fuckcomments

I've heard about the youtube account "fuckcomments" in relation to Adam Lanza. I am because I never really paid any attention to this after I initially heard about it. For some reason I was under the impression that despite some people's claims, the account had nothing to do with Adam. This was without even reading the majority of the comments. More recently I have revisited the comments I could find and I feel like it's very possible that this was Adam. So despite my embarrassment at admitting to this arbitrary dismissal of possible evidence and being light years behind other researchers on this subject, my curiosity has gotten the better of me by now and I have a few questions for anyone here who can answer them:

1) I read somewhere that it was Sabratha and Silkrat who originally noted the possibility of a connection for this account. If you still visit the forum [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], or if anyone else knows, how did you single out this account? Or did you not really single it out, since is was mentioned that multiple usernames were sent to Reed Coleman for further research? How did you recognize Adam when he behaves and communicates so differently from every other communication he left evidence of? Was it simply the videos he commented on or was it the content as well?

2) In "The Shooter Among Us" article by Reed Coleman he mentions a second part of the article to be published later on. I am able to access the original article through archives but I can't find the name or the link of the second part and so I can't check the archive. I would like to read this if anyone knows how to access it.

3) Coleman has since recanted his endorsement of the connection between Adam and fuckcomments. Does anyone know what changed his mind? He made a very solid case, based on the comments I saw. Is it because there are some comments with contradicting information or beliefs? Is it because he felt that he had mistakenly singled out comments which agreed with Adam's beliefs but disregarded others? I can't know because I've only seen selected comments. Was it because someone stepped forward and told Coleman that this account belonged to them? I feel like I remember seeing him say that he had jumped to conclusions or something but I find it very odd that he removed all trace of it from his website instead of putting a disclaimer at the top of the page.

4) I was only able to see the "fuckcomments" comments that Coleman posted on his website and some scraps here and there that had been posted in other places. Am I missing something here? Is there really no place to find this now? I am very interested in knowing whether someone went through all of fuckcomments' comments and whether there exists any surviving compilation of these comments. This is my main motivation for posting this thread.

So it seems that I just wrote quite a bit to say very little.

Also, if anyone has anything to say about the comments by user "fuckcomments" in relation to Adam Lanza being/not being the account owner, please share them here.

Edit: I also forgot to mention. What do you think of the fact that the comments on this channel were deleted right before Coleman published his article? Coincidence? If not, what happened?

The user doesn't sound like Adam at all. That's just my thought.

Okay, I was looking at Reed Coleman's blog again today and I spotted a comment where he answered question number 3 for me.

The answer is that he does still believe that fuckcomments is Adam's account but that his evidence is not convincing enough to conclusively prove it, so Coleman has decided he won't share the information on his blog or in his book. In case anyone cares.

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c0lgam01 says:
September 15, 2015 at 1:42 pm

Dear Reed – have you concluded that “fuckedcomments” was not Lanza at all? Just wondering because there’s no longer any info pertaining to that topic. Would appreciate to know. Thank you!

Reed Coleman says:
September 18, 2015 at 6:46 pm

Hi, I thought I had replied to this comment and now don’t see it, apologies if this is a dupe. I have not concluded anything about that account since writing about it, I just determined that it won’t be included in the book I’m writing. I do believe that the shooter used that account. I just don’t think it’s a convincing enough case to be worth all the words it takes, and I have plenty to work with without it.

Where can I see most of the available fuckcomments posts? I have only seen a couple of them in the past and the ones I viewed were too vague for me to reach any conclusions. It's probably not worth my time trying to find them sense Coleman has concluded that going into detail on it is pointless, but I would like to be able to form my own opinions on it.

abstractsmigs wrote:

Where can I see most of the available fuckcomments posts? I have only seen a couple of them in the past and the ones I viewed were too vague for me to reach any conclusions. It's probably not worth my time trying to find them sense Coleman has concluded that going into detail on it is pointless, but I would like to be able to form my own opinions on it.

I didn't realize that I never actually posted the link in this thread. I eventually found the second part of the article so here are both links. You can see many comments (though it seems that this is not all of them and the rest are likely lost forever) and you can see Coleman's analysis and comparison to what was known about Adam and why he believes that the account belongs to him.

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Hello. Sorry have not visited this forum all summer.

First of all, yes - it was us at SILKRAT that noticed "fuckcomments". He made a comment (or was it two comments? Don't rememebr now) to our school shooting movie. He was one of several users who commented, we didn't consider him special at the time though we did suspect he found the movie through the old Columbine High School Massacre Discussion Forum.

Some time later one of the SILKRAT members got in contact with the guy who runs the Sandy Hook Lighthouse website. We freely exchanged opinions with him and offered some speculations about Lanza, his possible online monikers or people who might have been in contact with him.

In these discussions, "fuckcomments" was one of the online personas that came up, I think it was Michał Wiśniewski who considered that user to be particularly suspicious.

At that time comments made by the user "fuckcomments" were still available on youtube. The guy who runs the Sandy Hook Lighthouse website made a background check (he seems to be good at that sort of thing) and found other comments made by "fuckcomments". We talked about it and given the information available we considered it almost certain that "fuckcomments" was indeed Lanza. Youtube then suspended that account and removed all his comments.

At some point later, the guy who runs the Sandy Hook Lighthouse removed everything about "fuckcomments" from his website (the stuff mentioned in the links above) because IIRC he said it would not make good material for his book and would muddle his message or something to that extent.



As for the things written by the user "fuckcomments" - they were a lot of them, made at verious points in time and aimed at different videos on youtube. Some of the opinions expressed directly contradicted other opinions expressed by that same user. I think that alone does not make it less likely that it was Lanza. Lanza was a confused and misguided individual, so self-contradictory statements from him would not surprise me.

Lanza at times made a big effort to sound very "down-to-earth" and reasonable, but at times he posted regular columbine fanboy space monkey nonsense. Probably a lot of columbine space monkeys do that, or in fatc most people do that.

Imagine if you would take some randome guys youtube comments from the span of say 3 years. I'm sure we would find some trollish comments that contradict some other ones he did in a more leisurely manner. That's internet for you.

Sabratha wrote:

Hello. Sorry have not visited this forum all summer.

First of all, yes - it was us at SILKRAT that noticed "fuckcomments". He made a comment (or was it two comments? Don't rememebr now) to our school shooting movie. He was one of several users who commented, we didn't consider him special at the time though we did suspect he found the movie through the old Columbine High School Massacre Discussion Forum.

Some time later one of the SILKRAT members got in contact with the guy who runs the Sandy Hook Lighthouse website. We freely exchanged opinions with him and offered some speculations about Lanza, his possible online monikers or people who might have been in contact with him.

In these discussions, "fuckcomments" was one of the online personas that came up, I think it was Michał Wiśniewski who considered that user to be particularly suspicious.

At that time comments made by the user "fuckcomments" were still available on youtube. The guy who runs the Sandy Hook Lighthouse website made a background check (he seems to be good at that sort of thing) and found other comments made by "fuckcomments". We talked about it and given the information available we considered it almost certain that "fuckcomments" was indeed Lanza. Youtube then suspended that account and removed all his comments.

At some point later, the guy who runs the Sandy Hook Lighthouse removed everything about "fuckcomments" from his website (the stuff mentioned in the links above) because IIRC he said it would not make good material for his book and would muddle his message or something to that extent.



As for the things written by the user "fuckcomments" - they were a lot of them, made at verious points in time and aimed at different videos on youtube. Some of the opinions expressed directly contradicted other opinions expressed by that same user. I think that alone does not make it less likely that it was Lanza. Lanza was a confused and misguided individual, so self-contradictory statements from him would not surprise me.

Lanza at times made a big effort to sound very "down-to-earth" and reasonable, but at times he posted regular columbine fanboy space monkey nonsense. Probably a lot of columbine space monkeys do that, or in fatc most people do that.

Imagine if you would take some randome guys youtube comments from the span of say 3 years. I'm sure we would find some trollish comments that contradict some other ones he did in a more leisurely manner. That's internet for you.

Thanks for the expanded explanation. It's interesting that on Youtube Lanza sometimes acted like a Columbine fanboy, considering that he tried to give the appearance that he was detached from Columbine while he was, ironically, posting on the Columbine forum. I wonder which set of comments are more representative of his feelings about it. Maybe a combination, maybe he went back and forth.

I'd love to know how those comments got deleted just as Coleman was preparing to publish the story. It seems to be too much of a coincidence to me. Putting my tin foil hat on here, but I can't help but wonder if the authorities were aware of (and monitoring?) the fuckcomments account and when someone started accessing the comments systematically, they decided to request deletion (because they didn't want any more information about Lanza getting out to the public, giving him more attention for his crime?). It may sound far-fetched but how else were those comments there for years before being deleted on the day before Coleman published his story? And if what I said is in any way close to the truth, then that essentially confirms fuckcomments as Lanza's account. This will probably drive me slightly crazy if I don't find out some day.

Maybe it's for the best that those comments are deleted but I would personally be interested in reading them. Considering the small number of people who were aware of them at the time of their deletion, I doubt this will ever happen. It's funny because Lanza himself discounted the significance of online trails of the people who do these things, because they can change over time or say false things in the first place so their words shouldn't be taken too seriously. Can't allay my curiosity though! I do wonder if he was thinking of himself when he wrote that. Knowing that some of his "jokes" were true to his feelings, you have to question just how much of what he said was self-referential.

Based on how aware he was of other shooters and the trails they left behind, I would assume a decent amount of things he said would be self-referential. At least starting from the point when he was substantially considering plans.

sscc wrote:

I'd love to know how those comments got deleted just as Coleman was preparing to publish the story. It seems to be too much of a coincidence to me. Putting my tin foil hat on here, but I can't help but wonder if the authorities were aware of (and monitoring?) the fuckcomments account and when someone started accessing the comments systematically, they decided to request deletion (because they didn't want any more information about Lanza getting out to the public, giving him more attention for his crime?). It may sound far-fetched but how else were those comments there for years before being deleted on the day before Coleman published his story? And if what I said is in any way close to the truth, then that essentially confirms fuckcomments as Lanza's account. This will probably drive me slightly crazy if I don't find out some day.

When youtube suspended the "fuckcomments" account and deleted the comments, Coleman was still planning to publish it and he was using some sort of active search to get all the comments from this user. The way he explained it to us at the time was that his search created traffic around the "fuckcomments" account, which might have prompted some youtube mod to take a look at the profile (youtube mods ignore accounts with little activity).

Now let me be clear: "Fuckcomments" did post some offensive things, threw insults at other youtube members. That alone was grounds to suspend the account and delete stuff. Youtube does it to vulgar and offensive accounts all the time. To me that is not suspicious at all.



What is suspicious to me is that Coleman later on (and after all the tedious research work he did, credit to him) would suddenly decide to remove everthing related to fuckcomments from his website and book. I don't really understand his motivations or his explanation here, just doesn't sound right.

What I can state is this:

1. I do not think there are any "authorities" involved, because first and foremost they would come for me, for Wiśniewski and for the rets of the SILKRAT team before they would come for Coleman. You go for the deep source first, only then you go after journalists - standard operating practice.
   
   
2. I am quite sure that fuckcomments was Lanza. If it was not Lanza, it was a user who was deeply interested in Columbine, knew the old super columbine massacre game and forums, knew my film, was an american pretending to be a canadian and had firearms at home. Also he went quiet around the time Lanza went quiet. In short, if not Lanza then he was in the same very small group (SCMRPG forums, "Bullet Time" fans etc) that Lanza was in. Coleman listed all the similarities and I think iuts highly unlikely that fuckcomments would not be Lanza.
   

Sabratha wrote:

When youtube suspended the "fuckcomments" account and deleted the comments, Coleman was still planning to publish it and he was using some sort of active search to get all the comments from this user. The way he explained it to us at the time was that his search created traffic around the "fuckcomments" account, which might have prompted some youtube mod to take a look at the profile (youtube mods ignore accounts with little activity).

Now let me be clear: "Fuckcomments" did post some offensive things, threw insults at other youtube members. That alone was grounds to suspend the account and delete stuff. Youtube does it to vulgar and offensive accounts all the time. To me that is not suspicious at all.

What is suspicious to me is that Coleman later on (and after all the tedious research work he did, credit to him) would suddenly decide to remove everthing related to fuckcomments from his website and book. I don't really understand his motivations or his explanation here, just doesn't sound right.

What I can state is this:

1. I do not think there are any "authorities" involved, because first and foremost they would come for me, for Wiśniewski and for the rets of the SILKRAT team before they would come for Coleman. You go for the deep source first, only then you go after journalists - standard operating practice.
   
   
2. I am quite sure that fuckcomments was Lanza. If it was not Lanza, it was a user who was deeply interested in Columbine, knew the old super columbine massacre game and forums, knew my film, was an american pretending to be a canadian and had firearms at home. Also he went quiet around the time Lanza went quiet. In short, if not Lanza then he was in the same very small group (SCMRPG forums, "Bullet Time" fans etc) that Lanza was in. Coleman listed all the similarities and I think iuts highly unlikely that fuckcomments would not be Lanza.
   

I've seen so many vulgar comments on Youtube over time that it didn't even occur to me that this is grounds for account deletion so thank you for bringing that up because it makes a lot of sense. If he was using an automatic program to search for Lanza's comments that might be why it came to the attention of moderators but it still seems strange that it would be noticed without someone actively flagging comments. I guess it was just bad luck, however it happened. Thank you for offering me a less far-fetched explanation.

I also wonder why Coleman removed the comments from his website if he still believes that they belong to Lanza, which he claims that he does. Even if he isn't planning to include them in his book he must be aware that there are other researchers and people with interest so it seems like a conscious decision to disconnect Lanza from the Youtube account or at least play down the connection. What would motivate that decision is unclear.

I understand what you are saying about the authorities coming to you first but the difference would be that Coleman is a professional with a platform to spread this information directly to the public. Assuming that the purpose would be to keep these comments from becoming public knowledge (for whatever strange reasons) then Coleman is more of a concern than you are since he is planning to publish a book and the authorities coming to anyone at all would definitively confirm that Lanza was also fuckcomments so the fewer people with that confirmation, the better it would be for their purposes. However, I agree that the authorities are likely uninvolved with this and my best guess is that Coleman simply doubts, at times, that the comments belong to Lanza and does not want to risk spreading misinformation and sullying his reputation if it were to come out that he was wrong about it.

It does seem difficult to believe that fuckcomments was not Lanza though. Everything you brought up could be indicative of another person who was highly invested in the mass murder community (although his comment on Bullet Time narrows that down a lot, as Coleman notes in his article) but for me the real clincher was the non mass murder related topics he commented on. The anorexia videos, the disdain for religion, the contamination fears, the interest in legos and old video games, the concerns about negative effects of antidepressants, the interest in owning rodents. I think Coleman did a wonderful job highlighting these comments because if there was another person other than Lanza who was interested in all of these topics and also obsessed with mass shootings, I would be extremely surprised to find out.

I guess it is not a certainty that it was him.
Its too bad we will never read a manifesto written by him like Elliot Rodger type of thing. Not that I support his manifesto or its contents It would be interesting to read like the journals.

James411 wrote:

I guess it is not a certainty that it was him.
Its too bad we will never read a manifesto written by him like Elliot Rodger type of thing. Not that I support his manifesto or its contents It would be interesting to read like the journals.

There's no manifesto but he did leave an internet trail and one major piece of that was about 300 posts on an old Columbine forum that Jenn and some other members uncovered. While he doesn't mention his planned massacre directly or talk much about his personal life, he does mention some of his gripes with society kind of like Elliot Rodger does. I can't say that these were the things he would have written in a manifesto if he had written one but if you're interested in understanding where his mind was, these posts give some hints and also some general insight into his personality.

I found something that appears to be further proof that fuckcomments is Adam Lanza.

fuckcomments commented on several videos warning people to be careful when handling bullets because they contain lead and this can lead to cancer. Lanza was preoccupied with fears about contamination so, as Reed Coleman pointed out, this may be indicative of his identity, but when re-reading the comments, I also noticed something that stood out to me.

fuckcomments wrote:

just a tip, lead pellets cause cancer, your friend keeps them in his mouth, this is a bad idea, always keep your lead pellets in the container and wash your hands before you spread any lead dust everywhere. But mainly dont put that fucking shit in your mouth . DOnt ya put it in your mouth. dont ya stuff it in your face, though it might look good to eat , no. wash hands, use hands. hands.

This phrasing seemed very odd to me (and maybe a little familiar), even considering Lanza's strange communication on this account, so I looked this phrase up and I came to this video
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If you've read about him before, you know that he liked old puppet videos. He linked to puppet related Youtube videos a few times on the forum he belonged to and according to the police, he had some puppet videos saved on his computer. This seems right up his alley and to me, it appears to be a possible piece of evidence for establishing his identity in the form of yet another obscure connection between Adam Lanza and fuckcomments' shared interests.

sscc wrote:

I found something that appears to be further proof that fuckcomments is Adam Lanza.

fuckcomments commented on several videos warning people to be careful when handling bullets because they contain lead and this can lead to cancer. Lanza was preoccupied with fears about contamination so, as Reed Coleman pointed out, this may be indicative of his identity, but when re-reading the comments, I also noticed something that stood out to me.

fuckcomments wrote:

just a tip, lead pellets cause cancer, your friend keeps them in his mouth, this is a bad idea, always keep your lead pellets in the container and wash your hands before you spread any lead dust everywhere. But mainly dont put that fucking shit in your mouth . DOnt ya put it in your mouth. dont ya stuff it in your face, though it might look good to eat , no. wash hands, use hands. hands.

This phrasing seemed very odd to me (and maybe a little familiar), even considering Lanza's strange communication on this account, so I looked this phrase up and I came to this video
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If you've read about him before, you know that he liked old puppet videos. He linked to puppet related Youtube videos a few times on the forum he belonged to and according to the police, he had some puppet videos saved on his computer. This seems right up his alley and to me, it appears to be a possible piece of evidence for establishing his identity in the form of yet another obscure connection between Adam Lanza and fuckcomments' shared interests.

This is a good find. The puppet reference really does put up a difficult to dispute argument. If fuckcomments is not Adam, then they both had very narrow and specific interests in the same things.

Yes! That was an old Canadian PSA. About...not putting things in your mouth.

I dunno. I guess it IS far-fetched to think they are two different people, considering their specific and esoteric interests. And there are so many "coincidences", enough that you probably couldn't call them coincidences. But I'm just not seeing it! The rhythm of their writing, the words used, the syntax, it's not a match. I can understand that you might have separate personas online, and perhaps modify your own behaviour to suit the environment* (which, again, actually supports the argument that fuckcomments is Lanza) but if we are to believe Smiggles was/is Lanza, I don't see Smiggles as someone that used five or six question marks in a row. Or said 'BRAAPPPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPA'. Smiggles also didn't write run-on sentences, curse frequently, or make grammatical errors all the time. And that might be the most difficult thing to change or disguise... the natural rhythm of your writing. More importantly though, why would you? Lanza certainly does not strike me as the type to want to seem less intelligent, especially in a public forum. Er, setting.

That said, if fuckcomments mentioned chimps, that might convince me.

Huh. I just realized that the way I feel about this is the way I feel about Sandy Hook in general. But that's for another day.


*When in Rome, AMIRITE???...

He disliked the Silkrat production did he not?

I seem to recall him mocking its amateurishness.

Draw_It_White wrote:

He disliked the Silkrat production did he not?

No. He recommended and referenced it on the Columbine forum several times.

Smiggles wrote:

10 August 2011 | 4:18 AM
For anyone who doesn't know, Sabratha (a member who used to post here) was part of a
group which created an excellent school shooting movie.
[Bullet Time with English subtitles.]
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Smiggles wrote:

26 October 2011 | 4:56 PM
This reminds me of Sabratha's Bullet Time.
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More of you really should see it. I think it's a lot better than Zero Day.
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Smiggles wrote:

28 February 2012 | 7:45 AM
"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=De-tIflr4E0&t=7m50s
There have been many that aren't on that list, although I'm not very familiar with them. I
think I remember this having a lot listed:
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There were two teenagers who were arrested after one of them left their journal in a
McDonald's, as memorialized by Sabratha's Bullet Time.
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One of them was caught a second time a couple years later with another student."

Smiggles wrote:

28 February 2012 | 12:51 PM
...And since 1999, there has been an increase in foreign school massacres committed
in countries where, as Sabratha's Bullet Time phrases it, there isn't the ""operational
history"" of Columbine...

He was definitely a fan. If fuckcomments was him, then I think his one problem with it was that he would have preferred the ending to be more explosive. In the actual film, I don't think any violence at all is explicitly shown.

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I find it strange adam would like cannibal corpse

Ldude wrote:

What about that is strange to you? It didn't seem all that odd to me given his extensive interest in violence and pedophilia, as well as reports of his mother finding pictures of gore that he had printed from the Internet. Do you mean that you perceive his musical taste differently, or is it a matter of content?

Well he was a big fan of the dickies and flogging Molly he also liked DDR and hamster videos.
Also stood there in he's slacks and shirt it seems strange too imagine him listening too it too be honest.

Smiggles94 wrote:

Ldude wrote:

What about that is strange to you? It didn't seem all that odd to me given his extensive interest in violence and pedophilia, as well as reports of his mother finding pictures of gore that he had printed from the Internet. Do you mean that you perceive his musical taste differently, or is it a matter of content?

Well he was a big fan of the dickies and flogging Molly he also liked DDR and hamster videos.
Also stood there in he's slacks and shirt it seems strange too imagine him listening too it too be honest.

I can understand why you would say this but I agree with Ldude. Lanza had peculiar taste in media, a certain fascination with morbidity and violence and gave hints of a dark sense of humor. Putting that together, I can see it being something he enjoyed for the novelty, if not for the music itself.

We know for certain thay he collected movies that depicted mass shootings and songs about school shootings. I am still not convinced that fuckcomments was Lanza but I couldn't rule it out on the basis of the Cannibal Corpse playlist. Given that he murdered two dozen people, I would say that there was more to his personality than hamsters and DDR and that appearances can be deceiving.

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SaucyJimmy wrote:

I don't believe it was Adam, simply due to the fact that Adam paid very close attention to grammar and syntax, whereas 'fuckcomments' does not at all. If it was him, the grammatical and syntactic mistakes would have been made on purpose, perhaps to develop a persona.

Thanks for commenting. I'm still interested in what others have to say about this because I have not been able to convince myself yet. Your remark is the main reason that I had initially dismissed fuckcomments without further consideration. Even if we assume that it's an attempt to hide his real identity, which is what Coleman suggested to explain the discrepancies, this introduces another problem because it means that we cannot discern which comments reflect his reality and which might be part of the act. That reduces the usefulness of the information contained in the posts anyway.

My biggest issue is that the surviving comments may be somewhat cherry-picked, meaning that the case is only as convincing as it is because he looked for proof that it was Adam. We can't know which comments he ignored, at this point. Yes, it comes across as though this person shared many of Adam's eccentric interests but there is a possibility that there were dozens more comments on other niche subjects which Adam had no interest in because fuckcomments was simply a prolific YouTube commenter. The inclusion of posts in the article that were exclusively intended to support his case means that we can't determine whether most of these subjects were of particular interest or just passing comments among hundreds of random videos that this person viewed. There are many opinions expressed that seem to stack up but there are also some comments that could seem out of place, given Adam's point of view. I also agree with the poster who stated that the lack of comments on a single video about primates is a strange development if this was Adam. Maybe he saved those comments (and possibly some comments about pedophilia) for a "real" account but then I  would much rather read those comments because they would be more likely to represent his true beliefs!

It still drives me a bit crazy not knowing for sure but as I said, even if it were confirmed that this was Adam, it would be confirmed that he was pretending to be someone else as well, meaning that the opinions expressed and information revealed could be contrary to his actual feelings at times. We would have no way to sort that out without using existing evidence to corroborate, so the information is of limited use, even if it is accurate.

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yo! old thread, but the topic was raised to me the other day and i thought i'd chime in with my thoughts.

i personally have always been absolutely convinced that 'fuckcomments' is NOT Adam. the writing style is completely different. Adam’s confirmed writing has a consistent style — syntax, grammar, spelling, punctuation, tone. obviously tone changes with mood, but not to that extent.

all the grammatical errors in the ‘fuckcomments’ posts would have had to have been made deliberately. i don’t understand why Adam would go to such lengths to alter/disguise his writing style. i mean, it’s possible he constructed an entirely fake persona, but i don’t see why he would. the subject matter is so similar, so why the need? i don’t know why Adam would choose to deliberately present himself as less intelligent. it doesn’t seem consistent with his character.

i agree there are some compelling similarities in the content of the posts, but not enough to convince me. the differences are too huge. ranting about death metal, over-the-top swearing, excessive exclamation/question marks, the bravado… it’s a completely different personality. i don’t believe it’s him.

I dont even know why people think fuckcomments was adam in the first place.

Krieg wrote:

I dont even know why people think fuckcomments was adam in the first place.

Reed Coleman made the case for it on his blog but has since recanted it (or at least, made the decision not to use it as material for his book as it can't be verified). there are certainly many common interests (not just guns and mass murder, but also gaming and lego). there are some weird coincidences too, like Smiggles making a comment about a certain topic around the same time as 'fuckcomments'. but coincidence is all it is, in my opinion. there's no way this hot-headed, full-of-bravado, at times semi-literate troll is Smiggles, haha.

Krieg wrote:

I dont even know why people think fuckcomments was adam in the first place.

Read the earliest posts in this thread, especially from Sabratha.

I can't deny that there are a lot of proofs that fuckcomments was Adam Lanza, but it still feels weird to think about it when you compare the language he used on his posts on YouTube and the one he used on the Columbine forum.
It's so much different !

Well, I think I wrote almost the whole story in my comments here, however if anyone wants to know more -feel free to ask while I'm still here.

Sabratha wrote:

Well, I think I wrote almost the whole story in my comments here, however if anyone wants to know more -feel free to ask while I'm still here.

I would be interested in knowing your opinion in the language he used on the forum and in the call at the radio station and the language he used on his YouTube comments.
On the forum his language and grammar are much more refined than in the comments, why do you think is so ?

CALU wrote:

Sabratha wrote:

Well, I think I wrote almost the whole story in my comments here, however if anyone wants to know more -feel free to ask while I'm still here.

I would be interested in knowing your opinion in the language he used on the forum and in the call at the radio station and the language he used on his YouTube comments.
On the forum his language and grammar are much more refined than in the comments, why do you think is so?

In my opinion Lanza tried very, very hard on the forums to seem both normal and to avoid getting banned or drawing undue attention to himself. Fuckcomments felt pretty much invulnerable on youtube. I do not think the lack of openly violent opinions or vulgar language on the Columbine forums disqualifies Smiggles as Fuckcomments.
Columbine forums on average seem to promote a cool, level-headed and calm approach. I myself am probably more blunt in some places around the net than here.

It has to be said that Fuckcomments was often more blunt, more vulgar and more in-your-face that Smiggles. But this was not always the case and there's posts where fuckcomments appears subdued and even expresses sympathy for people and animals in a few cases.
Overall what struck me is that posts by Fuckcomments tend to be radiclaly different than other posts by the same Fuckcomments. He does not present a coherent worldview and indeed often seems to contradict what he wrote elsewhere.

As for the grammar - I do not have an opinion. The differences in grammar are more important, but not being a native English speaker I'm probably not the best person to judge.

Sabratha wrote:

CALU wrote:

Sabratha wrote:

Well, I think I wrote almost the whole story in my comments here, however if anyone wants to know more -feel free to ask while I'm still here.

I would be interested in knowing your opinion in the language he used on the forum and in the call at the radio station and the language he used on his YouTube comments.
On the forum his language and grammar are much more refined than in the comments, why do you think is so?

In my opinion Lanza tried very, very hard on the forums to seem both normal and to avoid getting banned or drawing undue attention to himself. Fuckcomments felt pretty much invulnerable on youtube. I do not think the lack of openly violent opinions or vulgar language on the Columbine forums disqualifies Smiggles as Fuckcomments.
Columbine forums on average seem to promote a cool, level-headed and calm approach. I myself am probably more blunt in some places around the net than here.

It has to be said that Fuckcomments was often more blunt, more vulgar and more in-your-face that Smiggles. But this was not always the case and there's posts where fuckcomments appears subdued and even expresses sympathy for people and animals in a few cases.
Overall what struck me is that posts by Fuckcomments tend to be radiclaly different than other posts by the same Fuckcomments. He does not present a coherent worldview and indeed often seems to contradict what he wrote elsewhere.

As for the grammar - I do not have an opinion. The differences in grammar are more important, but not being a native English speaker I'm probably not the best person to judge.

If Lanza was psychotic or atleast neurotic, I wouldn't be too much surprised by Lanza's change of world view from a comment to the other.
The interesting thing is the difference in language there.
Some of the comments of fuckcomments were totally chaotic, others were more similar to the comments of Lanza on the forum.
I find this pretty interesting.
Maybe Lanza simply cared less about how well a comment on YT is written (So the name fuckcomments would make more sense) or might have posted comments and responses during mood swings.

Sabratha wrote:

Columbine forums on average seem to promote a cool, level-headed and calm approach.

I think part of it is a defense mechanism, a way to guard against the obvious crazies running around on the net.

CALU wrote:

Maybe Lanza simply cared less about how well a comment on YT is written (So the name fuckcomments would make more sense) or might have posted comments and responses during mood swings.

Well on the forums he knew there would be people who read multiple posts that he wrote. Also he knew that people here were aware of copycats and we had threads in the vein of: "What would you do if someone here turned out to be a shooter".

On the forums I think Lanza wanted to appear smart, controlled and in no way did he want to appear dangerous, suicidal or even angry. In some sense, I think he cared about how people think of him on the forums. He shared with the forums some of his interests and obsessions which were irrelevant to school shootings and related issues. LEGO or old videogames - In his case I think sharing these topics was a sign he truested the forum members (and possibly wanted to be trusted).

People mostly ignored or paid little attention to those sort of discussions he started. I wonder if as a whole he felt ignored at the forums.

On YT? You don't expect the same person to go all over your whole YT post history and read in sucession all your posts. You write with the idea that the same people will read only your comments under a said YT video and not those under different videos. There was no need for Lanza (or anyone else) to care about presenting a coherent worldview on YT.

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The links to coleman's archived pages seem to not be working, do they work for you guys?

I checked them and it looks like it works. Is there a specific problem you're having?

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The links to coleman's archived pages seem to not be working, do they work for you guys?

I checked them and it looks like it works. Is there a specific problem you're having?

Huh, it works now but it wasn't working before for some reason, the problem was it kept loading and loading without the page ever completely loading.

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The links to coleman's archived pages seem to not be working, do they work for you guys?

I checked them and it looks like it works. Is there a specific problem you're having?

Huh, it works now but it wasn't working before for some reason, the problem was it kept loading and loading without the page ever completely loading.

Sometimes the archive tool does that. I'm not sure why, but don't panic if it does, because it'll almost always work again later.

I thought it might be interesting to mention that although I could never come to a solid conclusion whether I believed fuckcomments was Adam or not, that when his instant messaging chatlogs were released earlier this year, the ones with 16bitelder or whatever his name was... He did not come across in those conversations as I imagined at all, and completely different to how he typed on internet forums... And those chat logs were conclusively proven to be Adam, as were the forum posts. It's just uncertain whether he was "fuckcomments" on YouTube.

We know that ever since Adam was young he was very creative and imaginative, coming up with all kinds of stories and characters, role playing in WoW, basically escaping into a fantasy world. That might make me lean more towards believing that Adam could just create multiple personas online. It's possible.

One comment I vaguely remember reading from fuckcomments on Sandy Hook Lighthouse years ago was something about how a girl would be beautiful at any size/weight. I can't remember exactly how it was worded, but I highly doubt Adam would say that given his probable anorexic nature.

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I thought it might be interesting to mention that although I could never come to a solid conclusion whether I believed fuckcomments was Adam or not, that when his instant messaging chatlogs were released earlier this year, the ones with 16bitelder or whatever his name was... He did not come across in those conversations as I imagined at all, and completely different to how he typed on internet forums... And those chat logs were conclusively proven to be Adam, as were the forum posts. It's just uncertain whether he was "fuckcomments" on YouTube.

We know that ever since Adam was young he was very creative and imaginative, coming up with all kinds of stories and characters, role playing in WoW, basically escaping into a fantasy world. That might make me lean more towards believing that Adam could just create multiple personas online. It's possible.

One comment I vaguely remember reading from fuckcomments on Sandy Hook Lighthouse years ago was something about how a girl would be beautiful at any size/weight. I can't remember exactly how it was worded, but I highly doubt Adam would say that given his probable anorexic nature.

The only way you can believe fuckcomments isn't Adam is if you ignore the totality of the evidence, fuckcomments is Adam. Read the archived articles, they leave no doubt that fuckcomments is adam.

Spanky wrote:

temporarylifeform wrote:

I thought it might be interesting to mention that although I could never come to a solid conclusion whether I believed fuckcomments was Adam or not, that when his instant messaging chatlogs were released earlier this year, the ones with 16bitelder or whatever his name was... He did not come across in those conversations as I imagined at all, and completely different to how he typed on internet forums... And those chat logs were conclusively proven to be Adam, as were the forum posts. It's just uncertain whether he was "fuckcomments" on YouTube.

We know that ever since Adam was young he was very creative and imaginative, coming up with all kinds of stories and characters, role playing in WoW, basically escaping into a fantasy world. That might make me lean more towards believing that Adam could just create multiple personas online. It's possible.

One comment I vaguely remember reading from fuckcomments on Sandy Hook Lighthouse years ago was something about how a girl would be beautiful at any size/weight. I can't remember exactly how it was worded, but I highly doubt Adam would say that given his probable anorexic nature.

The only way you can believe fuckcomments isn't Adam is if you ignore the totality of the evidence, fuckcomments is Adam. Read the archived articles, they leave no doubt that fuckcomments is adam.

I read Reed Coleman's case for Adam being fuckcomments multiple times years ago when it was new. I don't deny it was a convincing argument, I just deny that it conclusively proves anything. If you re-read my previous comment you'll see I do lean more towards believing it is in fact him.

When will Adam Lanza prerequisite essay be released ???

For someone as ocd and meticulous as Lanza, I didn’t expect him to write like that, especially after he ranted about how his fellow clan members talked

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G4145 wrote:

anonman wrote:

For someone as OCD and meticulous as Lanza, I didn’t expect him to write like that, especially after he ranted about how his fellow clan members talked.

It really seems as though FuckComments was him for a couple of reasons; commenting on the same videos that Adam viewed or linked to elsewhere and also viewing them at around the same time that Adam had done.

But then again, I can't see Adam writing so childishly or especially disclosing that he had wanted to carry out a shooting previously. I can't see him as being that incautious and careless.

I agree that it's him, the writing is just such a contrast to his other writings.

In all of his other accounts, his writing style was relatively eloquent and consistent (across SBB, Wikipedia, and gaming / gun forums.) Typos were minimal, profanity was rare, and the blatant edginess of fuckcomments was definitely not present. Even if he obscured his identity across sites with different usernames, he didn't change his personality. Even in documents on his computer he didn't mean for anyone but him to read, there was none of fuckcomment's edginess and sloppiness.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. If fuckcomments talked about chimps or chimp culture, I would be convinced, but the evidence as is just isn't enough. If I had to guess, it was probably someone on Shocked Beyond Belief who occassionally followed Adam's links.

Out of the millions and millions of people online, how many, by sheer coincidence, have similar enough browsing habits to yours that people can make a good case that they are you? Probably a lot, and if you had the whole world's eye turned on you the way Adam did, no doubt some would be uncovered.

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This has been a long and detailed analysis of the user fuckcomments’s account activity. In summary, any case being made that this is not Adam Lanza would be in the unfortunate position of arguing that not one, but two different people displayed all of these traits:
owns a shotgun
owns an Ar-15
owns a Ruger rifle
interested in shooting out safety glass
familiar with contents of shotgun shells
preoccupation with women’s posture
views women as selfish
overtly planning a school shooting
fears connection between anti-depressants and violence
prescribed Celexa, and only Celexa, which they did not comply with
interest in Anorexia
preoccupation with connecting violence and children
obsession with war (especially WW2 from a young age)
obsessively plays classic video games
is “addicted” to violent video games
detailed knowledge of all school shooters
viewed Asa Coon security camera footage
listened to Kip Kinkel’s audio confession
special interest in Robert Hawkins
special interest in Steven Kazmierczak
autism
Asperger’s Syndrome (specifically the rejection of a diagnosis of it)
hitting one’s head repeatedly in a seated position as a young age
interest in the phenomenon of hang-firing (on the same day)
likes Legos, especially Lego-based video games
illegally downloads video games
uses an NES emulator
plays “school shooting” video games
was a registered user at Super Columbine Massacre RPG Discussion forum
watched the “Nobody Thinks About Me” video (exact same URL)
knows “virtuaman”
finds smiling to be impossible to interpret
has seen the school shooting films “DUCK: the Carbine High Massacre” and “Elephant”
taste for obscure, violent horror movies
downloaded real-life gore from the internet
has read the 11,000 page official report on Columbine
“The Killing of America”
“Bullet Time”
interest in pedophilia and reputation as a pedophile
obsession with religion (despite believing it to be “illogical”)
connect mental illness with the specific phrase “has the devil in him/her”
terming school shootings a “revolution”
theorizes that the statistical “peak” of school shootings will be seen in Europe
appreciation of Uwe Boll films
fear of contamination
frequently imagines owning or interacting with rodents
ceases existing sometime in 2012

dyonqqr wrote:

If I had to guess, it was probably someone on Shocked Beyond Belief who occassionally followed Adam's links.

This does sound like a pretty plausible explanation. But I simply can't get over a few hang-ups. Namely:

Maboroshi wrote:

prescribed Celexa, and only Celexa, which they did not comply with
interest in Anorexia
frequently imagines owning or interacting with rodents
ceases existing sometime in 2012

Everything else could be conceivably waved away as coincidences or the logical end result of a particular edgy troll who liked to browse SCPMRPG and occasionally read what Adam posted about. After all, there were no shortage of edgy, mentally ill troll types on the old forums. But these four points feel too noteworthy to be mere coincidence.

That's interesting information. I don't really know what to make of it, so I hope you don't mind if I kind of spew my thoughts out. I'm still not an enthusiastic believer, but I now defintely understand why people believe it

To play devil's advocate, I could say that most of those points boil down to "obsessed with mass murder," "autistic / diagnosed mental illness," and "extremely online," and that users with these three traits would eventually tick off most of the boxes on that list. Fuckcomments being known to use SCMRPG could support the theory that it was another user who interacted heavily with Adam's links. If I really wanted to try to poke holes in the theory, I could say that that list only shows their similarities, not their differences (ex. fuckcomment's lack of interest in chimps) and that such a list of differences would be just as convincing in the other direction.

On the other hand, I understand why people would associate the two as the same person. If it is Adam though, why the sudden shift in personality and language? It's hard to say the youtube comments are the "real Adam" in an unrestrained environment, as the documents on his computer hardly resemble them. Was he trying to fit in to the caustic youtube comments? Was it just more covering of his digital tracks?

Then again, his whole existence was a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma, and I don't think he understood himself entirely, so I don't know why I try to.

QuestionMark wrote:

Everything else could be conceivably waved away as coincidences or the logical end result of a particular edgy troll who liked to browse SCPMRPG and occasionally read what Adam posted about. After all, there were no shortage of edgy, mentally ill troll types on the old forums. But these four points feel too noteworthy to be mere coincidence.

Couldn't have said it better myself. It's not something I can quite brush off.

One of the most strange things is that Adam claimed to have mice while he actually never had them. Why mice and not his beloved hamsters?