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Columbine High School Massacre Discussion Forum
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Subject: .. Mon Dec 12, 2022 4:53 pm
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Subject: Re: .. Mon Dec 12, 2022 5:31 pm
Eulavist wrote:
I don't know about any of you, but I personally have found almost all the more modern mass shootings to be very unappealing, if that's the correct term to use here, I don't know. There is just something about them that doesn't really provoke an interest for furthering research on the event/perpetrator(s), and I am not quite sure why that is either. So, for any who decide to respond, what is the last mass shooting that put you into a rabbit hole of interest and research? Do any of you feel similar to me, or do you all tend to follow the latest mass shootings as much as possible? Or does only a specific type of event stick out to you for certain reasons? Thanks to any and all who respond, I am looking forward to reading any and all that appear.
Dude, I completely get what you mean. The last one for me was probably Brenton Tarrant, mainly because he was the first person to ever livestream a mass murder as a sort of propaganda piece, which was remarkable at the time. I researched Payton Gendron and Salvador Ramos a little bit, but not really that much because there isn't that much to say about them personality-wise, or aesthetic-wise. They were just morons. The only thing I found interesting about them is that some claim they were in the same discord and telegram servers and were both groomed by a shadowy figure named "Armand." I really only find it interesting because it's conspiracy fuel basically, I don't take it seriously. Let's compare Salvador Ramos and Adam Lanza for a moment, both of whom committed similar crimes. Salvador Ramos was a boastful attention-seeker that bragged about harming animals, after he committed his crime, all of the retarded shit he'd ever gloated about on discord was revealed, his motive was likely because he was mad his mom or whoever kicked him out. Lanza didn't leave a huge digital footprint, what he did leave behind showed a troubled yet smart individual that had a capacity for intellectual pursuits like philosophy, a lot of this info wasn't rediscovered until years after the whole ordeal went down, his motive is widely speculated upon, and I don't even need to tell you all of the crazy theories about him. Someone like Adam is just way more mysterious and intriguing than some one-dimensional idiot like Salvador Ramos.
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Subject: Re: .. Mon Dec 12, 2022 5:38 pm
What kind of research do you do for the cases you prefer? Personally I follow up on cases with more information available, so for example I’ve read three books on Columbine (Cullen’s, Kass’s, and Brooks’), and read Reed Coleman’s book about Lanza, while also reading a lot of supplementary materials like E+D’s diaries or archived Lanza posts. But I’ve also never read the 11k and there’s still things Lanza left behind that I’ve yet to review. So I wouldn’t consider myself more than an amateur, really it’s closer to voyeurism.
I do agree that a lot of killers have been more boring than usual, but usually this is more thanks to the fact that fewer people are collecting and releasing information then anything to do with the killers (prime example is the most recent Russian school shooter, I only remember he invoke Eric and Dylan). I prefer killers that try to articulate things in their own words, so currently I’m trying to get through the manifesto of Ethan Miller since someone posted it in full here. That doesn’t mean a killer that refuses to put their thoughts to paper is a deal breaker, but it does make them less easy to understand.
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Subject: Re: .. Mon Dec 12, 2022 6:25 pm
The July 4th one in Highland Park was the last mass shooting I really looked into. I tend to follow mass shootings as soon as I hear about them, but often times I stop looking into them when there is no new information. It seems that over time I look more into older mass shootings though, because newer ones are less interesting to me.
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Subject: Re: .. Thu Dec 22, 2022 9:02 pm
The Raleigh one was pretty sad and interesting. It was outside on trails and around neighborhoods with people enjoying life which is different compared to your average school and before the damn cold of winter then some AMOK 15 year old ruins everyone’s October day. Interesting how there is body cam footage and how the gunman survived a shot to the head. Juvenile crime is interesting and I hope we can prevent more of it.
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Subject: Re: .. Thu Dec 22, 2022 9:13 pm
Probably Timur Bekmansurov.
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Subject: Re: .. Fri Dec 23, 2022 1:19 am
The Greenwood Park Mall shooting and the Edmund Burke shooting captured my attention because both criminals made posts about their crimes that I personally saw before they were removed.
But anyways i'm not much interested un them, yeah there was a conference about Greenwood recently but there is not much relevant information and much less information is out there about Edmund Burke and think That there will be no more information about Edmund unless someone request a FOIA because it only had 4 victims all of them injured, which is sad because i still asking my self how Raymond got all that arsenal with being literally a ghost.
In general, the recently mass shootings do not interest me, because unless if they are an extraordinary event As Uvalde, not much information comes out after the shooting happened.