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:16 pm

Sad...

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PostSubject: Re: I wish...   Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:57 pm

Cant see much wrong with that.
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PostSubject: Re: I wish...   Fri Jan 24, 2014 7:21 pm

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Sad...

This was my initial thought too
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PostSubject: Re: I wish...   Fri Jan 24, 2014 7:55 pm

At first, I was thinking it was a quote from the book Far From the Tree until I read it completely. This is why I don't visit tumblr often.
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PostSubject: Re: I wish...   Fri Jan 24, 2014 7:58 pm

Yes. Very Sad. And the fangirls that think this wouldn't even give the fucking time of day to the Erics and Dylans at their own schools who are alive and need and want the love and attention. E/D are dead and gone for 15 Frickin years, girls, pay some attention to the live boys who are like Eric and Dylan and could benefit from the adoration.
I will now get off my soapbox. Thank you.
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PostSubject: Re: I wish...   Sat Jan 25, 2014 9:18 am

Dylan would not have wanted to "cuddle, hug and kiss" you. Dylan would have shot you in the head along with everyone else. I know a lot of the fans say "Oh, he wouldn't have shot me". Yes, he would have. They didn't care if their own friends got blown up that day. It is a shame that these fans cannot grasp that concept; they wanted to destroy the whole school and everyone in it.

Sure, there were probably a few people they didn't want to intentionally kill, but if they became collateral damage, that didn't matter to them. The way Dylan talks in his journal, it is almost as if he hoped to kill his true love so that they could live together in bliss in the afterlife.

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PostSubject: Re: I wish...   Sat Jan 25, 2014 9:48 am

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Dylan would not have wanted to "cuddle, hug and kiss" you. Dylan would have shot you in the head along with everyone else. I know a lot of the fans say "Oh, he wouldn't have shot me". Yes, he would have. They didn't care if their own friends got blown up that day. It is a shame that these fans cannot grasp that concept; they wanted to destroy the whole school and everyone in it.

Sure, there were probably a few people they didn't want to intentionally kill, but if they became collateral damage, that didn't matter to them. The way Dylan talks in his journal, it is almost as if he hoped to kill his true love so that they could live together in bliss in the afterlife.



The problem with these girls is that they think Dylan was so romantic and sweet for the things he wrote in his journal, and no, as you said, he would shot them all in the head. These girls kind of forget what he did with Eric their last day and when they do, they talk about the bullying problem and even say that all the 13 victims bullied them. They see Eric and specially Dylan like charm princes with trench coats, they totally forget most of the time that in the end they are killers. And ThoughtBox made a good point, they should pay attention to the guys close to them that could be like Eric and Dylan but I bet that in the school they ignore them and even make fun of them
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PostSubject: Re: I wish...   Sat Jan 25, 2014 9:48 am

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Dylan would not have wanted to "cuddle, hug and kiss" you. Dylan would have shot you in the head along with everyone else. I know a lot of the fans say "Oh, he wouldn't have shot me". Yes, he would have. They didn't care if their own friends got blown up that day. It is a shame that these fans cannot grasp that concept; they wanted to destroy the whole school and everyone in it.


If they would have met him at the day of the shooting, yes. But otherwise, I think its obvious that Dylan had a strong need for intimacy.

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PostSubject: Re: I wish...   Sat Jan 25, 2014 11:41 am

I've read somewhere something like this: "Girls want a bad boy who would be good with them, boys want a good girl who would be bad with them". Huge generalization, but seems to be applicable here, at least the first part
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PostSubject: Re: I wish...   Sat Jan 25, 2014 12:15 pm

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Dylan would not have wanted to "cuddle, hug and kiss" you. Dylan would have shot you in the head along with everyone else. I know a lot of the fans say "Oh, he wouldn't have shot me". Yes, he would have. They didn't care if their own friends got blown up that day. It is a shame that these fans cannot grasp that concept; they wanted to destroy the whole school and everyone in it.


If they would have met him at the day of the shooting, yes. But otherwise, I think its obvious that Dylan had a strong need for intimacy.



Agreed. I do think prior to 4/20, Dylan greatly longed for any sign of intimacy and connection but on the day of NBK, he threw everything away including any hope for that.  His rationale at that point was that intimacy, unconditional love and happiness would be found and attained after death in the next existence. The thing to keep in mind is that Dylan (and Eric) had attained a warlike mindset when it came to 4/20.  They agreed that in attacking the virus that was the school and ridding it of the filth that infected it (the rampant stereotypes they had come to hate), that some friends would obviously be there, which couldn't be avoided or helped, and so these unfortunate friends would simply become collateral damage in the grand scheme of their nefarious war plan.  It's a sick way of looking at it but realistically there would be no other way to plot revenge on a massive school with a huge population and random friends coming and going during their planned rampage timeframe.  

If they came upon friends, which Dylan did in the case of John Savage and Tim Castle, it was up to them - Dylan and Eric -  whether they showed mercy. Essentially, their concept of 'Godlike' fit  as to whether they felt like sparing or killing a given individual on whim.    John and Tim both report in the 11k that Dylan spared them and it came across to them that Dylan made a reasoned choice in refraining from killing them.  Dylan was reported to have said when he discovered John in the Library "we like know you, we like you, you're cool".  (It was also reported by someone that Eric argued with Dylan over sparing John).  And with Tim, both ended up staring at one another from a distance in the ceiling compartments within the cafeteria.  How odd as the night before they spoke via phone and discussed Fantasy baseball strategies.  When Dylan realised it was his friend Tim, he refrained from pointing his weapon.  Tim mentioned that he was sure Dylan had recognized him and let him go.  Where Dylan allowed himself to be merciless and cold and shot callously was with people he didn't genuinely know and so it was easier as it didn't matter much not having a personal connection.   I believe in these instances, and there would be a considerable amount of those 'unknowns' in a school of 2,000, Dylan was capable of killing males and females on that day without hesitation.  In the library, he stuck his weapon under the table blind and shot randomly.  Dylan and Vanessa Grimes made eye contact in the cafeteria, be he didn't do anything.  They were TCM friends.  However, if Dylan came across girl/s he didn't know, watch out, as there would be a good chance that he would see you as fair game and you'd be just another zombie in the Doom game.  If said girl was especially pretty and looked like a Jock trophy girl friend complete with designer brand clothing, watch the hell out!  ;)
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PostSubject: Re: I wish...   Sat Jan 25, 2014 12:26 pm

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And the fangirls that think this wouldn't even give the fucking time of day to the Erics and Dylans at their own schools who are alive and need and want the love and attention. E/D are dead and gone for 15 Frickin years, girls, pay some attention to the live boys who are like Eric and Dylan and could benefit from the adoration.

That's the great irony isn't it?
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PostSubject: Re: I wish...   Sat Jan 25, 2014 12:31 pm

@maninthebox wrote:
I've read somewhere something like this: "Girls want a bad boy who would be good with them, boys want a good girl who would be bad with them". Huge generalization, but seems to be applicable here, at least the first part

That's a really good way of putting it.
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PostSubject: Re: I wish...   Sat Jan 25, 2014 12:33 pm

@Jenn wrote:
Dylan would not have wanted to "cuddle, hug and kiss" you. Dylan would have shot you in the head along with everyone else. I know a lot of the fans say "Oh, he wouldn't have shot me". Yes, he would have. They didn't care if their own friends got blown up that day. It is a shame that these fans cannot grasp that concept; they wanted to destroy the whole school and everyone in it.

Sure, there were probably a few people they didn't want to intentionally kill, but if they became collateral damage, that didn't matter to them. The way Dylan talks in his journal, it is almost as if he hoped to kill his true love so that they could live together in bliss in the afterlife.

Even in their "farewell" message they tell their friends they can have their computer stuff "if they survive."
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PostSubject: Re: I wish...   Sat Jan 25, 2014 12:35 pm

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 And with Tim, both ended up staring at one another from a distance in the ceiling compartments within the cafeteria.  How odd as the night before they spoke via phone and discussed Fantasy baseball strategies.  When Dylan realised it was his friend Tim, he refrained from pointing his weapon.  Tim mentioned that he was sure Dylan had recognized him and let him go.

That's a great and lesser known incident during the shooting. Thanks for pointing it out.
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PostSubject: Re: I wish...   Sat Jan 25, 2014 1:15 pm

These girls love the fantasy, not the person. They create a person in their head and attach a name/face to that.
Nothing to do with reality.
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PostSubject: Re: I wish...   Sat Jan 25, 2014 3:51 pm

I've seen things far worse than that online.

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PostSubject: Re: I wish...   Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:55 pm

Who says a girl posted this pic. Personally, I think it was Cullen. :p
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PostSubject: Re: I wish...   Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:05 pm

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Who says a girl posted this pic. Personally, I think it was Cullen.  :p

Good one!

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PostSubject: Re: I wish...   Sat Jan 25, 2014 10:37 pm

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Dylan would not have wanted to "cuddle, hug and kiss" you. Dylan would have shot you in the head along with everyone else. I know a lot of the fans say "Oh, he wouldn't have shot me". Yes, he would have. They didn't care if their own friends got blown up that day. It is a shame that these fans cannot grasp that concept; they wanted to destroy the whole school and everyone in it.

Sure, there were probably a few people they didn't want to intentionally kill, but if they became collateral damage, that didn't matter to them. The way Dylan talks in his journal, it is almost as if he hoped to kill his true love so that they could live together in bliss in the afterlife.

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The problem with these girls is that they think Dylan was so romantic and sweet for the things he wrote in his journal, and no, as you said, he would shot them all in the head. These girls kind of forget what he did with Eric their last day and when they do, they talk about the bullying problem and even say that all the 13 victims bullied them. They see Eric and specially Dylan like charm princes with trench coats, they totally forget most of the time that in the end they are killers. And ThoughtBox made a good point, they should pay attention to the guys close to them that could be like Eric and Dylan but I bet that in the school they ignore them and even make fun of them

Both of you, hallelujah. Amen. cheers

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Even in their "farewell" message they tell their friends they can have their computer stuff "if they survive."

Exactly.

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I've seen things far worse than that online.

So have I. But regarding this subject, while many of the delusional columbine fanatics who just coo over caricaturized versions of Eric and Dylan are concentrated to tumblr, and don't venture much further, there are some (who are not teenagers, I must mention) who have no qualms whatsoever when it comes to stalking people connected to the tragedy, be it families of the killers, victims' families, or survivors, including females Eric and Dylan were connected to and/or romantically interested in, and plastering their findings all over tumblr, which is an entirely public platform. (And this particular ilk will have an aneurysm if ANYONE posts anything of a private nature about them. Hypocrites of the highest order.)

To clarify, let me make note of this right now: using information from the 11K along with yearbook photos (and/or videos from news reports where these people willingly showed their faces and shared information) is NOT the same as scouring social media to find present day information. That is beyond disrespectful, and there really is no excuse for it. A lot of these people don't think that they have to tighten security settings on their accounts because they really have nothing to do with what happened; they were innocent bystanders. But, if they ever google their names, they will probably be quite horrified to see what has been snatched from them and posted. Some people have even touched upon this, like Devon Adams. Bottom line: everyone affiliated with this tragedy are not Brooks Brown. He wants to (or wanted to) share all sorts of information across the internet. That's his decision, and it doesn't mean everyone else is up for such invasive behavior, nor do they deserve it.

One may argue that the families of the killers don't deserve privacy, or that due to the quest for answers, the media invasion on their privacy trumps fangirls' behavior and may have in fact encouraged it. I wouldn't agree with that personally, but to be fair I will say it is up for debate.

However, there is NO excuse as to why anyone thinks they have the right to probe into the private lives of the less vocal friends and the females these two boys hung out with, had crushes on, went on dates with, or worked with. Imagine being the vague or somewhat close associate of someone who did something of this caliber, and having all of your present day private information broadcast across lightning fast, essentially unstoppable, entirely public media by groupies. It wouldn't be much fun, and if I were in the shoes of those being stalked, I would probably be in prison for attempted murder.  

It's ironically hilarious that the people who behave this way tell their detractors to "get a life" and to "mind their own business", when their actions irrefutably illustrate that they don't have much of a life and don't have a remote inkling of a clue as to how to mind their own business themselves.


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These girls love the fantasy, not the person. They create a person in their head and attach a name/face to that.
Nothing to do with reality.

That is exactly what it is for 99% of them. It's fine if they choose to create their own fantasy, but that's what it is: a fantasy. Many of them LOVE arguing that they KNOW they are right when their views are not remotely based in reality.

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Who says a girl posted this pic. Personally, I think it was Cullen.  :p

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PostSubject: Re: I wish...   Sat Jan 25, 2014 11:34 pm

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PostSubject: Re: I wish...   Sun Jan 26, 2014 12:24 am

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Righhhhhhht.This is like made in base of an obssesion, I usually find on Yahoo Answers this kind of things: "Same here!! its crazy, its been going on for months. I'm overly obsessed with Dylan. I feel like I love him so much for some reason. I don't know.. if it drags on for years, and interferes with your social life, go to a therapist. Other than that, for me, and probably for you, its a phase and a guilty pleasure. If it makes you happy, go for it! I agree with Regina a lot. I also feel like Dylan was the only one who could/would of understood me.. I also have him as my phone background. Also, the fact that you want a boyfriend who is like Eric or Dylan, I'm also that way -- constantly looking at guys like Dylan. It totally gave me an in-sight as to what guys to go for. Good luck". And then stuff like this happened a few years ago: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] These girls see on Dylan and also Eric, two guys that can understand them because usually they have the same problems that they used to have, but tfsa47090 made a good point, they are not only following the case or are just in love with them, they then start to stalk people connecting to the case and thats more serious. They just go out of control and thats the result of things like this image or things like the case from New York. The same happen with the guys that are obsessed with the case and do the same that them but they are not in love with them and most of the time they dont harass people
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PostSubject: Re: I wish...   Sun Jan 26, 2014 12:43 am

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Yes. Very Sad. And the fangirls that think this wouldn't even give the fucking time of day to the Erics and Dylans at their own schools who are alive and need and want the love and attention. E/D are dead and gone for 15 Frickin years, girls, pay some attention to the live boys who are like Eric and Dylan and could benefit from the adoration.
I will now get off my soapbox. Thank you.

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PostSubject: Re: I wish...   Sun Jan 26, 2014 2:33 am

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Righhhhhhht.This is like made in base of an obssesion, I usually find on Yahoo Answers this kind of things: "Same here!! its crazy, its been going on for months. I'm overly obsessed with Dylan. I feel like I love him so much for some reason. I don't know.. if it drags on for years, and interferes with your social life, go to a therapist. Other than that, for me, and probably for you, its a phase and a guilty pleasure. If it makes you happy, go for it! I agree with Regina a lot. I also feel like Dylan was the only one who could/would of understood me.. I also have him as my phone background. Also, the fact that you want a boyfriend who is like Eric or Dylan, I'm also that way -- constantly looking at guys like Dylan. It totally gave me an in-sight as to what guys to go for. Good luck". And then stuff like this happened a few years ago: http://nypost.com/2010/10/22/columbine-obsessed-ny-schoolgirls-draw-up-hit-list-of-90-fellow-students/. These girls see on Dylan and also Eric, two guys that can understand them because usually they have the same problems that they used to have, but tfsa47090 made a good point, they are not only following the case or are just in love with them, they then start to stalk people connecting to the case and thats more serious. They just go out of control and thats the result of things like this image or things like the case from New York. The same happen with the guys that are obsessed with the case and do the same that them but they are not in love with them and most of the time they dont harass people

You do know that I was being sarcastic when I posted this? I am not a fan, in fact I don't like or care for fans. That is why I posted that because I find it funny that someone even made it.
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PostSubject: Re: I wish...   Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:36 am

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Righhhhhhht.This is like made in base of an obssesion, I usually find on Yahoo Answers this kind of things: "Same here!! its crazy, its been going on for months. I'm overly obsessed with Dylan. I feel like I love him so much for some reason. I don't know.. if it drags on for years, and interferes with your social life, go to a therapist. Other than that, for me, and probably for you, its a phase and a guilty pleasure. If it makes you happy, go for it! I agree with Regina a lot. I also feel like Dylan was the only one who could/would of understood me.. I also have him as my phone background. Also, the fact that you want a boyfriend who is like Eric or Dylan, I'm also that way -- constantly looking at guys like Dylan. It totally gave me an in-sight as to what guys to go for. Good luck". And then stuff like this happened a few years ago: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] These girls see on Dylan and also Eric, two guys that can understand them because usually they have the same problems that they used to have, but tfsa47090 made a good point, they are not only following the case or are just in love with them, they then start to stalk people connecting to the case and thats more serious. They just go out of control and thats the result of things like this image or things like the case from New York. The same happen with the guys that are obsessed with the case and do the same that them but they are not in love with them and most of the time they dont harass people

You do know that I was being sarcastic when I posted this? I am not a fan, in fact I don't like or care for fans. That is why I posted that because I find it funny that someone even made it.

I know you posted for that reason, I was just saying why these girls (the ones made those kind of images) do that and are so obsessed with them
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PostSubject: Re: I wish...   Sun Jan 26, 2014 11:46 am

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Yes. Very Sad. And the fangirls that think this wouldn't even give the fucking time of day to the Erics and Dylans at their own schools who are alive and need and want the love and attention. E/D are dead and gone for 15 Frickin years, girls, pay some attention to the live boys who are like Eric and Dylan and could benefit from the adoration.
I will now get off my soapbox. Thank you.

Yes! Very well said!

Thanks! I could write a whole lot more about this subject, and my seemingly unhealthy anger towards these types of people, but that would be giving them MUCH more attention and space then they ultimately deserve, especially in this forum where there are many thoughtful, intelligent, compassionate, and articulate members.
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PostSubject: Re: I wish...   Mon Jan 27, 2014 8:01 am

If they're so obsessed and determined to ''save'' Eric and Dylan, then why not start a ''Save the Dorks who Want to Blow up their Schools and All the People in It'' movement and date those guys at their own schools?

All the bullied kids
The depressed loners
The pimpled-face rotund guys
The computer nerds
The scrawny little racists
The socially awkward bookish boys

Not tragic and romantic enough, perhaps.

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