Elliot Rodger and Eric and Dylan?

I was wondering if anyone knew, did Elliot Rodger know about Columbine and maybe got the inspiration to go on a shooting spree from Eric and Dylan?

Since it has been widely publicized I am sure he knew about it. He did not mention it at all in any of his writings or anything. I think his shooting was purely about himself and how he perceived women as treating him. He had jealousy for those with girlfriends and wanted to punish them and the "pretty girls"

Lizpuff wrote:

Since it has been widely publicized I am sure he knew about it.  He did not mention it at all in any of his writings or anything.  I think his shooting was purely about himself and how he perceived women as treating him.  He had jealousy for those with girlfriends and wanted to punish them and the "pretty girls"

He had it so good, I would've killed to have his life, not literally of course lol. He seemed like a spoiled little brat. I don't have a bad life now, but anyone would love the hollywood life.

bradt93 wrote:

Lizpuff wrote:

Since it has been widely publicized I am sure he knew about it.  He did not mention it at all in any of his writings or anything.  I think his shooting was purely about himself and how he perceived women as treating him.  He had jealousy for those with girlfriends and wanted to punish them and the "pretty girls"

He had it so good, I would've killed to have his life, not literally of course lol. He seemed like a spoiled little brat. I don't have a bad life now, but anyone would love the hollywood life.

I don't know how much you know about the case but the more I find out about him the more I have to shake my head. He wanted everyone to come to him. Begging him to sleep with them...only if you were a pretty blonde though.... he walked the streets alone acting all creepy

He should've at least tried to approach women, I mean do most women expect the guy to approach them?

I think so yes

Most shooters nowadays either are inspired from Columbine or at least know what went down. So I wouldn't be surprised if Elliot fell under both categories, albeit believing himself to accomplish something even greater than E&D did.

I think he came up with his idea for a "Day of Retribution" on his own but he definitely read about other acts of mass murder. However, Columbine wasn't specifically mentioned and I don't think he drew any particular inspiration from Eric and Dylan. There's some information about this in another thread and you can read the report on the shooting through the link posted by Ldude.

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I remember watching his videos and being almost embarrassed for him. His acting was AWFUL and those fake little snickers irked me. He always kept his head at a certain angle, or at least it seemed that way to me, so I suppose that was his "good side". There was nothing genuine in those videos, it was all scripted almost.

He wasn't unattractive at all, but he must have given off some kind of vibe that repelled girls. I've met people that give off strange vibes and I steer clear. I wonder how he acted prior to the shootings in social settings. I read about the party where he broke his ankle and it seemed, at least on that occasion, he engaged in odd behavior.

It just goes to show you that money doesn't buy happiness, all the access to whatever luxury your heart desires doesn't quell murderous urges.

Tomb wrote:

I remember watching his videos and being almost embarrassed for him. His acting was AWFUL and those fake little snickers irked me. He always kept his head at a certain angle, or at least it seemed that way to me, so I suppose that was his "good side". There was nothing genuine in those videos, it was all scripted almost.

He wasn't unattractive at all, but he must have given off some kind of vibe that repelled girls. I've met people that give off strange vibes and I steer clear. I wonder how he acted prior to the shootings in social settings. I read about the party where he broke his ankle and it seemed, at least on that occasion, he engaged in odd behavior.

It just goes to show you that money doesn't buy happiness, all the access to whatever luxury your heart desires doesn't quell murderous urges.

People that knew him said he was just strange. This is getting OT but, they said he was quiet. And not like shy quiet...well yes shy quiet lol but weirdly quiet. Like you could ask him a direct question and he wouldn't answer. I think he was very socially inept. He thought he was better than everyone else and everyone should bow down to him. Watching his vids creeps me out

I was quite surprised at how extensively he spoke about being a virgin and dying a virgin. That's was always peculiar to me, when his intentions all along was for the world to see his videos and read his manifesto. Even Cho utilized the services of an escort. Hell, ole Cho even attempted, in his own sick and twisted way, to hit on girls.

I can see him typing up a script, rehearsing it and then making those videos. I bet he really did give girls a weird feeling.

Tomb wrote:

I was quite surprised at how extensively he spoke about being a virgin and dying a virgin. That's was always peculiar to me, when his intentions all along was for the world to see his videos and read his manifesto. Even Cho utilized the services of an escort. Hell, ole Cho even attempted, in his own sick and twisted way, to hit on girls.

I can see him typing up a script, rehearsing it and then making those videos. I bet he really did give girls a weird feeling.

His father says he offered to bring him to Vegas and pay for an escort for him. Elliot declined.

Lizpuff wrote:

Tomb wrote:

I was quite surprised at how extensively he spoke about being a virgin and dying a virgin. That's was always peculiar to me, when his intentions all along was for the world to see his videos and read his manifesto. Even Cho utilized the services of an escort. Hell, ole Cho even attempted, in his own sick and twisted way, to hit on girls.

I can see him typing up a script, rehearsing it and then making those videos. I bet he really did give girls a weird feeling.

His father says he offered to bring him to Vegas and pay for an escort for him.  Elliot declined.

Girl, you are KIDDING, right?!?!? Omg, how unbelievably f-ed up is THAT? How does that conversation even START? "Heya, son, how bout you and I take a trip to Vegas and I'll pay so you can get some? Don't worry, I'll be right there helping you." Lol, ewwwwww

Tomb wrote:

Lizpuff wrote:

Tomb wrote:

I was quite surprised at how extensively he spoke about being a virgin and dying a virgin. That's was always peculiar to me, when his intentions all along was for the world to see his videos and read his manifesto. Even Cho utilized the services of an escort. Hell, ole Cho even attempted, in his own sick and twisted way, to hit on girls.

I can see him typing up a script, rehearsing it and then making those videos. I bet he really did give girls a weird feeling.

His father says he offered to bring him to Vegas and pay for an escort for him.  Elliot declined.

Girl, you are KIDDING, right?!?!? Omg, how unbelievably f-ed up is THAT? How does that conversation even START? "Heya, son, how bout you and I take a trip to Vegas and I'll pay so you can get some? Don't worry, I'll be right there helping you." Lol, ewwwwww

Yea. Not only did he have that conversation with him but after the massacre he repeated it in a nationwide interview. Embarrassing for a father

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Tomb wrote:

I remember watching his videos and being almost embarrassed for him. His acting was AWFUL and those fake little snickers irked me. He always kept his head at a certain angle, or at least it seemed that way to me, so I suppose that was his "good side". There was nothing genuine in those videos, it was all scripted almost.

It seems he doesn't have many worshipers because he made such a fool of himself in those videos. People sort of look down on him. I have a feeling the basement tapes will be similar. There's a good chance E&D come across as petulant children and much of their mystique will evaporate. Instead, we have that infamous photo of them in the commons looking like legit soldiers. Dylan looks like a total badass.

runreilly wrote:

Lizpuff wrote:

Tomb wrote:

I remember watching his videos and being almost embarrassed for him. His acting was AWFUL and those fake little snickers irked me. He always kept his head at a certain angle, or at least it seemed that way to me, so I suppose that was his "good side". There was nothing genuine in those videos, it was all scripted almost.

It seems he doesn't have many worshipers because he made such a fool of himself in those videos.  People sort of look down on him.  I have a feeling the basement tapes will be similar.  There's a good chance E&D come across as petulant children and much of their mystique will evaporate.  Instead, we have that infamous photo of them in the commons looking like legit soldiers.  Dylan looks like a total badass.

He really did fade into oblivion, didn't he? I watched his videos and read his manifesto, but there was the media saturation for awhile and then POOF! Gone, not mentioned. Lol for some reason, the video that is stuck in my mind is the one where he's driving and he starts moving the camera and kinda twitching, like he's dancing. I'm sorry, but I'm laughing about that scene.

He wasn't at all commanding, dominant, authoritative, angry or genuine in those videos. Really not much emotion, just bad acting. I'm going to have to find that clip of him twitching/dancing.

Sometimes I can relate to Elliot Rodger scary enough, because I can't relate to women in real life. I too have aspergers and this disorder makes it difficult for me to socialize.I know you have to approach women that you're interested in, but I can't bring myself to do that, because I also don't want to be hurt or rejected. So, I'm going to play it safe and probably get an escort to satisfy my sexual needs and that's all I need. Relationships are just too difficult and I don't want to put in the work and effort.

bradt93 wrote:

I was wondering if anyone knew, did Elliot Rodger know about Columbine and maybe got the inspiration to go on a shooting spree from Eric and Dylan?

Probably.

bradt93 wrote:

Sometimes I can relate to Elliot Rodger scary enough, because I can't relate to women in real life. I too have aspergers and this disorder makes it difficult for me to socialize.I know you have to approach women that you're interested in, but I can't bring myself to do that, because I also don't want to be hurt or rejected. So, I'm going to play it safe and probably get an escort to satisfy my sexual needs and that's all I need. Relationships are just too difficult and I don't want to put in the work and effort.

The only way you can relate to Elliot Rodger is if feel you're more entitled than everyone else to having a relationship with someone to the point you want to pick up a gun and shoot a bunch of people to prove your point.

Elliot Rodger had everything he could have ever wanted except a relationship (which may have happened for him eventually given how famous he was).

We don't know where he got his inspiration from.

Personally, I don't think he got any inspiration from Columbine or Eric/Dylan

Ivan wrote:

bradt93 wrote:

Sometimes I can relate to Elliot Rodger scary enough, because I can't relate to women in real life. I too have aspergers and this disorder makes it difficult for me to socialize.I know you have to approach women that you're interested in, but I can't bring myself to do that, because I also don't want to be hurt or rejected. So, I'm going to play it safe and probably get an escort to satisfy my sexual needs and that's all I need. Relationships are just too difficult and I don't want to put in the work and effort.

The only way you can relate to Elliot Rodger is if feel you're more entitled than everyone else to having a relationship with someone to the point you want to pick up a gun and shoot a bunch of people to prove your point.

Elliot Rodger had everything he could have ever wanted except a relationship (which may have happened for him eventually given how famous he was).

No, not that of course, just having trouble communicating with women, because I can't figure them out lol.

bradt93 wrote:

Sometimes I can relate to Elliot Rodger scary enough, because I can't relate to women in real life. I too have aspergers and this disorder makes it difficult for me to socialize.I know you have to approach women that you're interested in, but I can't bring myself to do that, because I also don't want to be hurt or rejected. So, I'm going to play it safe and probably get an escort to satisfy my sexual needs and that's all I need. Relationships are just too difficult and I don't want to put in the work and effort.

I think you're already miles ahead of him based on this post. You're actually capable of honest and humble self reflection, he wasn't. He exhibited narcissism that would make Trump blush. You both having Aspergers might be as inconsequential as both having brown hair or being right handed.

bradt93 wrote:

I'm going to play it safe and probably get an escort to satisfy my sexual needs and that's all I need.

This is becoming widely pursued by all types of people, even those who can easily find a partner and settle down. Research "MGTOW" in the West and "Herbivore Men" in Japan for quick examples. Serious, devoted romantic relationships are great for some, but they invariably require effort and curtail freedom.

bradt93 wrote:

Sometimes I can relate to Elliot Rodger scary enough, because I can't relate to women in real life. I too have aspergers and this disorder makes it difficult for me to socialize.I know you have to approach women that you're interested in, but I can't bring myself to do that, because I also don't want to be hurt or rejected. So, I'm going to play it safe and probably get an escort to satisfy my sexual needs and that's all I need. Relationships are just too difficult and I don't want to put in the work and effort.

OT but this is something I do think about from time to time. Most of the time men are the ones "socially required" to go up to women and strike up conversations. Women in general do not do this. I can totally get the feelings of hurt or rejection if that other person isn't into you. Approaching someone can be terrifying.

bradt93 wrote:

Ivan wrote:

bradt93 wrote:

Sometimes I can relate to Elliot Rodger scary enough, because I can't relate to women in real life. I too have aspergers and this disorder makes it difficult for me to socialize.I know you have to approach women that you're interested in, but I can't bring myself to do that, because I also don't want to be hurt or rejected. So, I'm going to play it safe and probably get an escort to satisfy my sexual needs and that's all I need. Relationships are just too difficult and I don't want to put in the work and effort.

The only way you can relate to Elliot Rodger is if feel you're more entitled than everyone else to having a relationship with someone to the point you want to pick up a gun and shoot a bunch of people to prove your point.

Elliot Rodger had everything he could have ever wanted except a relationship (which may have happened for him eventually given how famous he was).

No, not that of course, just having trouble communicating with women, because I can't figure them out lol.

But it's not like Elliot just had trouble communicating with women, he felt he was superior to other men and that they should approach him at will. He was delusional and needed psychiatric help he never received.

Lizpuff wrote:

bradt93 wrote:

Sometimes I can relate to Elliot Rodger scary enough, because I can't relate to women in real life. I too have aspergers and this disorder makes it difficult for me to socialize.I know you have to approach women that you're interested in, but I can't bring myself to do that, because I also don't want to be hurt or rejected. So, I'm going to play it safe and probably get an escort to satisfy my sexual needs and that's all I need. Relationships are just too difficult and I don't want to put in the work and effort.

OT but this is something I do think about from time to time.  Most of the time men are the ones "socially required" to go up to women and strike up conversations.  Women in general do not do this.  I can totally get the feelings of hurt or rejection if that other person isn't into you.  Approaching someone can be terrifying.

Why don't women approach men, is it because they want to know if the man is interested in them or not or something like that?

I mean I'm a blonde haired blue eyed guy and muscular. I think I'm very cute, I don't understand the problem, I just can't socialize with women, it's so hard.

bradt93 wrote:

Lizpuff wrote:

bradt93 wrote:

Sometimes I can relate to Elliot Rodger scary enough, because I can't relate to women in real life. I too have aspergers and this disorder makes it difficult for me to socialize.I know you have to approach women that you're interested in, but I can't bring myself to do that, because I also don't want to be hurt or rejected. So, I'm going to play it safe and probably get an escort to satisfy my sexual needs and that's all I need. Relationships are just too difficult and I don't want to put in the work and effort.

OT but this is something I do think about from time to time.  Most of the time men are the ones "socially required" to go up to women and strike up conversations.  Women in general do not do this.  I can totally get the feelings of hurt or rejection if that other person isn't into you.  Approaching someone can be terrifying.

Why don't women approach men, is it because they want to know if the man is interested in them or not or something like that?

Hard to say. I think because of the past where men were seen as the dominant one women have mostly just relied on men to ask them out. I am not one of those women. I made the first move on my husband actually lol. But I know how hurt I would be by a rejection....I think women think about that too.

Ivan wrote:

He was delusional and needed psychiatric help he never received.

This is interesting because it seems he would have refused help.

bradt93 wrote:

Ivan wrote:

bradt93 wrote:

Sometimes I can relate to Elliot Rodger scary enough, because I can't relate to women in real life. I too have aspergers and this disorder makes it difficult for me to socialize.I know you have to approach women that you're interested in, but I can't bring myself to do that, because I also don't want to be hurt or rejected. So, I'm going to play it safe and probably get an escort to satisfy my sexual needs and that's all I need. Relationships are just too difficult and I don't want to put in the work and effort.

The only way you can relate to Elliot Rodger is if feel you're more entitled than everyone else to having a relationship with someone to the point you want to pick up a gun and shoot a bunch of people to prove your point.

Elliot Rodger had everything he could have ever wanted except a relationship (which may have happened for him eventually given how famous he was).

No, not that of course, just having trouble communicating with women, because I can't figure them out lol.

Brad, the key to figuring out women is avoiding trying to figure them out:)

you have to put urself out there to a certain degree, just be urself and you'll eventually find "ur crowd" and women who click with you.

Elliott Rodgers had it all.. failed miserably despite the resources, women can sense the unnatural with uncanny skill. The greatest pick up line in the world is the non pick up line. Show respect and genuine interest in their thoughts and be urself.. if they don't respond to that then I wouldn't worry one bit about missing out on a friendship or dating them.

He probably did hear about Eric and Dylan, but I think he was inspired by Seung Hui Cho.