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Subject: Killing Spree: Columbine documentary Sat May 17, 2014 3:49 pm
So, has anyone seen the new documentary about Columbine. Pretty interesting.
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Subject: Re: Killing Spree: Columbine documentary Sat May 17, 2014 5:28 pm
I have this taped on my TV but i am still yet to view it. I've heard there's quite a few inaccuracies and misquotes however as i mention i'm yet to view it yet. I have a day off tomorrow so maybe i will watch it then.
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Subject: Re: Killing Spree: Columbine documentary Sun May 18, 2014 2:07 am
I took the time tonight to watch this and it is an interesting documentary, I was glad to see a new documentary about Columbine and see people like the 911 dispatcher and Frank DeAngelis, it was also good to see people like Craig Scott there and the Browns again but I wasnt very agree with some things that the psychologist and criminologist said, I think that they could go deeper into the topic and about the personality disorders that they could have, problems and facts that affected them and would cause this and of course Dave Cullen that only said things that we already know, also I wanted to see Frank DeAngelis talking more about Dylan and Eric, apart from the things that he said and we aalready know too. However, in general it was good and worth it , even though, I am still waiting a documentary with more new whitnesses and a more in-depth topic.
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Just watched this on my lunch break. I haven't watched every single thing on Columbine, so some of it was new to me, or if I had heard it before I don't remember. Having Sean Graves on there was a plus, I haven't seen anything with him in it yet. Daniel Mauser's Dad's face at the end right when the geese were flying over.....had me almost in tears.
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Thanks for sharing. I really enjoyed watching that. Besides Cullen, I thought it was really well done. Every time I hear Tom Mauser talk about the "last bus" I get choked up.
Like Mj2beat said, needs more depth. All that is shown is the surface of it all.
Where-> Littleton, Colorado. Shows columbine as it looks today, some small clips from helicopters and ground news from back in '99 aswell as some clips of the two which I'm sure you've seen hundreds of times When -> 20.04.1999 (sorry, european ) Who -> Eric and Dylan What -> 13 ( +2) dead. Talks more about Isaiah, M. Ketcher, R. Scott as those who died (the others aren't mentioned much if at all) Why -> talks around 5 minutes about possible motive being bullying but no in-depth, them having mental disorders ( 1 interviewed criminologist talks about Eric as a psychopath and Dylan being depressed), Eric having to move etc. , but not in-depth. Interviewed -> F. DeAngelis, Kate Battan (finally know what she looks like!), Craig Scott, D. Mauser's dad, Jeff Kass , Dave Cullen, Brook's Parents but Brooks himself is NOT in this at all, the woman who responded to the 911 call (forgot her name).
The documentary is mostly WHAT happened (columbine killers was much more in-depth). Only new thing (as in video or picture) was a picture of brooks in highschool along with some other kids, black and white, bad quality I'd say.
Good documentary but nowhere near enough depth if that's what you're looking for. Definetly WORTH A WATCH though!
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I don't think this current documentary will be on DVD yet as it was broadcast only recently. I've not seen 'The Columbine Killers' as a DVD yet. Both documentaries are available to watch online. It's possible that someone who runs one of the Columbine related sites may have put The Columbine Killers onto a DVD and be selling it.
Thanks for the summary Magnaphoria it's interesting to see what others think of the new documentary. I will get around to watching it and post my thoughts also.
Was a reallllly good one I think. For me the best part was the filming inside the school.
There is a part where the principle is stood at the end of a hallway, I fully clocked on that it's the same hallway that Eric and Dylan filmed the HFH videos and where they first entered the school during the shooting(I think).
The camera shots are so so good.
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Subject: Re: Killing Spree: Columbine documentary Mon May 26, 2014 1:53 am
Nothing new.
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Subject: Re: Killing Spree: Columbine documentary Mon May 26, 2014 3:13 am
Very sad but interesting documentary. It was unnecessary for Cullen to be involved. And when will people stop blaming Columbine entirely on Eric?! They were both equally angry, hateful and troubled boys who despertaley needed major help and should share every ounce of blame!! I wish they could see that Eric was in just as much pain and despair as Dylan instead of seeing him as a evil physcopathic mastermind!!
I also enjoyed watching this documentary, thanks for posting it! The interviews with Craig Scott and Tom Mauser made me realize how much they still hurt and that they will carry their pain for the rest of their lives. quite sad.
It was Dylan's idea originally after he saw the movie Natural Born Killers, Eric being the new kid and wanting acceptance ran with the idea to the point of now return. For Dylan it was simply a way out.
The documentary was interesting in some aspects, but I noticed something. I feel as if the Browns always have something to tack on in their stories of "Eric the devil". It's just...intriguing for me, I suppose. I'm not a fan of the Brown family however, so this could be me attempting to antagonize them.
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Subject: Re: Killing Spree: Columbine documentary Tue Jun 17, 2014 9:08 am
CatherineM813 wrote:
Very sad but interesting documentary. It was unnecessary for Cullen to be involved. And when will people stop blaming Columbine entirely on Eric?! They were both equally angry, hateful and troubled boys who despertaley needed major help and should share every ounce of blame!! I wish they could see that Eric was in just as much pain and despair as Dylan instead of seeing him as a evil physcopathic mastermind!!
Thank you for posting this documentary.
If he was truly a psychopathic mastermind, those propane bombs would've worked.
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Pretty much the same as most other Columbine documentaries, although the parts with Sean Graves were interesting. It's getting a bit boring seeing Randy and Judy Brown in every goddamn documentary now, lol.
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Subject: Re: Killing Spree: Columbine documentary Sat Jun 21, 2014 2:36 am
I notice Richard Castaldo commented not to read Cullen's book because Cullen doesn't know what he's talking about and wasn't there when it happened.
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Subject: Re: Killing Spree: Columbine documentary Sat Jun 21, 2014 2:44 am
Isn't that what most of us here are saying too?
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Subject: Re: Killing Spree: Columbine documentary Sat Jun 21, 2014 2:51 am
He also commented why some people worshipping those 'fuckwads' as he calls them. Stroll down the comments of the vid if you want to see it.
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Subject: Re: Killing Spree: Columbine documentary Mon Jun 30, 2014 4:39 am
"Nothing new." Yeah? Ok, we know almost everything that has happened that day, before that day and after...but it's always interesting to see a new documentary or story on CM. Adding Sean Graves was absolutely a plus.
But man, did my emotions ever run at the end with Mr.Mauser....wow. POWERFUL. Very good documentary!
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As everyone else has said, very much enjoyed hearing Sean Graves speak at length about his experience. Frank DeAngelis pretty obviously didn't know either Eric or Dylan, was quoting what he had been told or had read in their records. No, there wasn't any new information, but still interesting/enjoyable.
Listening to them talk about the diad and the relationship between Eric and Dylan - they talk about how one has a stronger personality, blah blah. I don't think Eric's personality is particularly strong. Watch him in RR or the EiC videos. He defers to the people around him. Specifically in EiC, he is quiet, withdrawn, not self-confident. Since nobody comments on it, I assume that this was typical behavior for him.
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