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PostSubject: Re: Sandy Hook Fake?   Tue Sep 01, 2015 5:46 am

The event is cloaked in mystery, and people fear what they cannot understand. Simple.

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PostSubject: Re: Sandy Hook Fake?   Tue Sep 01, 2015 11:54 am

I have never been much on conspiracy theories, tending to believe the more or less official account. Even conspiracies that proved to be true tend to feel different than what I think of -- more like mis or disinformation.

For whatever reason, Sandy Hook is one that I at least can see some of the arguments in favor of hoax/conspiracy. Absolutely part of that is I don't want to believe it. I have six kids and can't imagine anything like that happening.

There is something to some of the evidence or lack thereof that does lend some plausibility to some hoax arguments.

I can remember the day it happened, because I was at home that day and may sure I went with my wife to get our kids.
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PostSubject: Re: Sandy Hook Fake?   Tue Sep 01, 2015 1:09 pm

the more I read into this, the more it just doesn't add up.. I am not a believer of most crazy conspiracies but the whole situation with this one stinks. the only way would be if someone was to 'stalk' (not contact or interfere, just research) one of the victim's nuclear families on a social media site, and then the rest of the family of that person to see if these were families are real and these kids were part of their life before that happened and if they are still making posts of grieving, because I highly doubt anyone would take the time to sit and make fake profiles for the 1000s of family members who these children were connected with.
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PostSubject: Re: Sandy Hook Fake?   Tue Sep 01, 2015 1:35 pm

CharlesWhitman...those are my thoughts as well. Maybe the sources I have seen paint only one side of the event, but where are all of those affected even indirectly? I am not saying they do not exist; I just am not seeing it.

I don't need to see dead bodies as confirmation, but it is all so strange. I get that we all grieve differently, but these parents all express it so similarly. I watched a documentary on a school shooting in Arkansas. These girls were all very similar, involved in some prayer circle before school... Post event, one still cannot forgive and could be heard yelling at the shooter....I just don't see these rage filled parents...there has to be some.

Photoshop crazy moms; images to kids that were not even their attributed to the victims; where is the mass of student evacuations?

Again, I daresay I want it to be a hoax and those kids still alive. With Columbine I think of why and how....with Sandy Hook a lot more Huh?
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PostSubject: Re: Sandy Hook Fake?   Mon Sep 07, 2015 5:54 pm

There are some good videos on utube that are sandy hook related--one of the strangest was by....hollywoodpastels, maybe? anyway it was a tour through the lanza home. very weird--it really DID look like a hastily arranged "set". just odd.

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PostSubject: Re: Sandy Hook Fake?   Thu Sep 24, 2015 10:57 am

Of all the 'false flag/hoax' conspiracies, this one seems to be the most likely to me. Not much was ever released on Adam Lanza, and no video of photos from the massacre are widely available. Now you might say this is because they don't want to glorify a child murderer or whatever, but videos from the Columbine security cameras where released, and the school definitely had security cameras: they had just installed new ones shortly before the attack. Furthermore, more of the parents of victims worked in the entertainment industry than any other shooting. Since more of them where actors then would be normal, I can see how someone would come to the conclusion that it's probably a hoax, or false flag attack, or whatever.
I'm not saying it is a hoax, I'm just saying there are unanswered questions that need to be addressed, I wouldn't be all that surprised if it was one.

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PostSubject: Re: Sandy Hook Fake?   Thu Sep 24, 2015 2:04 pm

Lanza's house was a total mess pretty much because his life was a total mess. At leats that part doesn't sound weird to me at all.

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PostSubject: Re: Sandy Hook Fake?   Sat Oct 03, 2015 2:42 am

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Sandy Hook was real. The deaths were real. Adam's suffering was real.

People need to get their heads out of all the american brainwashing machine.


I doa agree however taht after this very real massacre, people of all sorts are trying to use it to forward their own petty political and social agendas - gun laws, anti-psychiatric movement, moves for wider public mental health etc.

Some may be right, but fact is - they are abusing the tragedy for their own end. Surfing on the wave of tombstones.

I've done a lot of research on Sandy Hook and I just can't believe its a "typical" shooting. There's just too many weird things and inconsistencies. I don't believe it was done with nefarious intent though. More like a crisis drill that went live on accident. At the same time im sure we can both agree governments all over the world have done horrible things that make little sense. Its really not THAT big of a stretch to think they could pull something like that off. I will say that it disgusts me how all the "truthers" have branched out and began calling all shootings False Flags. Its gotten to the point were seeing something as a government psy-op is a badge of intelligence. It really is a form of self imposed reverse brainwashing.
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PostSubject: Re: Sandy Hook Fake?   Sat Oct 03, 2015 3:31 pm

As some may know - me and the silkrat group have been directly responible for finding, identifying and making public some of Lanza's online activity and we did it this year.

So I don't believe there was any coverup or conspiracy, as for that to be true I would need to have been a part of that conspiracy myself.


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PostSubject: Re: Sandy Hook Fake?   Sun Oct 04, 2015 3:05 am

Fair enough. Online postings still don't explain away the fact that no hospitals received victims. Or that people were circling in and out of the station trying to appear as if the crowd was bigger. Or a father laughing and joking shortly after his daughters death. Or two parents smiling happily just days after their child's death. Or a sign saying "all personal must have I'd badges". Or the guy constantly changing his story about what happened when he found the kids in his yard. Or the coroner making really distasteful jokes and saying odd things, as if he wasnt taking it serious. And the gun found in the trunk that was supposedly on Lanza and used to get in the school.

I know it sounds crazy and I want to stress I'm not saying it was a conspiracy. However there's plenty of evidence that it was a drill that got taken live on accident and they chose to roll with it. The fact that Adam Lanza posted online (I've read most of them if not all) is very strange because it does imply fact. Still there are plenty of other things that are very weird and hard to explain away. I won't try to change anyone's mind though, and they won't change mine. I think the possibility that Sandy Hook wasnt real is an important topic though. Its the only shooting I've read about that does have evidence it didnt happen.
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PostSubject: Re: Sandy Hook Fake?   Sun Oct 04, 2015 8:52 am

As far as I know, the no hospital victims thing was debunked, but its best you ask Reed Coleman about it, he's the expert on these matters.

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Or two parents smiling happily just days after their child's death.
That part itself is not really surprising, can vouch as a shrinks student. People behave in all sorts of weird ways after a traumatic loss, often very differently from one another.

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Or the coroner making really distasteful jokes and saying odd things, as if he wasnt taking it serious.
Sucks to be him then, but that doesn't make it a conspiracy. If anything, it makes it all the less probable that its a conspiracy.

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And the gun found in the trunk that was supposedly on Lanza and used to get in the school.

Oh yeah we had discussions about that gun. I think I started that thread here on the forums. He took with him 2 handguns and the M16 semiauto copy, but left the Saiga. I was always wondering why he left the Saiga, as it is a very decent weapon, especially in close quarters. I think he schose the semiauto rifle because it had a larger mag capacity (he was obviously afraid of being jumped) and possibly because the Saiga is heavy and he was a thin, frail dude.


I really think there's nothing all taht strange about the spree killing, escept the shooter himself. And he was strange because by all evidence he was very mentally ill.

I just have a hard time to believe someone would fabricate a youtube profile with a huge amount of comments made mostly to random stuff or underground student films like ours, then not bbring it up. If you fabricate stuff like this, you leak it to the media.

You do not leave it there for some random peeps in Poland who years later may or may not put the puzzle togeather. One thing I'm sure of -Lanza was real, he existed, he mad ethe posts and comments, and forum stuff.

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PostSubject: Re: Sandy Hook Fake?   Sat Dec 26, 2015 11:01 pm

I don't believe for a second that this tragedy was "fake". I do however, think that stupid remarks by the medical examiner , etc lent credibility to the theorists.

The only thing I find extremely unbelievable is that the parents had to view pictures to identify their dead children.


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PostSubject: Re: Sandy Hook Fake?   Sat Dec 26, 2015 11:15 pm

It is always very sad when children get killed

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PostSubject: Re: Sandy Hook Fake?   Sat Jan 02, 2016 8:56 am

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You want a great argument that Adam Lanza was real?


Years after the massacre SILKRAt has uncovered and with the help of Reed Coleman obtained proof that Adam had a youtube account and stuff he posted tehre add up.

The youtube account? Nobody knew about it before. The government did not know, it did not make it public. If it hadn't been for me and another SILKRAT member, nobody would ever know that the youtube user "fuckcomments" was Adam Lanza.

If it is all a conspiracy and all the youtube comments (including ones posted to my own movie) were planted by FBI agents before the shooting, then it would makes sense that the police should then "uncover" said fuckcomments account and it should be somehow used to forward the governments agenda.

But that's not what happened. You don't mke big covert operation planting a fake user on youtube just to let it lie never uncovered, until some entirely random polish person decides to give a fuck.

The user account fuckcomments remained unknown and would still remain so if it wasn't for me and SILKRAT. We gave the info to Coleman, he made it public. Like it or not, I  myself am directly a key source of information about Adam Lanza.



So, if you think Adam Lanza and SH was fake, then you must logically now conclude that I myself am an agent of the US government and was planted here on the old forums back in 2007 (5 years before Sandy Hook) to build up my "cover story".

If there's a conspiracy, I must be a part. So come on, confront me about it. Make my day.

Omg ur so badass, u cracked the case omg u should be on CSI now
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PostSubject: Re: Sandy Hook Fake?   Sat Jan 02, 2016 6:13 pm

as far as the coroner making distasteful remarks and the parents smiling, these actions are no way evidence for anything

SANDY HOOK WASN'T FAKE

every family who is now missing a child

every forum post, ever youtube account, every online profile

every police account, every crime scene photo, every piece of hard evidence

every family member of Adam, every friend of Nancy Lanza who gave information

everything that was wrong with his childhood, which added up to this

every piece of evidence that Adam Lanza was real, existed, and committed this crime

it's all lies? is that what you are saying? wake the fuck up people

a lack of evidence is not evidence (not that we even have a lack of evidence here ... but people seem to think it), anything that might seem weird about this case but COULD still logically fit with it does not count as evidence against it ever happening

and as for the conspirators out there - have you ever thought about why? why would this benefit the US government? because it made them look bad? it made a mockery of their gun laws? if I was seeing more drastic action against gun laws now, I might see how people think it was a hoax to turn people against such freedom with guns, but I'm not so I don't see


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