E & D's first exposure to the TCM & "fighting back"

So when was E & D's first exposure to hanging around the TCM & when did they engage in discussion with its members about fighting back?

In interviews it's mentioned that TCM members or those surrounding that click "often talked revenge & killing the jocks etc.. but it was all talk & no one considered it reality". Are those references prior to E & H's writings?

I've always thought E&H being younger were influenced by the bond & the reason for the creation of the bond of TCM (self defense/camaraderie) & wonder if not assume they fostered their NBK ideology from the TCM.

All part of the perfect storm that created 4/20?

It probably played a part. I know that the TCM group talked about it enough to use it as a conversation topic.

In Tim Kass's book, there are a few different occasions where others in the school even joke about Eric and Dylan being the prime candidates for the next school shooting.

It got talked about commonly among a lot of the students and faculty also because there was a rash of school shootings in the preceding years, and it was the trendy moral panic for the time being.

Yeah people talked about potential shootings, becaus eit was on the news. Most people of course did not mean it in any serious manner. I imagined it was the same sort of: "So, when will someone fly a plane into our school?" type talk that took place after 9/11.

My point is: the fact that someone somewhere mentioned a shooting in a casual conversation doesn't mean much. Certainly its no proof that anyone was "in the know" or that serious homicide plans were common among students, or even that CHS was unique in that sense.

When I was a wee young kid, kids in my school would often say stuff like: "It would be fun if someone blew this school up" or "I'm gonna bring a bomb to the enxt math test, this teacher sucks so bad someone should make mince meat out of him".

Of course there was nothing to it, nobody was "in the know", nobody ever attempted any homicide or bombing.


I think its one of the reasons why E&D could get away with violent writing and angry talk so easily. People were used to it being done in an innocent way by harmless kids.