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PostSubject: The Harisses?   The Harisses? Icon_minitimeTue May 06, 2014 4:35 pm

The Harisses have remained pretty quiet after Columbine. From what I have read they seemed to move on and write Eric off as it were?

Is this the case?

Does anyone know if they have expressed anything with regards to Eric since the massacre?
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PostSubject: Re: The Harisses?   The Harisses? Icon_minitimeTue May 06, 2014 7:40 pm

Aside from the Harris families continued silence i don't personally feel that in any way this suggests they have written Eric off and moved on, although i can see how them remaining quiet could be perceived this way. Unless they do actually speak publicly one day, which i feel is very unlikely, we will probably never know what their lives have been like since the massacre or how they feel about Eric.
Much has been speculated about the Harris family based on how they responded after the massacre and how they were perceived by officials.
There's limited information about what the Harris family has expressed since the massacre, but there are some interesting nuggets of information floating around out there.
The Harris family have not done any kind of sit down interviews with the media as far as i am aware, certainly nothing like Sue Klebold's Oprah magazine essay or the Klebold's section in Far from the Tree.

The Harris family issued the following statement the day after the massacre:
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We want to express our heartfelt sympathy to the families of all the victims and to all the community for this senseless tragedy. Please say prayers for everyone touched by these terrible events.

The Harries also wrote letters to the families of the victims and those injured in the shooting. According to Jeff Kass one such letter to injured victim Mark Taylor read:
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Dear Mark,
Please accept our heartfelt wishes for a full and speedy recovery from your injuries. There are no words to express the tragic events of that day. We would have given our lives to prevent them.
May you have the strength and the support to continue your healing process.
The letter was signed Wayne, Kathy and Kevin.

Without going too much off topic i'm sure some members here are aware of the issues surrounding when the victims actually received their letters from the Harris family. The Harries had sent their letters via the school district who then forwarded the mail to the sheriff's office, who apparently felt too uneasy delivering them. The sheriff's office claimed they tried to return the letters to the Harrises via their attorney but could not establish contact with him. Therefore the letters were not delivered until several months later.
Reportedly Kathy Harris was "livid" and expressed how "extremely upset" her family was about this incident, even saying she would have delivered the letters herself.
The above information was taken from Columbine A True Crime Story by Jeff Kass and The Denver Post:
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The Harris family attorney issued the following statement to the Denver Post:
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Wayne and Kathy Harris have been devastated by what their son, Eric, did. They continue to grieve for all of the victims and their families. Hopefully, there will come a time when they feel they are ready to speak publicly about their son and the horrible acts that he committed, but now is just not that time.
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There is also the meeting that Wayne and Kathy Harris had with the Mauser family where they spoke about Eric. As described by Mr Mauser Kathy Harris handed his wife a basket of flowers at the meeting and described how the Harrises expressed their condolences and regret for what Eric had done to Daniel.
As far as what the Harrises reportedly said about Eric:
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Mr Mauser says the Harrises seemed "mystified" by what had happened to Eric.
They appeared to readily accept that Eric was a psychopath but do not know how he became one.
That Eric "fooled them" and his psychologist.
The Harrises said they ate family meals with Eric and were never cruel to him.
Kathy insisted they were always "available" for Eric.
Interestingly Mr Mauser comments that the Harrises did not appear to think they had missed any red flags with Eric.
The Harrises said Eric did seem to have intense reactions to being slighted and at one time he had become so mad he slammed his fist into a brick wall badly scraping his knuckles.
Eric's parents suggested he may have been self conscious due to his chest abnormality. They said Eric had been upset about his operation as it had not seemed to help much.
The Harrises discussed how Eric was not interested in joining any clubs at school, had made no plans for for the fall of 1999 and had few friends.
Mr Harris apparently stated Eric was not overly found of weaponry but did subscribe to a gun magazine, saying he thought this was to help him understand the game Doom.
Mr Mauser states the Harris family had indicated they were too vulnerable to speak to the media.

The above information was summarized from Walking in Daniels Shoes by Tom Mauser.

Again i don't want to deviate too much away from the OP but thinking about the meeting the Harrises had with the Mausers i have often wondered if there has ever been any kind of communication between the Harris and Klebold families. It was just a thought i had while writing this post.
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PostSubject: Re: The Harisses?   The Harisses? Icon_minitimeTue May 06, 2014 8:46 pm

Thanks for the info. I have also wondered about whether or not the klebold have spoken to the Harisses since the massacre.

I'm still weary of Eric being called a psychopath. As you may know psychopathic traits don't necessarily lead to murder.

But it is good to know a bit more about the Harisses.
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PostSubject: Re: The Harisses?   The Harisses? Icon_minitimeTue May 06, 2014 10:30 pm

I feel so terrible for Eric's Mother especially.This is her baby , her child she carried for 9 months, gave birth to and raised and he is widely condemned as evil and an inhuman psychopath. And that's what most people believe.I can't even imagine what it is like for her.

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PostSubject: Re: The Harisses?   The Harisses? Icon_minitimeSat May 10, 2014 3:16 am

^ And Kevin too. It seems like they had a good relationship, and it must be hard for him not having his only sibling around anymore.
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PostSubject: Re: The Harisses?   The Harisses? Icon_minitimeSat May 10, 2014 9:36 pm

That's a good and important point deelightful.It must hurt Kevin a lot to hear his own brother described as such and to know that is what most people believe about him.And no doubt he has also suffered greatly with the loss of his little brother and all that happened.

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PostSubject: Re: The Harisses?   The Harisses? Icon_minitimeSat May 10, 2014 11:27 pm

Kevin Harris has a daughter named Erica, most likely in remembrance of his little brother.
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PostSubject: Re: The Harisses?   The Harisses? Icon_minitimeSun May 11, 2014 12:19 pm

Juicy Jazzy wrote:
Kevin Harris has a daughter named Erica, most likely in remembrance of his little brother.

Was there ever any proof of this or was it just a Tumblr rumor? Personally i'm not sure i believe this.
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PostSubject: Re: The Harisses?   The Harisses? Icon_minitimeSun May 11, 2014 1:57 pm

queenfarooq wrote:
Juicy Jazzy wrote:
Kevin Harris has a daughter named Erica, most likely in remembrance of his little brother.

Was there ever any proof of this or was it just a Tumblr rumor? Personally i'm not sure i believe this.

Neither do I.

If it is actually true, it does makes complete sense that he and his wife would name their child after his brother. But I've never, EVER read anything that even remotely proves this.

He, along with his parents, have proven to be incredibly private people, and considering that, I don't see how or why this would be readily available information.

If I am wrong, then I am wrong, but I don't believe it, either. At this time it seems that if this is accurate, anyone that obtained this information did so through snooping around without their knowledge let alone their consent.

A number of people have done such things concerning an array of people who are somehow connected to columbine, particularly in the last few years, and usually they will boastfully provide the proof by posting it for the world to see. That is incredibly disrespectful and invasive (I cannot STAND when people do that), but I do not see how they wouldn't do so concerning this information, especially being that it is information that is connected to Eric. If it is true, it is very good that they have decided against posting proof, however, it is still disrespectful to discuss it, especially on tumblr or any other public network.
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PostSubject: Re: The Harisses?   The Harisses? Icon_minitimeSun May 11, 2014 2:43 pm

tfsa47090 wrote:
queenfarooq wrote:
Juicy Jazzy wrote:
Kevin Harris has a daughter named Erica, most likely in remembrance of his little brother.

Was there ever any proof of this or was it just a Tumblr rumor? Personally i'm not sure i believe this.

Neither do I.

If it is actually true, it does makes complete sense that he and his wife would name their child after his brother. But I've never, EVER read anything that even remotely proves this.

He, along with his parents, have proven to be incredibly private people, and considering that, I don't see how or why this would be readily available information.

If I am wrong, then I am wrong, but I don't believe it, either. At this time it seems that if this is accurate, anyone that obtained this information did so through snooping around without their knowledge let alone their consent.

A number of people have done such things concerning an array of people who are somehow connected to columbine, particularly in the last few years, and usually they will boastfully provide the proof by posting it for the world to see. That is incredibly disrespectful and invasive (I cannot STAND when people do that), but I do not see how they wouldn't do so concerning this information, especially being that it is information that is connected to Eric. If it is true, it is very good that they have decided against posting proof, however, it is still disrespectful to discuss it, especially on tumblr or any other public network.

I am in agreement with both of you. I don't believe this rumor either. Is there even any proof that Eric's brother even had a child yet? Didn't he only just get married 2 years ago or so? He may not even have a baby yet. In my personal opinion, and this is just my opinion but I do not think that Kevin would want to name his child after Eric. Not because he didn't love his brother because I am sure he did but because why would he want to have that name follow his kid around all her life? Knowing that she was named after someone who murdered innocent children? Because regardless of whether he was her Uncle or not, he was a murderer. Would you name her after Eric?

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PostSubject: Re: The Harisses?   The Harisses? Icon_minitimeSun May 11, 2014 8:57 pm

Kevin married in 2004 or 2005. So he has been married for several years now.I know that he and his wife Kendra have at least one child who is a girl but I do not know the child's name. I never heard she was named Erica but it could be true for all I know.If I were Kevin and I wanted to somehow name my child after Eric as a memorial or tribute to him I would.I would feel that he was my brother and that would be my right .I would want my child to know the brother I knew as I remembered him. Kevin may feel differently and some other people would no doubt not want to do that either.

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PostSubject: Re: The Harisses?   The Harisses? Icon_minitimeSun May 11, 2014 9:16 pm

You do have a good point though Jen. Such a name might cause a child difficulties.Maybe in that situation a middle name might be best.


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PostSubject: Re: The Harisses?   The Harisses? Icon_minitimeThu May 15, 2014 6:56 pm

If you search for Wayne or Kathy in the Shocked Beyond Belief archives you will find literally thousands of posts about this subject.
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