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PostSubject: Las Vegas Shooter Planning and Execution   Las Vegas Shooter Planning and Execution Icon_minitimeSun Oct 08, 2017 7:21 pm

On this post i will be detailing vegas gunman Stephen Paddock's activity and plans from what we know.

Before the shooting:
-Booked a room in a hotel next to the lollapalooza festival in Chicago but never showed up
-Booked a room in a hotel overlooking Fenway park baseball stadium in Boston but never showed up
-Started stockpiling weapons and Ammunition as well as accessorizing the weapons
-checks into Mandalay Bay on the 28th of September and brings in 10 suitcases  

Mandalay Bay Shooting:

Stephen Paddock was well equipped and had extensively planned the attack

He had organised his room to accommodate for the shooting by:

-Pushing two chairs together to form a place to put his excess rifles
-setup 4 cameras throughout the suite, 1 baby monitor camera in the suite,1 in the door and 2 on a room service cart.He did this to observe swat movements in and around the hotel.
-stacked 14 90-100 round magazines against the column next to 1 of the firing windows for quick access
-had drawn his curtains to obscure himself and partial muzzle flash in the window.
-2 windows smashed to form a kill box (two firing spots to confuse and trap targets)
-note containing bullet trajectories and plans for firing lines to maximize casualties
-Unused Car bomb consisting of Tannerite and ammonium nitrate

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Shooting:

-10:05/10:08 Stephen smashes the side room window and then the main suite window with a hammer, He then begins to open fire on the crowd, sometime before he started shooting he shoots a hotel officer through the suite door
- Stephen continues to fire at people inside and outside the concert grounds aswell as attempting to shoot and explode jet fuel silos at Mcarran Airport
-10:12/10:15 Two officers arrive on 31st floor and notice gunfire above them, Stephen stops shooting at the crowd
-10:17 officers begin to approach shooters room
-10:18-10:55 LVMPD organises SWAT team outside the room to enter
-11:20 SWAT breaches suite and finds shooter dead

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Weapons:

23 guns varying from .308 to .223

Main weapons:

FN15 with 90-100 round magazines,Holographic sight, flash hider, foregrip and bump stock

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Daniel Defense DDM4 with 30-40 round magazines, scope and bipod

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Other weapons:
Numerous AR style rifles fitted with bump stocks
AK style rifle
Colt M4 style AR15 with scope and bump stock
Revolver of Unknown model
numerous shotguns


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PostSubject: Re: Las Vegas Shooter Planning and Execution   Las Vegas Shooter Planning and Execution Icon_minitimeMon Oct 09, 2017 11:45 am

Do you think he didn't keep the other bookings because he wasn't fully prepared yet? Also the police keep saying there were signs that he had intended to try to escape after the shooting, yet they have never made clear what made them assume this. Any ideas on that?
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PostSubject: Re: Las Vegas Shooter Planning and Execution   Las Vegas Shooter Planning and Execution Icon_minitimeMon Oct 09, 2017 7:00 pm

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Do you think he didn't keep the other bookings because he wasn't fully prepared yet? Also the police keep saying there were signs that he had intended to try to escape after the shooting, yet they have never made clear what made them assume this. Any ideas on that?

I don't know why they are saying he intended to escape, He was extremely intelligent in our view of him and he planned everything in complexity im sure he knew once he started this event there was no going back and no escape thus the reason he ended his life.
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PostSubject: Re: Las Vegas Shooter Planning and Execution   Las Vegas Shooter Planning and Execution Icon_minitimeMon Oct 09, 2017 7:40 pm

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The Revolver was a .38 Smith & Wesson Model 642 by the way.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] I can see blood stains on the revolver, i believe he shot himself in the roof of his mouth with it but that is one of the things about this event that makes me unsure of what happened in that room. if you see the photo of his lower body and the guns around him it looks very odd, even though it is assumed he killed himself with the revolver if you see the photo of him dead you see it a fair distance or so above his head which does not make sense if he shot himself in the mouth it isn't like he threw the gun through his own head like a ghost and iv'e heard people saying it was probably swat kicking the gun out of his hand to make sure he wasnt armed but that doesn't make sense as his left hand is resting pretty much on the trigger of a Colt AR15 which is underneath him and nothing was done about that. Also his left leg is completely under one of his rifles propped up on a bipod, i don't know how he managed to fall from the gunshot suicide in such an impractical position it honestly reminds me of Dylan Klebolds body and suicide and how his Tec-9 was in his right hand despite him being left handed and the gunshot coming from his left side. I believe stephen paddock through and through commited the attack but there are some strange anomalies that we can hope to uncover over time i just hope this don't end up being the next Newtown where we only know a fairly limited amount of info with supposedly no motive. This man was described as kind and someone who would treat strangers with large sums of moneys and meals and would always make sure those in his company were well treated by himself i don't know how he switched all of a sudden and extensively planned the worst shooting in US history it doesn't add up, all these claims of him being mentally unstable and a undiagnosed schizophrenic seem to have no foundations, he was too well calculated and complex with his planning. his brother said he was not mentally ill and even a neighbour who lived next to him in mesquite said how he would go to the bar with him and play video poker and how he was the nicest man you could meet. my theory is that he was either manipulated by an outside source or he was getting old and sick of living the wealthy life thus thought this would be a way to secure his place in History. we will either know or never know
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I don't know why they are saying he intended to escape, He was extremely intelligent in our view of him and he planned everything in complexity im sure he knew once he started this event there was no going back and no escape thus the reason he ended his life.

He ended his life because SWAT was about to come through the Door and either shoot him or apprehend him. Plus shooting yourself is way better than choking to death on your own blood or rotting in Prison waiting for the needle. Also from the reports I've read he stopped firing after around 10-15 minutes and stayed in the Suite not firing a round until SWAT arrived 40 minutes later. So he could've EASILY escaped had he wanted to but he didn't.

they got to the room around the time he stopped shooting and stayed in the hall outside to form an entry team so there is really know way he could of left the suite without being seen, even if he left earlier and evaded SWAT the forensic evidence in the suite would undoubtedly lead to his capture. i believe he wanted to die in the comfort of a place he knew well and made a living from in the end that is why i believe he didn't show at Fenway Park and Lollapalooza, he didn't know them well like he did mandalay bay
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Las Vegas gunman fired at security guard before mass shooting

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PostSubject: Re: Las Vegas Shooter Planning and Execution   Las Vegas Shooter Planning and Execution Icon_minitimeTue Oct 10, 2017 3:14 am

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Las Vegas gunman fired at security guard before mass shooting

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That's extremely surprising! This seems like it's going to be a major problem for the police, hotel management and possibly the security guard himself. He was portrayed as the hero who was responsible for locating the gunman and getting him to stop shooting and this changes the story completely. I don't really believe that it took the police over a week to put this together either.

Now we need to know what the guard was doing after being wounded and when the police were first notified. Six minutes is a long time in the context of mass shootings.
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PostSubject: Re: Las Vegas Shooter Planning and Execution   Las Vegas Shooter Planning and Execution Icon_minitimeTue Oct 10, 2017 7:31 am

This story just gets stranger and stranger. scratch
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PostSubject: Re: Las Vegas Shooter Planning and Execution   Las Vegas Shooter Planning and Execution Icon_minitimeTue Oct 10, 2017 10:13 am

The only FN I'd ever buy would be a P90 or 5-7. And that's just cause of the rounds they use are peculiar. Even those are too expensive for me because they are just novelty guns.

I'm making the assumption the FN may have been his "getaway" gun. The Forearm grip and holo (red dot) sight make it made for CQC.

The Daniel Defense was obviously used to shoot out the window.

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PostSubject: Re: Las Vegas Shooter Planning and Execution   Las Vegas Shooter Planning and Execution Icon_minitimeTue Oct 10, 2017 12:18 pm

silentprocess wrote:
The only FN I'd ever buy would be a P90 or 5-7.
The FN FAL is also good.
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PostSubject: Re: Las Vegas Shooter Planning and Execution   Las Vegas Shooter Planning and Execution Icon_minitimeTue Oct 10, 2017 12:35 pm

No wonder he did so well...
Good tactics.
Good guns, and he had a lot of guns so he could've killed a lot more than he did.
Explosives.
CAMERAS.
2 windows to shoot from to confuse people.
If he didn't use JHP or any other bullet made specifically for self defence and instead used FMJ then he hacked life itself.
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PostSubject: Re: Las Vegas Shooter Planning and Execution   Las Vegas Shooter Planning and Execution Icon_minitimeTue Oct 10, 2017 12:42 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Agree with what you said, couldn't imagine him being better prepared and softpoints would have been just as effective in my opinion. Still even if he used FMJ he was going for rate of fire over accuracy and when that many bullets are flying around I wonder how much difference it would have made if they were HP/Softpoint or FMJ. Still what ammo he used would be very interesting to know.

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PostSubject: Re: Las Vegas Shooter Planning and Execution   Las Vegas Shooter Planning and Execution Icon_minitimeTue Oct 10, 2017 3:48 pm

sororityalpha wrote:
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yeah i saw this earlier in the news im gonna update this topic
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PostSubject: Re: Las Vegas Shooter Planning and Execution   Las Vegas Shooter Planning and Execution Icon_minitimeTue Oct 10, 2017 3:53 pm

silentprocess wrote:
The only FN I'd ever buy would be a P90 or 5-7.  And that's just cause of the rounds they use are peculiar.  Even those are too expensive for me because they are just novelty guns.  

I'm making the assumption the FN may have been his "getaway" gun.  The Forearm grip and holo (red dot) sight make it made for CQC.

The Daniel Defense was obviously used to shoot out the window.

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no i believe the FN15 was his main gun, it was one of the 2 he used and it was the only one out of the 2 to have a bump stock and it also had 100 round magazines equipped which would make sense for the long duration bursts of fully automatic gunfire, he did switch around during the shooting and did use his Daniel Defense rifle, i also believe he used it to fire at the camp mcarran airport fuel silos too.

at that range and elevation he wouldn't need any optics really it was just a spray and pray scenario
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