The small questions thread

Hello6745 wrote:

What kind of ''combat'' boots were they wearing?
I'm not sure what people in America buy but the only thing I can think of is Dr Martens

I think they were described as 'military jungle boots'.

This might sound kind of morbid, but does anyone have a list of who killed who? So far, whenever I see someone ask "who killed Rachel?" or "who killed [insert other name]?" the answer is always Eric. Does anyone know which of the victims were Dylan's?

nicolonoscopy wrote:

This might sound kind of morbid, but does anyone have a list of who killed who? So far, whenever I see someone ask "who killed Rachel?" or "who killed [insert other name]?" the answer is always Eric. Does anyone know which of the victims were Dylan's?

Kyle Velasquez
Matt Kechter
Lauren Townsend
John Tomlin
Corey DePooter

does anyone know how long the library was just sealed off before being demolished?

would the library have been completely 100% bare when sealed off? like would the carpets and furniture remained while sealed?

The old library demolition started on May 30 2000. It was sealed off from April 20th until then.

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The library was still in its original condition at the end of May 1999 when survivors returned etc. and was probably kept like that until at least July 1999.

By the time of demolition on May 2000 it was more than likely already stripped.

I was just watching the new CVA video about murdererbilia. In the comments section somebody asked if he'd ever seen the photo of Eric and Dylan being removed from the building. He denied they exist.

I'm quite sure I've seen these somewhere (either video or photo) or at least images of someone claiming it was them. Am I just making this up or not?

Draw_It_White wrote:

I was just watching the new CVA video about murdererbilia. In the comments section somebody asked if he'd ever seen the photo of Eric and Dylan being removed from the building. He denied they exist.

I'm quite sure I've seen these somewhere (either video or photo) or at least images of someone claiming it was them. Am I just making this up or not?

It was someone on a stretcher and people were saying it was Eric. It wasn't though, it was one of the victims. I don't remember which one though.

Draw_It_White wrote:

I was just watching the new CVA video about murdererbilia. In the comments section somebody asked if he'd ever seen the photo of Eric and Dylan being removed from the building. He denied they exist.

I'm quite sure I've seen these somewhere (either video or photo) or at least images of someone claiming it was them. Am I just making this up or not?

I don't have the photo on me but they could be talking about the photo of the blue tarp tent that was set up right next to the library. Apparently victims were moved there the day after the shooting before being sent off to the morgue. I'd imagine Eric and Dylan were place in there too.

I am looking for the thread on the eric and dylan cool down period can anyone link me to it?

this one?

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Is lasttrain Dave Cullen?

TheSpiral wrote:

Is lasttrain Dave Cullen?

Yes.

@sorority alpha
I think that is the thread.But there was another thread I renember when user discussed Eric and Dylan roaming the hallways after the library.

does anyone think the Harris family will ever speak publicly?

does anyone know the name of the students who tried saving dave sanders?

milfncookies wrote:

does anyone think the Harris family will ever speak publicly?

does anyone know the name of the students who tried saving dave sanders?

The Harris family will probably never speak publicly. You can read an account of their meeting with the Mauser family:

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Also, Aaron Hancey tried to save Dave Sanders.

Jenn wrote:

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Is lasttrain Dave Cullen?

Yes.

lolllllllllllllllllll

At what point of the shooting does the cctv start recording? It start at 11:22, so I guess right when Danny, Lance and Sean are being shot at?

Pennydreadful wrote:

Because they wanted to be percieved as godlike by deciding who lives and who dies so they let some people live and killed others.  At least that's what has been speculated. They also didn't seem to kill students they've had conversations with that day.

The prevailing opinion is that by then, even the "excitement" from killing was no longer there for them.

Nasty wrote:

Pennydreadful wrote:

Because they wanted to be perceived as godlike by deciding who lives and who dies so they let some people live and killed others.  At least that's what has been speculated. They also didn't seem to kill students they've had conversations with that day.

The prevailing opinion is that by then, even the "excitement" from killing was no longer there for them.

The CCTV ran for for a few hours. It missed the start due to a custodian changing the tape and a phone call that interrupted him in the middle of that tape change. The entire video is on YouTube. You see them coming down a couple times, sipping a drink from the tables, trying to shoot the propane tanks, etc.

You also see Mr. Sanders running up the stairs...

Can someone lead me to the CBS news coverage of the Basement tapes? It was just after Time Magazine.

thoughts on Jeff Kass's book? I've read Brooks's and Sue's - looking for more.

I'm checking out the sample on iBooks and so far- 38 pages in and I've learned new things. Didn't know D&E had hand signals, didn't know D spoke to Lance Kirklin before shooting him in the face.. wondering if anyone recommends it?

I looked on the Columbine Photos forum of this message board, and I did not see any pictures of Zack Heckler. Zack Heckler is a significant part of the story of E & D, and I have never even seen him.

Where can I find a photograph of Zack Heckler?

gumshoe wrote:

I looked on the Columbine Photos forum of this message board, and I did not see any pictures of Zack Heckler.  Zack Heckler is a significant part of the story of E & D, and I have never even seen him.

Where can I find a photograph of Zack Heckler?

Here's his photo from the 1998-1999 yearbook.
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Does anyone know what the green magazine punches that Eric wore during the massacre were called? I can't find anything similar.

sororityalpha wrote:

Most of the students ran out of the north library emergency exit when Eric/Dylan left the library after 11:36am.

The only students that were still in there that were not dead were Lisa Kreutz and Patrick Ireland. Some of the teachers were still hiding in the kitchen/RNN room as well after Eric/Dylan left the first time.

When Eric/Dylan returned to the library they did not kill anyone else. In fact, they never killed anyone else after 11:36am.

There is some evidence that shows Eric could have killed himself around 12:08pm. Nobody knows for sure when Dylan committed suicide.

How do we know such an exact time stamp ?

droolgag wrote:

sororityalpha wrote:

Most of the students ran out of the north library emergency exit when Eric/Dylan left the library after 11:36am.

The only students that were still in there that were not dead were Lisa Kreutz and Patrick Ireland. Some of the teachers were still hiding in the kitchen/RNN room as well after Eric/Dylan left the first time.

When Eric/Dylan returned to the library they did not kill anyone else. In fact, they never killed anyone else after 11:36am.

There is some evidence that shows Eric could have killed himself around 12:08pm. Nobody knows for sure when Dylan committed suicide.

How do we know such an exact time stamp ?

At 12:05 they were shooting at police outside.
The time on the sprinkler that activated after the molotov exploded says 12:08.
The oil from the molotov was coating Eric's brain matter on one of the tables, meaning he was already dead by the time the sprinkler activated.
He died sometime between 12:05 and 12:08.

Does anyone know where are these gifs from? The original video? It looks so clear.

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And also these ones

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Gonz wrote:

Does anyone know where are these gifs from? The original video? It looks so clear.

The first group of GIFs are from the documentary '13 Families'. The second group are from a random news segment with Craig Scott. Sorry I cant be more specific.

Nasty wrote:

Nasty wrote:

Pennydreadful wrote:

Because they wanted to be perceived as godlike by deciding who lives and who dies so they let some people live and killed others.  At least that's what has been speculated. They also didn't seem to kill students they've had conversations with that day.

The prevailing opinion is that by then, even the "excitement" from killing was no longer there for them.

The CCTV ran for for a few hours.  It missed the start due to a custodian changing the tape and a phone call that interrupted him in the middle of that tape change.  The entire video is on YouTube. You see them coming down a couple times, sipping a drink from the tables, trying to shoot the propane tanks, etc.

You also see Mr. Sanders running up the stairs...    

Thanks to CVA we now know that the CCTV did indeed show Eric and Dylan planting the propane bombs in the cafeteria.

Actually it was AWResistance that spotted it & Harbinger brought it to CVA's attention:

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Does anyone know how many times Eric and Dylan actually got to practice shooting their guns besides the Rampart Range video?

EGSandrew wrote:

Does anyone know how many times Eric and Dylan actually got to practice shooting their guns besides the Rampart Range video?

There isn't a specific number, but they went out shooting at least two times. One time being the RR video, and the other being when they just got the guns. They talked about going into the woods and shooting the carbine into the ground to test it.

Jen, you don't know shit about wayne harris and for you to accuse him of not giving a fuck about his son eric is fucked up. frankly, i dont blame the guy. i wouldn't want to be wrote about and discussed in a forum the way you guys do to him and susan, commenting on everything they do, it makes sense that he doesn't feel comfortable to speak to the public.

sororityalpha wrote:

Actually it was AWResistance that spotted it & Harbinger brought it to CVA's attention:

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Well excuse me.

paradisedreams wrote:

Jenn wrote:

paradisedreams wrote:

Does anyone know (even if it's just a estimate) where Anne Marie was outside when she was shot? I know Zero Hour makes it seem like she was shot in the parking lot. But that documentary was obviously made when they were still in the early years of the investigation.

This here is a diagram that I posted awhile back on our Columbine Facebook page. This should give you a good idea where she was at when she was shot. And this is from official documents so it should be accurate.

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I've always wondered if this was a person, or if I was seeing stuff and it was just scattered backpacks?? Now it's clear that it actually is her when you see a better quality version of it.
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I don't see it. Where is she?

the white/grey in front of the grass patch immediately beside the black bag.

W.A.R. wrote:

the white/grey in front of the grass patch immediately beside the black bag.

Are you sure? It looks nothing like a human body. I've even gone over aerial shots of this area and I could see those white and grey items there, doesn't look like a person at all.

deeagle wrote:

W.A.R. wrote:

the white/grey in front of the grass patch immediately beside the black bag.

Are you sure? It looks nothing like a human body.  I've even gone over aerial shots of this area and I could see those white and grey items there, doesn't look like a person at all.

no but i guessing thats what hes talking about.

Juicy Jazzy wrote:

Gonz wrote:

Does anyone know where are these gifs from? The original video? It looks so clear.

The first group of GIFs are from the documentary '13 Families'. The second group are from a random news segment with Craig Scott. Sorry I cant be more specific.

Thanks for answering! It's been a while since I watched '13 families'. I was curious about the Craig Scott video since it shows the whole West entrance area before the remodeling.

I recently read an article from two days after the shooting that claimed Eric's yearbook that was seized from his home had "dead", "dying", or "save" written over some of the student's photos. Was this ever confirmed?

Littlelo wrote:

I recently read an article from two days after the shooting that claimed Eric's yearbook that was seized from his home had "dead", "dying", or "save" written over some of the student's photos. Was this ever confirmed?

I don't think the yearbooks were even out yet I remember seeing a video about the yearbooks and the controversy over whether or not their pictures should be in included. The yearbook actually had a middle section honoring the students and teacher that were killed, so no, I don't think that's true.

deeagle wrote:

Littlelo wrote:

I recently read an article from two days after the shooting that claimed Eric's yearbook that was seized from his home had "dead", "dying", or "save" written over some of the student's photos. Was this ever confirmed?

I don't think the yearbooks were even out yet  I remember seeing a video about the yearbooks and the controversy over whether or not their pictures should be in included.  The yearbook actually had a middle section honoring the students and teacher that were killed, so no, I don't think that's true.

Maybe it was the yearbook from the year before? I know Eric had a shit list that included names of seniors from the class of '98, so it's possible it was from his junior year. But I haven't heard about it from anywhere but that article, so I am skeptical.

Were the car bombs also timed and if so, what time were they set to explode?

sscc wrote:

Were the car bombs also timed and if so, what time were they set to explode?

Yes. 11:18 A.M.

Jenn wrote:

sscc wrote:

Were the car bombs also timed and if so, what time were they set to explode?

Yes. 11:18 A.M.

Thank you very much.

In Sue Klebolds book she mentioned some of their friends couldn't go back to school or walk during graduation, does anyone remember who?

Did that story about Dylan being in the sound booth when Rachel's music malfunctioned during a show actually happen?

Why do you think they didn't kill more people in the library? They were vulnerable under the tables, and not moving. Eric and Dylan could have moved from table to table shooting them all in the head, but chose not to. I know they wanted to play god and let some people go, but since their original goal for a kill count was in the hundreds, I would have expected them to kill more when they had the chance.