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PostSubject: "Eric and Dylan never said they were bullied"   "Eric and Dylan never said they were bullied" Icon_minitimeSun Aug 30, 2015 12:53 pm

Oh, yeah?

Eric Harris wrote:
Everyone is always making fun of me because of how I look, how fucking weak I am and shit, well I will get you all back: ultimate fucking revenge here. you people could have shown more respect, treated me better, asked for my knowledge or guidence more, treated me more like senior, and maybe I wouldn't have been as ready to tear your fucking heads off. then again, I have always hated how I looked, I make fun of people who look like me, sometimes without even thinking sometimes just because I want to rip on myself. Thats where a lot of my hate grows from, the fact that I have practically no selfesteem, especially concerning girls and looks and such. therefore people make fun of me... constantly... therefore I get no respect and therefore I get fucking PISSED.

"Everybody with white hats, stand up! This is for all the shit you've given us for the past four years!" — Dylan Klebold, as he entered the library

Harris recalls how he moved around so much with his military family and always had to start over, “at the bottom of the ladder.” People continually made fun of him – “my face, my hair, my shirts.”

As for Klebold, “If you could see all the anger I’ve stored over the past four fucking years…” he says. His brother Byron was popular and athletic and constantly “ripped” on him, as did the brother’s friends. Except for his parents, Klebold says, his extended family treated him like the runt of the litter. “You made me what I am,” he said. “You added to the rage.” As far back as the Foothills Day Care center, he hated the “stuck-up” kids he felt hated him. “Being shy didn’t help,” he admits. “I’m going to kill you all. You’ve been giving us shit for years."

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That's all you got LPorter?  One line about a shirt, and Dylan reaching back to his Day Care Center to justify killing 500 high school students?

That seems pretty thin evidence to me, and I could quote you thousands of words that support my theory of a grandiose narcissistic killing driven by mental illness.

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That's all you got LPorter?  One line about a shirt, and Dylan reaching back to his Day Care Center to justify killing 500 high school students?

That seems pretty thin evidence to me, and I could quote you thousands of words that support my theory of a grandiose narcissistic killing driven by mental illness.

Nothing is going to justify what they had planned to do. Period.
Did they believe their actions were justified? Obviously they did

I'd be interested to see what you've come up with. Quote away

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I could quote you thousands of words that support my theory of a grandiose narcissistic killing driven by mental illness.

Go on then.

P.s Cullen lies don't count.

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Quotes form the FBI analyst done count either.
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Quotes form the FBI analyst done count either.

Lasttrain is screwed then. Very Happy

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We all know Eric and Dylan were bullied (except Lasttrain, who I strongly suspect he has ties with Cullen, or is Cullen himself). It just wasn't their main motive on why they went NBK.
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PostSubject: Re: "Eric and Dylan never said they were bullied"   "Eric and Dylan never said they were bullied" Icon_minitimeMon Aug 31, 2015 9:50 am

don't forget that the girl on the news after he massacre said

"He put the gun in my face and started laughing and said this was all because people were mean to him last year"

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PostSubject: Re: "Eric and Dylan never said they were bullied"   "Eric and Dylan never said they were bullied" Icon_minitimeMon Aug 31, 2015 10:55 am

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don't forget that the girl on the news after he massacre said

"He put the gun in my face and started laughing and said this was all because people were mean to him last year"

Cullen spends a lot of time in his book trying to tell us that Bree Pasquale was full of shit ... I wonder why?

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PostSubject: Re: "Eric and Dylan never said they were bullied"   "Eric and Dylan never said they were bullied" Icon_minitimeTue Jun 01, 2021 8:39 am

They also told everyone to stand up and none of the people they killed bullied them.

Its an open question wether or not they were bullied or to what extent. The shooting didnt happen because they were bullied, but it might have been a factor.

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Theres research on school shooters and why they do it. Theres no single cause for explanation. Its complicated. Bullying cant be ruled out as a factor, yet, combined with so many other things.
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:
don't forget that the girl on the news after he massacre said

"He put the gun in my face and started laughing and said this was all because people were mean to him last year"


IDK how many quotes people can take out of context, but the one with white hats are the most interesting.

They said plenty of stuff. They told everyone with white hats to stand up before they told everyone to stand up. They let one jock survive,even. It was a random shooting
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As mentioned above, I do not believe that the shooting was 100% revenge, but many factors that also contributed and harassment could be one of them. people usually believe that all school shootings are for some kind of "revenge" for bullying or something like that when it is something really uncertain, since each one has its own context.

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Most people's default when it comes to school shootings is revenge as so many shooters were bullied in school and so could carry out an attack for revenge.

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The reason why they rarely talked about having been bullied might be as simple as this: people generally don’t like to talk about something they consider humiliating or embarrassing. I don’t believe they were, as Brooks put it, “the lowest of the low”, but Columbine really didn’t seem like a welcoming place for non-jock students. Having said that, I’m not sure how much bullying contributed to their dissatisfaction with life and their hatred of humanity. Would they have shot up their school if its social environment had been more friendly? IDK. I lean more towards yes, though. Maybe that’s just me.
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Most people's default when it comes to school shootings is revenge as so many shooters were bullied in school and so could carry out an attack for revenge.


These are the facts

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In any case they have been bullied, its not a single cause for explanation.
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There could be Tons of reasons why they hardly mention bullying, but I feel like its difficult to tell
Many of their closest friends said that they never did see any Bullying. Some claimed that Eric was more harassed than Dylan. Some claimed both were bullied.

What matters is that they both had serious problems. Dont get me wrong; bullying is horrible, and the consequences can be devastating.


I get the impression that it was especially rampant at Columbine(sources Regina Huerter report). But the statements from Eric and Dylans friends are so conflicting IDK what to think.
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