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Subject: Sex wouldn't have "cured" Elliot Rodger. Tue Jan 23, 2024 10:10 pm
Was it his stated motive? Yes. Was it something that he was obsessive about? Yes. But I think that with incel killers (and incels in general), he didn't have issues solely because of this. I am under the impression that, even if Elliot Rodger happened to find a girlfriend and have sex, that he would be just as fucked up and miserable like he was before. It's a pervasive issue that wouldn't have been "cured" by getting what he wants.
Elliot was incredibly emotionally stunted, neurotic, and probably had alexithymia to some extent. He seemed to have some self awareness, but not the kind that would lead to self improvement or introspectiveness. Rather, his introspections just led to him being more radical and hateful. Simply getting laid would've only moved the goalposts; he probably would've began obsessing over his lack of friends, status, or money had he gotten laid, being just as spiteful and neurotic as before. I highly doubt his misogyny and racism would've gone away as well. Just going off mere speculation, but I can't see him being in a positive relationship with any girl; he would've probably become over controlling and abusive. Had a break up occured, it's definitely possible that he would've became an aggressive stalker.
I think a lot of people are under the impression that incels would become "cured" had they just had sex or get a girlfriend, but this is the wrong way to look at things. It's like assuming a gambling or scratch-off addict would suddenly curb their addiction if they win big. Societal expectations and social media may play a large role to explain why the rise of the incel movement, as feelings of FOMO creep into people as they're reminded that others are doing "better" than they are. For every misogynistic incel, there's thousands of involuntary celibates that are emotionally stable and don't subscribe to the hateful ideology. Their celibacy isn't the cause of their misogyny, rather an excuse for it, and once they no longer fall into the "involuntary celibate" category, they continue to be just as hateful as before.
Maybe this is common knowledge to the forum (idk since im new here) but I think many people simply assume that Incel killers like Elliot Rodger would've been "cured" had they gotten what they wanted, but reading up on their history proves this isn't the case. I mean, Elliot was wealthy, lived in a nice area, drove a nice car, and looked decently attractive, why assume all of his rage and envy would've just vanished once he had sex?
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Subject: Re: Sex wouldn't have "cured" Elliot Rodger. Wed Jan 24, 2024 1:43 am
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Subject: Re: Sex wouldn't have "cured" Elliot Rodger. Wed Jan 24, 2024 8:00 am
Sgt.Grey wrote:
Bla Bla Bla stfu n.igga
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Subject: Re: Sex wouldn't have "cured" Elliot Rodger. Wed Jan 24, 2024 8:23 am
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Sgt.Grey wrote:
Bla Bla Bla stfu n.igga
Lol
Ye gtfo filthy ass nerdfag
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Subject: Re: Sex wouldn't have "cured" Elliot Rodger. Wed Jan 24, 2024 12:53 pm
Go back to reddit you stupid fag. This title alone shows how little you care to see things from his perspective. Your arguments are nonsense. "It's like assuming a gambling or scratch-off addict would suddenly curb their addiction if they win big." Gamblers get a thrill from gambling, the thrill of uncertainty, not just "winning big". That's why Stephen Paddock (if he existed) was still gambling when he was about to die with more money than he could spend. It's a pastime to them, not a straightforward goal like a relationship. Who is this post even for? You aren't saying anything new that will change someone's opinions. Your argument is so similar to an r/masskillers comments section that it looks like you just copied points from there.
You also assumed that he was rich. His parents were actually in debt because his father made a dogshit failed movie about what god is, and sure he had an apartment in a nice area but he was excluded from the activities there. He wasn't good looking. Pretty much everyone credible has rated him 4-5/10. I don't need to elaborate. He did have the second hand BMW though.
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Subject: Re: Sex wouldn't have "cured" Elliot Rodger. Wed Jan 24, 2024 1:58 pm
name wrote:
It's a pastime to them, not a straightforward goal like a relationship.
But it's done with the goal of getting rich. Maybe gambling in general is a poor equivalent, but people wouldn't buy scratch offs without the possibility of winning big. In that case, they don't necessarily do it for fun, but rather because it's possible they could win.
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Who is this post even for? You aren't saying anything new that will change someone's opinions.
Laypeople and people on r/Masskillers would disagree. Ive discussed this with others and my thoughts seem to run against what they'd generally assume.
also
> Maybe this is common knowledge to the forum (idk since im new here)
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You also assumed that he was rich. His parents were actually in debt because his father made a dogshit failed movie about what god is, and sure he had an apartment in a nice area but he was excluded from the activities there. He wasn't good looking. Pretty much everyone credible has rated him 4-5/10. I don't need to elaborate. He did have the second hand BMW though.
Well, Elliot thought he was rich and attractive. Whether this lines up with reality is debatable. I don't personally find him attractive, but Ive known of laypeople who thought so when the news broke out about him. This has more to do with what Elliot thought of himself and what the general public thought of him, rather than what I personally think of him.
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Subject: Re: Sex wouldn't have "cured" Elliot Rodger. Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:54 pm
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Subject: Re: Sex wouldn't have "cured" Elliot Rodger. Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:55 am
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The only way an ugly feminine man can live comfortably.
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Subject: Re: Sex wouldn't have "cured" Elliot Rodger. Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:45 pm
Thats why Incels.is exits
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Subject: Re: Sex wouldn't have "cured" Elliot Rodger. Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:46 pm
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Looks like fucking Meg Griffin before she went amok in Eslöv
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- Dimitris Patmanidis, 2009
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