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 Did they sleep prior to their shootings?

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PostSubject: Did they sleep prior to their shootings?   Did they sleep prior to their shootings? Icon_minitimeMon Aug 28, 2017 9:00 am

You people in here ask all kinds of questions from important to insignificant but i thought about this yesterday, did mass shooters/ school shooters sleep the night prior to their attack?
Like both Eric Harris & Dylan Klebold got up early on the day of the attack and so did Seung Hui Cho so is their any documents or articles about this? If not what is your guesses? I mean if they have planned it
for so long and the day finally is only one night away do you think they would be able to fall asleep knowing that they would die the next day? I myself think it´s an interesting question because
if they have had an all nighter wouldn´t that perhaps make them a bit tired or leave them with some brainfog in the morning? I know when i used to have an all nighter while gaming with friends that
around 9-10am i would crash and become pretty tired and have brainfog for the rest of the day and if they were well rested they would be clearer in their mind thereby have better focus but I can´t imagine them being able to fall asleep knowing they would die the next day
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PostSubject: Re: Did they sleep prior to their shootings?   Did they sleep prior to their shootings? Icon_minitimeMon Aug 28, 2017 9:27 am

E&D probably had several sleepless nights leading up to 4/20. I personally don't think they slept the night before the shootings. The adrenaline rush they likely had would have kept any tiredness or brain fog at bay for a little while, at least until it ran its course.
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PostSubject: Re: Did they sleep prior to their shootings?   Did they sleep prior to their shootings? Icon_minitimeMon Aug 28, 2017 9:31 am

That was my thought too with the adrenaline rush. Most of us have probably have had a hard time falling asleep if we were to do something exciting like as a child before Christmas day or any other big event we have yearned for so surely Eric, Dylan and Cho must have been wide awake

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PostSubject: Re: Did they sleep prior to their shootings?   Did they sleep prior to their shootings? Icon_minitimeMon Aug 28, 2017 11:06 am

They probably slept for 3 or 4 hours. The excitement and adrenaline made them all pumped up they forgot about the fatigue. Eric seems to be okay in that Gas station security camera video, but that is just an assumption.

From my personal experience, I slept for two and a half hours before going on a 11 hour road trip, and throughout the entire way I didn't feel exhausted at all. It's just that feeling like you are about to jump out of your own body.
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PostSubject: Re: Did they sleep prior to their shootings?   Did they sleep prior to their shootings? Icon_minitimeMon Aug 28, 2017 11:15 am

Excitement and adrenaline can only keep you awake for so long untill your body gives in.
I think they did have a couple of hours of sleep at best.

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PostSubject: Re: Did they sleep prior to their shootings?   Did they sleep prior to their shootings? Icon_minitimeMon Aug 28, 2017 11:41 am

TheSpiral wrote:
Excitement and adrenaline can only keep you awake for so long untill your body gives in.

Hmmm I don´t know about that I get where you are comming from like if you have been awake for more than one day but don´t you think the excitement and adrenaline would be able to keep them awake to 12.08 the following day? I for one can´t imagine them even sleeping for a couple of hours because it was only one single night they have to stay up and with the excitement and adrenaline i would imagine that would be enough to keep them running for the next day.

But keep commenting it´s interesting to hear different peoples opinions Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Did they sleep prior to their shootings?   Did they sleep prior to their shootings? Icon_minitimeMon Aug 28, 2017 11:56 am

I don't know if I'd even bother with sleeping if I knew it was my last night on earth, if it were even possible to sleep with all the anxiety and excitement.

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PostSubject: Re: Did they sleep prior to their shootings?   Did they sleep prior to their shootings? Icon_minitimeMon Aug 28, 2017 4:35 pm

I imagine Dylan listening to HURT over and over the night before. "If I could start again a million miles away" he said that song gave him hope, more so the day before he'd die i'm sure.
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PostSubject: Re: Did they sleep prior to their shootings?   Did they sleep prior to their shootings? Icon_minitimeMon Aug 28, 2017 10:22 pm

I sincerely doubt they got much sleep if any, We know Eric was up recording the "Nixon" tape around 2 A.M. And I could see Dylan staying up late to destroy his computer and making all those drawings of their load-outs and the "Have fun" journal entry
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PostSubject: Re: Did they sleep prior to their shootings?   Did they sleep prior to their shootings? Icon_minitimeThu Aug 31, 2017 4:34 am

15 year old Rafael Solich, who commit the Carmen de Patagones school shooting said that he was nervous and didn't sleep during the night before his attack.
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PostSubject: Re: Did they sleep prior to their shootings?   Did they sleep prior to their shootings? Icon_minitimeFri Sep 01, 2017 4:05 am

could actually explain why Eric drinks in the cafeteria video, it was a cup of pepsi and he needed a caffeine boost to stay awake.
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PostSubject: Re: Did they sleep prior to their shootings?   Did they sleep prior to their shootings? Icon_minitimeFri Sep 01, 2017 6:54 am

spidEr wrote:
could actually explain why Eric drinks in the cafeteria video, it was a cup of pepsi and he needed a caffeine boost to stay awake.

I don't think he needed anything to stay awake at that point.

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PostSubject: Re: Did they sleep prior to their shootings?   Did they sleep prior to their shootings? Icon_minitimeFri Sep 01, 2017 7:39 am

I agree. I think he was just thirsty, or perhaps wanted to get rid of the bloody taste in his mouth from the busted/broken nose. He saw it sitting there and took a sip.


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PostSubject: Re: Did they sleep prior to their shootings?   Did they sleep prior to their shootings? Icon_minitimeFri Sep 01, 2017 7:41 am

spidEr wrote:
could actually explain why Eric drinks in the cafeteria video, it was a cup of pepsi and he needed a caffeine boost to stay awake.

He probably took a sip to clear out the blood in his mouth from a broken nose.
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PostSubject: Re: Did they sleep prior to their shootings?   Did they sleep prior to their shootings? Icon_minitimeWed Sep 13, 2017 2:34 pm

I heard kip kinkel didn't sleept his last night before the shooting at all, it wasn't actually "planned" until a day before he shot up his school (when he also killed his parents ) but of course he thought about it a lot before either and I think after he shot both of his parents and knew the next day he would continue killing at his school also thinking that this would be his last day he wasn't able to fall asleep either. Maybe that was also one of the reasons why he was tackled after the magazine of his rifle was empty in the lunch room, because he wasn't that fully concentrated because he hadn't had enough sleep.
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PostSubject: Re: Did they sleep prior to their shootings?   Did they sleep prior to their shootings? Icon_minitimeFri Sep 15, 2017 6:01 pm

Probably caught a few hours, can't see them having a good nights tho
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PostSubject: Re: Did they sleep prior to their shootings?   Did they sleep prior to their shootings? Icon_minitimeSat Oct 27, 2018 10:54 pm

Steven Kazmierczack had various energy and soft drinks in his motel room:(Redbull, Monster Energy, Gatorade, some Coke), so investigators thought he didn't sleep.
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PostSubject: Re: Did they sleep prior to their shootings?   Did they sleep prior to their shootings? Icon_minitimeSun Oct 28, 2018 11:21 pm

I can imagine the adrenaline would make it difficult to sleep, however exhaustion might also take its toll on the body. After all, it's not just the night before, but all the nights leading up to that as well. I can't imagine the second night before a shooting would be much easier than the first.
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PostSubject: Re: Did they sleep prior to their shootings?   Did they sleep prior to their shootings? Icon_minitimeMon Jun 10, 2019 2:38 pm

Henry DeWitt said that he didn't sleep for 5 days before the shooting
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PostSubject: Re: Did they sleep prior to their shootings?   Did they sleep prior to their shootings? Icon_minitimeFri Mar 11, 2022 11:16 pm

Dominick Sergio Maldonado (Tacoma Mall 2005, 0 killed, 6 injured) hadn't slept for a week due to meth
Michael Swanson ( Iowa Gas Station Spree, 2 killed, 0 injured) claimed in his interrogation he had not slept for 4 days

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PostSubject: Re: Did they sleep prior to their shootings?   Did they sleep prior to their shootings? Icon_minitimeSat Mar 19, 2022 9:41 pm

I could picture Eric somehow being able to drift off to an uneasy sleep for a little while during that final night.

Though Kimveer Gill managed to sleep the night before his Attack as shown from his online journal on the morning of the shooting timed at "8:50AM" reads "Woke up 30 minutes ago" Personally i wouldn't be surprised if he'd been drinking the night before the shooting which helped him to nod off.

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PostSubject: Re: Did they sleep prior to their shootings?   Did they sleep prior to their shootings? Icon_minitimeSun Mar 20, 2022 12:07 am

Pekka-Eric Auvinen I think logged off his computer at around 1 A.M on November 7th? Then he logged back on between 7 and 9 A.M? So if he did get into his bed and actually fall asleep, he would have gotten 6 to 8 hours of sleep for Jokela, unless he did not sleep at all and did something else but his computer the rest of the night. He logged off for the final time at I think 11 something and arrived at the school at 11:40, and began the shooting 2 minutes later

Jeff Weise probably didn't sleep at all before killing his grandfather and his girlfriend, since in the recently released photos of his room you can see a bunch of Pepsi cans, so maybe he drank them to keep him awake, or he was probably just messy (because of his deteriorating mental state maybe) and didn't throw them all away

This somewhat counts I guess, but after he killed her stepfamily, Charles Starkweather and Caril Ann Fugate stayed and slept in her stepfamilies home for 6 days before they embarked on their 2 day killing spree. I think they also slept in one of the cars they stole if I remember right

James Huberty slept I believe

Darion Aguilar probably slept because he indicated on his tumblr post he woke up for the mall shooting with no problems

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PostSubject: Re: Did they sleep prior to their shootings?   Did they sleep prior to their shootings? Icon_minitimeSun Mar 20, 2022 12:31 am

If I recall correctly, Anders Breivik slept in on the 22nd so he would have more energy for Utøya. This could have resulted in less casualties from the van bomb as it was a day off and few people were working there at the time he detonated it.

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PostSubject: Re: Did they sleep prior to their shootings?   Did they sleep prior to their shootings? Icon_minitimeSat May 28, 2022 10:29 pm

Kimveer Gill wrote on VampireFreaks at 8:50 A.M that he woke up 30 minutes ago, his last post before that was at 3:33 A.M. So he would have gotten nearly 5 hours for the Dawson Shooting

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PostSubject: Re: Did they sleep prior to their shootings?   Did they sleep prior to their shootings? Icon_minitimeSat May 28, 2022 11:56 pm

Didn't William Atchison go straight from his work shift at the gas station to Aztec High School?
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PostSubject: Re: Did they sleep prior to their shootings?   Did they sleep prior to their shootings? Icon_minitimeSun May 29, 2022 12:36 pm

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Didn't William Atchison go straight from his work shift at the gas station to Aztec High School?
He came home, grabbed his gun, hard drive, wrote his suicide note and went to the school.

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