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Subject: Re: Things Columbiners do Wed Sep 30, 2015 2:10 pm
Wow that's pretty weird.
Not gonna say too much details, but in my company (huge worldwide corporation) we use an archive system with customer details, phones etc. We also have a test verison of said system where new employees can fool around and learn how to create new accounts edit accounts etc without doing dmaage to the actual database. The "customer accounts" in the test server are not real people, rather stuff employees create to learn how to use the system.
Said test archive contained entries for Rachel Joy Scott and Eric Harris, something I recently learned. Its a worldwide coporation, so could have been someone wfrom anywhere - USA, Australia etc.
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Subject: Re: Things Columbiners do Thu Oct 01, 2015 7:13 pm
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], I understand that to a non -Columbiner such things seem strange but to me they don't at all. It's a way of paying some kind of tribute to the memory of someone you care about or a way to connect with them in an emotional way.
Thank you for the information. I actually find that really interesting.
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Subject: Re: Things Columbiners do Thu Oct 01, 2015 9:25 pm
Columbiner leaves sign on public wall:
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Subject: Re: Things Columbiners do Thu Oct 01, 2015 9:32 pm
Columbiner trys out Eric's look in her bedroom:
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Subject: Re: Things Columbiners do Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:25 pm
Errr... this is why I stopped following the Columbine tag on tumblr.
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Subject: Re: Things Columbiners do Fri Oct 02, 2015 2:54 am
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Subject: Re: Things Columbiners do Fri Oct 02, 2015 6:40 am
A pillow with Rocky Hoffshneider, that's a grand idea. That'd be the epitome of bizarre merchandise - "Who's that your ex boyfriend? I didn't know you were gay Mike, when did it happen?!"
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Subject: Re: Things Columbiners do Fri Oct 02, 2015 5:42 pm
First, I have breakfast. Then I shower and brush my teeth. I brush my teeth after I eat because its more logical. Then I go outside come back in, do a little bit and then..... I'm probably am not a full on columbiner, I like human behavior in general. I kind of took an interested because of a project (top secret) work. I do believe in the book "no easy answers" because both people are dead, they destroyed the tapes and most of the stuff written here is theory not fact. I don't think we will ever fully know why it happened.
I also think like the picture of the girl in trenchcoat romanticize about what Dylan and Eric were. I think that both men were very angry at the world. They're school lives don't sound great but to be honest. A lot of kids went to schools in rough areas and were bullied through schools and have not done what they did. Eric and Dylan were fantasist and sociopaths. They killed two disabled students, one for been black and killed another girl for been a christian. Their only crusade was take their anger out on the world and go out in a blaze of glory.
What people need to understand is 13 kids, that's 13 families and many more injured. That's probably over a 100 people who have been effected by what has happened.
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Subject: Re: Things Columbiners do Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:50 pm
I scratched into the science desk "R.I.P Eric and Dylan" when I was 14 and our science teacher was from Canada and she called me in to clean it off, but I couldn't because it was scratched into the desk with a key, I don't know if she even knew what it meant.. Probably, but didn't say anything. I don't consider myself a 'Columbiner' I've never really liked that word, it reminds me of the girls on Tumblr.
Eric and Dylan coats are not that expensive or hard to find, I found one in a horse riding store for $55.
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Subject: Re: Things Columbiners do Fri Oct 02, 2015 8:52 pm
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], that graffiti's on a wall in the bathroom at my local WalMart! I've seen it before and posted the picture to Tumblr!
Some girl who goes to my college is dressing as "Dylan Kitsunebold" which is basically Sexy Dylan Klebold with fox ears, tail, and facepaint.
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Subject: Re: Things Columbiners do Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:11 pm
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], I do not get all my Columbiner material off tumblr. A lot of it comes from there but by all means not all.
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.],I do realize that and have much lasting sympathy for all the families of the 15 who died at Columbine. I obviously disagree with a lot of your assessment of E &D and I'll leave it at that.
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], Columbiner is now a word for the whole community everywhere, not just tumblr. Some people reject it of course because they don't like the name but most of us have embraced it as a form of self identification and identification as part of a larger group. . It can be a very positive thing, depending on how you look at it.
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Subject: Re: Things Columbiners do Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:14 pm
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], That's awesome. I had saved it some time ago and didn't remember exactly where it had come from. I guess there are more Columbiners in your town?
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Subject: Re: Things Columbiners do Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:16 pm
snacks wrote:
First, I have breakfast. Then I shower and brush my teeth. I brush my teeth after I eat because its more logical. Then I go outside come back in, do a little bit and then..... I'm probably am not a full on columbiner, I like human behavior in general. I kind of took an interested because of a project (top secret) work. I do believe in the book "no easy answers" because both people are dead, they destroyed the tapes and most of the stuff written here is theory not fact. I don't think we will ever fully know why it happened.
I also think like the picture of the girl in trenchcoat romanticize about what Dylan and Eric were. I think that both men were very angry at the world. They're school lives don't sound great but to be honest. A lot of kids went to schools in rough areas and were bullied through schools and have not done what they did. Eric and Dylan were fantasist and sociopaths. They killed two disabled students, one for been black and killed another girl for been a christian. Their only crusade was take their anger out on the world and go out in a blaze of glory.
What people need to understand is 13 kids, that's 13 families and many more injured. That's probably over a 100 people who have been effected by what has happened.
They killed NOBODY for being Christian. The Cassie Bernall and Rachel Scott stories have been THOROUGHLY disproven.
As for 13 kids and 13 families, Eric and Dylan KILLED THEMSELVES after doing this. I lost a good friend to suicide this past July and I ASSURE you that I grieved too. I am SURE Eric's and Dylan's families and friends WERE INDEED affected, especially BECAUSE Eric and Dylan did what they did plus killed themselves.
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] apparently! Graffiti in similar handwriting was on a wall in a bathroom at my college that said "R.I.Pm REB and <<-VoDkA->>" and next to it was an arrow and, in different handwriting, "Even Satan was just a fallen angel."
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Subject: Re: Things Columbiners do Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:17 pm
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] I understand that completely, yeah I guess it can be positive to be part of this community of fellow researchers, but in every community there is those that take it too far and humiliate the others, for example i'm not a huge anime fan, but I did grow up watching those 80's mecha anime shows, and became a casual viewer of them and I do have a few shirts with the art on it, which I feel uncomfortable wearing as most of the anime fans in my town are the crazed otakus who dress up in the costumes, and think they are Japanese and dance around hugging each other, it makes me look stupid if I were to wear one of those shirts. and I guess with this community it's those tumblr girls going through a teenage phase with Eric and Dylan and taking it too far.
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] That's interesting.. the school doesn't notice? I wonder how it must feel to know others who even know who Eric and Dylan are, I guess the main problem is that i'm not in America so that's why i've never bumped into anyone who knows about them.
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Subject: Re: Things Columbiners do Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:20 pm
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] I understand that completely, yeah I guess it can be positive to be part of this community of fellow researchers, but in every community there is those that take it too far and humiliate the others, for example i'm not a huge anime fan, but I did grow up watching those 80's mecha anime shows, and became a casual viewer of them and I do have a few shirts with the art on it, which I feel uncomfortable wearing as most of the anime fans in my town are the crazed otakus who dress up in the costumes, and think they are Japanese and dance around hugging each other, it makes me look stupid if I were to wear one of those shirts. and I guess with this community it's those tumblr girls going through a teenage phase with Eric and Dylan and taking it too far.
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] That's interesting.. the school doesn't notice? I wonder how it must feel to know others who even know who Eric and Dylan are, I guess the main problem is that i'm not in America so that's why i've never bumped into anyone who knows about them.
The "girl at my college" is actually me. I hoped people would get the joke because of my avi I did NOT write the graffiti though, and I DO know other people who know who they were and are as fascinated with it as I am. It's awesome. I actually wrote a paper for my creative nonfiction writing class about how Dylan's writings made me realize everyone has good in them somewhere and that I should forgive people more easily who personally slighted me. The people in my workshop group really liked it.
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Subject: Re: Things Columbiners do Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:33 pm
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], Sorry.I guess I wasn't paying close enough attention. You are lucky to live near other Columbiners. I have a long time friend who is a semi Columbiner but I know of no others anywhere near me.
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Subject: Re: Things Columbiners do Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:38 pm
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]. It all depends on ones definition of taking it too far. I think everybody has different standards on that. To me, taking it too far means only trashing the victims or harassing their families or trying to harm others or yourself.
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Subject: Re: Things Columbiners do Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:47 pm
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Subject: Re: Things Columbiners do Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:58 pm
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Subject: Re: Things Columbiners do Fri Oct 02, 2015 10:10 pm
That's the English translation of the Russian pop song "Ya Soshla S Uma" by t.A.T.u.! That song was a hit in America as "All The Things She Said" with different lyrics. I actually learned how to read Cyrillic from reading the lyrics and listening to it. Good God, did that take me back.
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Subject: Re: Things Columbiners do Fri Oct 02, 2015 10:20 pm
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.],. Thanks for the information! I remember that song and it being popular at the time but don't remember much else about it. I enjoy learning all these facts about what I am posting.
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Subject: Re: Things Columbiners do Tue Oct 20, 2015 9:40 pm
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Subject: Re: Things Columbiners do Wed Mar 16, 2016 10:22 pm
A Columbiner's drawing of Dylan and her handcrafted replica of his earring made into a necklace.
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Subject: Re: Things Columbiners do Thu Mar 17, 2016 3:38 pm
This thread is a pretty good tutorial on the essential differences between Columbiners and Columbine researchers, to say the very least!
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Subject: Re: Things Columbiners do Sat Mar 19, 2016 3:19 am
A Columbiner's recent tattoo.Sorry there is a little butt cleavage.I don't think it counts as graphic though.
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Subject: Re: Things Columbiners do Sun Mar 20, 2016 1:28 pm
In-freakin-credible. I especially like the person whose hand has both the killers' signatures on it.
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Subject: Re: Things Columbiners do Sun Mar 20, 2016 4:15 pm
All of these seem ridiculous to me. Tattoos at such a young age are already a bad idea, but the icing on the cake is definitely the ones of killers that you idolized in your angsty teenage years. Give it time, and the Columbiners' obsession will pass and they will spend thousands of dollars over the next 5 years, trying to get them off.
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Subject: Re: Things Columbiners do Sun Mar 20, 2016 6:20 pm
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Subject: Re: Things Columbiners do Sun Mar 20, 2016 7:49 pm
All of these seem ridiculous to me. Tattoos at such a young age are already a bad idea, but the icing on the cake is definitely the ones of killers that you idolized in your angsty teenage years. Give it time, and the Columbiners' obsession will pass and they will spend thousands of dollars over the next 5 years, trying to get them off.
No offense but these are not ridiculous to them.Something usually has great meaning to someone to want to ink it on their body. I wouldn't be so quick to say they will all be trying to get rid of them either.Not all the people in the pictures are teens. Some may regret them eventually, that's true but I haven't been a teen now for over a decade and I can honestly say that I do not regret anything I've ever done to memorialize E &D.
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Subject: Re: Things Columbiners do Sun Mar 20, 2016 7:53 pm
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Subject: Re: Things Columbiners do Sun Mar 20, 2016 8:01 pm
Hopefully these kids end up with a really good job so they can afford to have these tattoos removed when they grow up and realize that Eric and Dylan were hardly Gods, that they were murderers and took the lives of innocent children.
It's funny how you can't drink until you're 21, can't rent a car until your 25 but you can make a permanent decision such as a tattoo at 18 and at 16 with a parent's consent. It's ridiculous.
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Subject: Re: Things Columbiners do Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:11 am
Totally agree [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], some of the legal age limits for things are ridiculous.
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Subject: Re: Things Columbiners do Thu Mar 24, 2016 9:47 pm
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Subject: Re: Things Columbiners do Fri Mar 25, 2016 9:36 pm
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Subject: Re: Things Columbiners do Fri Mar 25, 2016 10:01 pm
I heard of this one guy who had a waifu pillow of Dylan Klebold and he carried it around in university with a monochrome pillowcase over it for secrecy. He disappeared off the internet because his parents tried to stage an alcohol intervention, I think.
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Subject: Re: Things Columbiners do Sun Mar 27, 2016 11:41 am
I've been a low key Columbiner for 12 years and had a morbid fasciation with it since I first saw it on the UK news in 1999 when I was 8, mainly because there's a 10 year age gap between my siblings and I so there was much discussion about it when it happened (my brother as sister were upper 6th form students - seniors - at the time too.)
Has anyone seen this? The middle stanza when the talk about their inner teen fist bumping and relating to E&D really struck me, and I think it's exactly WHY so many people "relate" to E&D. It makes sense if you come at from the perspective shown here...
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Subject: Re: Things Columbiners do Sun Mar 27, 2016 8:28 pm
astrospace92 wrote:
I've been a low key Columbiner for 12 years and had a morbid fasciation with it since I first saw it on the UK news in 1999 when I was 8, mainly because there's a 10 year age gap between my siblings and I so there was much discussion about it when it happened (my brother as sister were upper 6th form students - seniors - at the time too.)
Has anyone seen this? The middle stanza when the talk about their inner teen fist bumping and relating to E&D really struck me, and I think it's exactly WHY so many people "relate" to E&D. It makes sense if you come at from the perspective shown here...
Welcome astrospace, I'm the most active Columbiner here, but there are a couple more of us.I was young when Columbine happened but I've been a Columbiner since Day 1. Although, there wasn't an umbrella term for it then like it is now. I am glad to have another Columbiner of any kind here.I wish more would come and participate on the board.
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Subject: Re: Things Columbiners do Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:02 pm
A Columbiner used to sell these necklaces but I don't know if they still do
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Subject: Re: Things Columbiners do Sat Apr 09, 2016 3:39 pm
PaintItBlack wrote:
A Columbiner used to sell these necklaces but I don't know if they still do
After all, he was a tortured soul like E&D who apparently was bullied, too. Surely he deserves to be immortalized in an artistic~deep~edgy~tumblrific~tattoo as well?
...or is he not cute enough for the E&D fangirls/fanboys?
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Subject: Re: Things Columbiners do Sun Apr 10, 2016 7:13 am
I think cho didn't have that extra flair. I think E&D is more special because they were friends and went down together. They had this suicide pact which takes lots of loyalty and trust.
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Subject: Re: Things Columbiners do Sun Apr 10, 2016 7:35 am
So do you really think that if Cho had perpetrated the Virginia Tech massacre with another guy who looked similar to him or worse than him that they would've received half the attention that E&D receive?
This is why I think so many people who admire E&D are full of shit. Like others on this forum have mentioned, if some ugly, fat, greasy neck beard teenagers had done it, I doubt they would've been glamorized anywhere near the extent that E&D are.
^Do you really think that this person would've got their silhouettes tattooed on his calves if E&D were obese?
I guess image is a lot more important than people may consciously think.
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Subject: Re: Things Columbiners do Sun Apr 10, 2016 7:52 am
Another reason why I think E&D are special is because they looked like normal teenagers from an affluent white dominant suburb and had lots of potential but they rejected it and went down a different path. That makes a lot more people wonder why???
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Subject: Re: Things Columbiners do Sun Apr 10, 2016 7:58 am
There's a difference between wondering why they did it/having interest in the case and making them out to be some kind of martyrs, worthy of tattoos, customized t-shirts, jewellery and all the other crap people make using their likeness.
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Subject: Re: Things Columbiners do Sun Apr 10, 2016 9:45 am
It's the reasoning between the why they did it that people connect with and want to make art with their likeness. I don't think it's just about looks, if it was then they prob would have gotten a tattoo of brad pitt or some shit. "Worthy of tattoos" don't think your the one to tell people what they should or shouldnt get tattoos of. Chill out.
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Subject: Re: Things Columbiners do Sun Apr 10, 2016 11:06 am
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], I think you're right.... Image is more important than people are willing to admit. I'm not saying this is why everyone is intrigued by Columbine, but it does seem to be a reason for many.
Isn't it ironic? Eric and Dylan were so distraught over their failures with females and low social status, yet in death they are practically worshipped by so many cognitively dissonant fangirls and fanboys.
Human nature is so strange. Instinct (physical attraction) speaks louder than the voice of reason.