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Some clarifications:
Not counting suicide notes/journals

Who are shooters (and non-shooters if you want to add them) that created a manifesto
Ill start this off:

Anders Behring Breivik (his video manifesto included): 2083: A Declaration Of Europeon Independence
Brenton Tarrant: The Great Replacement
Patrick Crusius: The Inconvenient Truth
John Earnest: An Open Letter (?)
Stephen Balliet
Elliot Rodger: My Twisted World
Seung-Hui Cho
Pekka-Eric Auvinen: Natural Selector's Manifesto
Dmitry Vinogradev
Timur Bekmansurov
Myron May
Christopher Dorner
Chris Harper-Mercer
Tobias Rathjen
Dylann Roof
Vester Lee Flanigan
David Sonboly (manifesto never released)
William Atchison (supposedly he wrote one but it was deleted or got lost from what I've heard from other users)

Non-shooters:
Theodore Kaczynski (the most obvious one): Industrial Society And It's Future
Marvin Heemeyer (bulldozer rampage, no one hurt though) (his audio tapes could technically count as a manifesto)

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Darion Aguilar
Anton Lundin Pettersson (partially released)
Kimveer Gill
Carter Boyles (unreleased)

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William Atchison (supposedly he wrote one but it was deleted or got lost from what I've heard from other users)

The Police released his "manifesto". It was found on a USB on his body, on a facebook page, and was included in a mediafire link William posted shortly before the shooting.

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I haven’t heard he posted his manifesto on Facebook; also no one truely knows the contents of that mediafire post, it could have been something else though not likely.
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Anton Lundin Pettersson (partially released)

Are you talking about his suicide note to his family where he said something had to be done about immigration?

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I didn’t realize Carter Boyles had a manifesto, are you sure about that. What’s the point of getting a message out if he wasnt going to do anything but shoot himself.
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I didn’t realize Carter Boyles had a manifesto, are you sure about that. What’s the point of getting a message out if he wasnt going to do anything but shoot himself.

Some people believe Boyles to have been a failed shooter who backed out at the last minute and chose to just shoot himself instead. I don't research his case much, so I don't know if there's strong evidence in favour or against that, such as if he brought multiple magazines to school or not. But I do know that that's a popular theory in his case.
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nicolecevario wrote:
I didn’t realize Carter Boyles had a manifesto, are you sure about that. What’s the point of getting a message out if he wasnt going to do anything but shoot himself.

Yep. It was allegedly a hand written note that was shared around the community by a parent (parent of a student at the school) at the time. All speculation, but is believed it to be true.

As for William, Police stated he left that final note on a "Facebook account", which he likely made because he knew people would search his name on Facebook and that would be the first thing they see. Problem is though, Facebook is in close connection with Law Enforcement so usually whenever a high profile incident happens, before the name is even publicized, the police have the suspects page wiped for the publics eye.

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Panzerfaust wrote:
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Anton Lundin Pettersson (partially released)

Are you talking about his suicide note to his family where he said something had to be done about immigration?

Yes

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CadaverCasualty wrote:
Panzerfaust wrote:
CadaverCasualty wrote:


Anton Lundin Pettersson (partially released)

Are you talking about his suicide note to his family where he said something had to be done about immigration?

Yes

Ah, cause to me thats just a plain suicide note explaining why he did it to his family rather than a published manifesto

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nicolecevario wrote:
I didn’t realize Carter Boyles had a manifesto, are you sure about that. What’s the point of getting a message out if he wasnt going to do anything but shoot himself.

Yep. It was allegedly a hand written note that was shared around the community by a parent (parent of a student at the school) at the time. All speculation, but is believed it to be true.

As for William, Police stated he left that final note on a "Facebook account", which he likely made because he knew people would search his name on Facebook and that would be the first thing they see. Problem is though, Facebook is in close connection with Law Enforcement so usually whenever a high profile incident happens, before the name is even publicized, the police have the suspects page wiped for the publics eye.
Do you have a news article as a source that the police he he left a post on Facebook, I’m just curious because I’ve never read that before.
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I don’t know if these count since they are video tapes:
Ricardo Lopez
Alavaro Castillo
Ricky Rodriguez
Randy Stair
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nicolecevario wrote:
I don’t know if these count since they are video tapes:
Ricardo Lopez
Alavaro Castillo
Ricky Rodriguez
Randy Stair

To me they are more video diaries

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Municipal College Eurides Sant'Anna shooter: “Post-Modernism and Its Consequences On Our Nation”

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Municipal College Eurides Sant'Anna shooter: “Post-Modernism and Its Consequences On Our Nation”
Can this one be read anywhere?
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Sturmengel wrote:
Engel wrote:
Municipal College Eurides Sant'Anna shooter: “Post-Modernism and Its Consequences On Our Nation”
Can this one be read anywhere?

I second this, I've looked everywhere and I can't find a full version in Brazillian OR English
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