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Who are some shooters that made manifestos? (informative thread)
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Engel
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Subject: Who are some shooters that made manifestos? (informative thread) Sat Jan 01, 2022 6:49 pm
Some clarifications: Not counting suicide notes/journals
Who are shooters (and non-shooters if you want to add them) that created a manifesto Ill start this off:
Anders Behring Breivik (his video manifesto included): 2083: A Declaration Of Europeon Independence Brenton Tarrant: The Great Replacement Patrick Crusius: The Inconvenient Truth John Earnest: An Open Letter (?) Stephen Balliet Elliot Rodger: My Twisted World Seung-Hui Cho Pekka-Eric Auvinen: Natural Selector's Manifesto Dmitry Vinogradev Timur Bekmansurov Myron May Christopher Dorner Chris Harper-Mercer Tobias Rathjen Dylann Roof Vester Lee Flanigan David Sonboly (manifesto never released) William Atchison (supposedly he wrote one but it was deleted or got lost from what I've heard from other users)
Non-shooters: Theodore Kaczynski (the most obvious one): Industrial Society And It's Future Marvin Heemeyer (bulldozer rampage, no one hurt though) (his audio tapes could technically count as a manifesto)
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Subject: Re: Who are some shooters that made manifestos? (informative thread) Sat Jan 01, 2022 7:27 pm
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Subject: Re: Who are some shooters that made manifestos? (informative thread) Wed Jan 05, 2022 2:41 am
Dimitris Patmanidis Darion Aguilar Anton Lundin Pettersson (partially released) Kimveer Gill Carter Boyles (unreleased)
Panzerfaust wrote:
William Atchison (supposedly he wrote one but it was deleted or got lost from what I've heard from other users)
The Police released his "manifesto". It was found on a USB on his body, on a facebook page, and was included in a mediafire link William posted shortly before the shooting.
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Subject: Re: Who are some shooters that made manifestos? (informative thread) Wed Jan 05, 2022 1:11 pm
I haven’t heard he posted his manifesto on Facebook; also no one truely knows the contents of that mediafire post, it could have been something else though not likely.
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Subject: Re: Who are some shooters that made manifestos? (informative thread) Wed Jan 05, 2022 5:31 pm
CadaverCasualty wrote:
Anton Lundin Pettersson (partially released)
Are you talking about his suicide note to his family where he said something had to be done about immigration?
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"Live in virtue, no desire And in the grave an angel's choir You look to heaven and wonder why No one can see them in the sky
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Subject: Re: Who are some shooters that made manifestos? (informative thread) Wed Jan 05, 2022 5:48 pm
I didn’t realize Carter Boyles had a manifesto, are you sure about that. What’s the point of getting a message out if he wasnt going to do anything but shoot himself.
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Subject: Re: Who are some shooters that made manifestos? (informative thread) Wed Jan 05, 2022 7:18 pm
nicolecevario wrote:
I didn’t realize Carter Boyles had a manifesto, are you sure about that. What’s the point of getting a message out if he wasnt going to do anything but shoot himself.
Some people believe Boyles to have been a failed shooter who backed out at the last minute and chose to just shoot himself instead. I don't research his case much, so I don't know if there's strong evidence in favour or against that, such as if he brought multiple magazines to school or not. But I do know that that's a popular theory in his case.
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Subject: Re: Who are some shooters that made manifestos? (informative thread) Wed Jan 05, 2022 8:43 pm
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Subject: Re: Who are some shooters that made manifestos? (informative thread) Sat Jan 08, 2022 3:04 am
nicolecevario wrote:
I didn’t realize Carter Boyles had a manifesto, are you sure about that. What’s the point of getting a message out if he wasnt going to do anything but shoot himself.
Yep. It was allegedly a hand written note that was shared around the community by a parent (parent of a student at the school) at the time. All speculation, but is believed it to be true.
As for William, Police stated he left that final note on a "Facebook account", which he likely made because he knew people would search his name on Facebook and that would be the first thing they see. Problem is though, Facebook is in close connection with Law Enforcement so usually whenever a high profile incident happens, before the name is even publicized, the police have the suspects page wiped for the publics eye.
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Subject: Re: Who are some shooters that made manifestos? (informative thread) Sat Jan 08, 2022 3:06 am
Panzerfaust wrote:
CadaverCasualty wrote:
Anton Lundin Pettersson (partially released)
Are you talking about his suicide note to his family where he said something had to be done about immigration?
Yes
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Subject: Re: Who are some shooters that made manifestos? (informative thread) Sat Jan 08, 2022 4:59 pm
CadaverCasualty wrote:
Panzerfaust wrote:
CadaverCasualty wrote:
Anton Lundin Pettersson (partially released)
Are you talking about his suicide note to his family where he said something had to be done about immigration?
Yes
Ah, cause to me thats just a plain suicide note explaining why he did it to his family rather than a published manifesto
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"Live in virtue, no desire And in the grave an angel's choir You look to heaven and wonder why No one can see them in the sky
Just as the clouds have gone to sleep Angels can be seen in heaven's keep Alone in fear, they question why Goddamn, not an angel when I die" - Engel, Rammstein (English version)
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Subject: Re: Who are some shooters that made manifestos? (informative thread) Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:01 pm
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"Humanity is overrated, isn't it?" - Matti Saari
"Live in virtue, no desire And in the grave an angel's choir You look to heaven and wonder why No one can see them in the sky
Just as the clouds have gone to sleep Angels can be seen in heaven's keep Alone in fear, they question why Goddamn, not an angel when I die" - Engel, Rammstein (English version)
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Subject: Re: Who are some shooters that made manifestos? (informative thread) Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:51 pm
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Subject: Re: Who are some shooters that made manifestos? (informative thread) Mon Jan 10, 2022 11:22 pm
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nicolecevario wrote:
I didn’t realize Carter Boyles had a manifesto, are you sure about that. What’s the point of getting a message out if he wasnt going to do anything but shoot himself.
Yep. It was allegedly a hand written note that was shared around the community by a parent (parent of a student at the school) at the time. All speculation, but is believed it to be true.
As for William, Police stated he left that final note on a "Facebook account", which he likely made because he knew people would search his name on Facebook and that would be the first thing they see. Problem is though, Facebook is in close connection with Law Enforcement so usually whenever a high profile incident happens, before the name is even publicized, the police have the suspects page wiped for the publics eye.
Do you have a news article as a source that the police he he left a post on Facebook, I’m just curious because I’ve never read that before.
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Subject: Re: Who are some shooters that made manifestos? (informative thread) Mon Jan 10, 2022 11:24 pm
I don’t know if these count since they are video tapes: Ricardo Lopez Alavaro Castillo Ricky Rodriguez Randy Stair
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Subject: Re: Who are some shooters that made manifestos? (informative thread) Tue Jan 11, 2022 9:26 am
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Subject: Re: Who are some shooters that made manifestos? (informative thread) Mon Mar 07, 2022 11:08 pm
nicolecevario wrote:
I don’t know if these count since they are video tapes: Ricardo Lopez Alavaro Castillo Ricky Rodriguez Randy Stair
To me they are more video diaries
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"Live in virtue, no desire And in the grave an angel's choir You look to heaven and wonder why No one can see them in the sky
Just as the clouds have gone to sleep Angels can be seen in heaven's keep Alone in fear, they question why Goddamn, not an angel when I die" - Engel, Rammstein (English version)
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Subject: Re: Who are some shooters that made manifestos? (informative thread) Tue Mar 08, 2022 3:38 am
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Subject: Re: Who are some shooters that made manifestos? (informative thread) Tue Mar 08, 2022 3:15 pm
Marc Lepine - in the letter he gave more or less to understand the reasons why he perpetrated the shooting
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Subject: Re: Who are some shooters that made manifestos? (informative thread) Tue Dec 13, 2022 3:50 pm
Municipal College Eurides Sant'Anna shooter: “Post-Modernism and Its Consequences On Our Nation”
_________________ "I'll never understand humans. The way they live their lives, their feelings, the things they want to do in life, probably has something to do with these invisible gods they pray to. Meh" - Kimveer Gill
"Humanity is overrated, isn't it?" - Matti Saari
"Live in virtue, no desire And in the grave an angel's choir You look to heaven and wonder why No one can see them in the sky
Just as the clouds have gone to sleep Angels can be seen in heaven's keep Alone in fear, they question why Goddamn, not an angel when I die" - Engel, Rammstein (English version)
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Subject: Re: Who are some shooters that made manifestos? (informative thread) Wed Dec 28, 2022 8:54 am
Payton Gendron Juraj Krajčík: "A Call to Arms"
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Subject: Re: Who are some shooters that made manifestos? (informative thread) Wed Dec 28, 2022 8:55 am
Engel wrote:
Municipal College Eurides Sant'Anna shooter: “Post-Modernism and Its Consequences On Our Nation”
Can this one be read anywhere?
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Subject: Re: Who are some shooters that made manifestos? (informative thread) Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:46 pm
Sturmengel wrote:
Engel wrote:
Municipal College Eurides Sant'Anna shooter: “Post-Modernism and Its Consequences On Our Nation”
Can this one be read anywhere?
I second this, I've looked everywhere and I can't find a full version in Brazillian OR English
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