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Who are some mass shooters who have been inspired by Cho?
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Mirwais500
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Subject: Who are some mass shooters who have been inspired by Cho? Sun Dec 31, 2017 1:46 am
Seung Hui Cho said that he would "die like Jesus Christ, to inspire generations of the weak and defenseless people." But how many mass shooters has he inspired? I know one of them is Wellington Oliveira who praised Cho, said Cho was his "brother" and he had a motive similar to Cho's. But are there any other mass shooters besides Wellington who have been inspired by Cho? Considering he presented himself as some sort of martyr for bullying victims, i'd imagine that at least some mass shooters would idolize him.
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Subject: Re: Who are some mass shooters who have been inspired by Cho? Sun Dec 31, 2017 2:58 am
Elliot Rodger, Chris Harper Mercer, Aaron Ybarra, Steven Kazmierczak, possibly William Atchison (using Cho's name as his alias on several websites, using the same gun, doing similar poses with said gun however it's unknown if he's really inspired by Cho or not).
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Subject: Re: Who are some mass shooters who have been inspired by Cho? Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:26 pm
InsaneIntruder wrote:
Elliot Rodger,
Can we get some confirmation on this? As far as I know Roger acted without inspiration from anyone.
InsaneIntruder wrote:
possibly William Atchison (using Cho's name as his alias on several websites, using the same gun, doing similar poses with said gun however it's unknown if he's really inspired by Cho or not).
I think William did his attack as a homage to every shooter he knew of (although with particular emphasis on Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold). His obsession with mass murder rivaled that of Lanza's.
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Subject: Re: Who are some mass shooters who have been inspired by Cho? Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:36 pm
InsaneIntruder wrote:
Elliot Rodger
I didn't do a lot of Rodger research, but I think his mother was Malaysian so he was half Asian, and his roommates he killed insulted their race. He also hated being half Asian. So I am not sure if he would have liked Seung because of that reason.
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Subject: Re: Who are some mass shooters who have been inspired by Cho? Sun Dec 31, 2017 3:15 pm
I read somewhere that elliot rodger mentioned cho is a youtube comment praising him.
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Subject: Re: Who are some mass shooters who have been inspired by Cho? Sun Dec 31, 2017 6:30 pm
James411 wrote:
I read somewhere that elliot rodger mentioned cho is a youtube comment praising him.
Yes, in a BasedShaman video there's a comment from one of Elliot's alts where he talks about Cho.
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Subject: Re: Who are some mass shooters who have been inspired by Cho? Sun Dec 31, 2017 6:39 pm
InsaneIntruder wrote:
James411 wrote:
I read somewhere that elliot rodger mentioned cho is a youtube comment praising him.
Yes, in a BasedShaman video there's a comment from one of Elliot's alts where he talks about Cho.
BasedShaman has made a'lot of videos on Elliot Rodger, do you know which one specifically has Elliot talking about Cho?
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Subject: Re: Who are some mass shooters who have been inspired by Cho? Sun Dec 31, 2017 8:30 pm
Mirwais500 wrote:
InsaneIntruder wrote:
James411 wrote:
I read somewhere that elliot rodger mentioned cho is a youtube comment praising him.
Yes, in a BasedShaman video there's a comment from one of Elliot's alts where he talks about Cho.
BasedShaman has made a'lot of videos on Elliot Rodger, do you know which one specifically has Elliot talking about Cho?
There's a comment by Elliot mentioning Cho at 6:38.
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Subject: Re: Who are some mass shooters who have been inspired by Cho? Sun Dec 31, 2017 9:01 pm
InsaneIntruder wrote:
Mirwais500 wrote:
InsaneIntruder wrote:
James411 wrote:
I read somewhere that elliot rodger mentioned cho is a youtube comment praising him.
Yes, in a BasedShaman video there's a comment from one of Elliot's alts where he talks about Cho.
BasedShaman has made a'lot of videos on Elliot Rodger, do you know which one specifically has Elliot talking about Cho?
There's a comment by Elliot mentioning Cho at 6:38.
Thank you ill check it out
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Subject: Re: Who are some mass shooters who have been inspired by Cho? Sun Dec 31, 2017 9:15 pm
Chris harper mecer also mentioned cho in his manifesto.
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Subject: Re: Who are some mass shooters who have been inspired by Cho? Sun Dec 31, 2017 9:56 pm
Wellington De Olivera/Steven Kazmierczak are to Seung Hui Cho as Matti Saari is to Pekka-Eric Auvinen
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His obsession with mass murder rivaled that of Lanza's.
How exactly did his obsession "rival" Lanza's? Did he also create a spreadsheet of over 500 mass murderers?
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Subject: Re: Who are some mass shooters who have been inspired by Cho? Mon Jan 01, 2018 2:49 am
STK wrote:
How exactly did his obsession "rival" Lanza's? Did he also create a spreadsheet of over 500 mass murderers?
Kind of. On Encyclopedia Dramatica he made a massive list of hundreds of mass murderers, updating it regularly.
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Subject: Re: Who are some mass shooters who have been inspired by Cho? Mon Jan 01, 2018 11:05 am
Encyclopedia dramatica is a funny site.
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Subject: Re: Who are some mass shooters who have been inspired by Cho? Mon Jan 01, 2018 8:15 pm
Ziamber II wrote:
Encyclopedia dramatica is a funny site.
Also they have way more information on mass shootings than Wikipedia (thanks to William Atchison)
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Subject: Re: Who are some mass shooters who have been inspired by Cho? Fri May 25, 2018 4:18 am
especially the high score section though, lol
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Subject: Re: Who are some mass shooters who have been inspired by Cho? Sun May 27, 2018 5:27 am
Wellington De Oliveria was definitely the most inspired by Cho.
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Subject: Re: Who are some mass shooters who have been inspired by Cho? Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:37 pm
The videos by Nikolas Cruz reminded me of Cho, so maybe Cruz.
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Subject: Re: Who are some mass shooters who have been inspired by Cho? Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:56 pm
Maybe asa coon? He used 2 handguns 1 was .22 and .38 is similar to 9mm i think. Also happened closely together
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Subject: Re: Who are some mass shooters who have been inspired by Cho? Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:57 pm
Tommy QTR wrote:
Wellington De Oliveria was definitely the most inspired by Cho.
Cho's stretched out arms with guns in hand should be mandatory for all future Shooters.
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Subject: Re: Who are some mass shooters who have been inspired by Cho? Mon Jun 11, 2018 3:29 pm
Ziamber II wrote:
Tommy QTR wrote:
Wellington De Oliveria was definitely the most inspired by Cho.
Cho's stretched out arms with guns in hand should be mandatory for all future Shooters.
I remember seeing Randy take a similar picture with his shotguns and it just looked goofy due to the way they were held.
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Subject: Re: Who are some mass shooters who have been inspired by Cho? Mon Jun 11, 2018 3:36 pm
Ziamber II wrote:
Tommy QTR wrote:
Wellington De Oliveria was definitely the most inspired by Cho.
Cho's stretched out arms with guns in hand should be mandatory for all future Shooters.
Adam took pictures holding guns to his head as well, he was also probably inspired by Cho.
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Subject: Re: Who are some mass shooters who have been inspired by Cho? Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:41 pm
David Sonboly may have been inspired by Cho, becaue the school shooting book he owned does feature Virginia tech (I think)
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Subject: Re: Who are some mass shooters who have been inspired by Cho? Wed Jul 18, 2018 3:06 pm
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David Sonboly may have been inspired by Cho, becaue the school shooting book he owned does feature Virginia tech (I think)
It also had several other shooters, including Eric and Dylan. I say it's a stretch.
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Subject: Re: Who are some mass shooters who have been inspired by Cho? Fri Oct 05, 2018 10:52 pm
QuestionMark wrote:
TheOne99 wrote:
David Sonboly may have been inspired by Cho, becaue the school shooting book he owned does feature Virginia tech (I think)
It also had several other shooters, including Eric and Dylan. I say it's a stretch.
There's a clear inspiration in that David Sonboly was clearly stating that he's avenging his psychological liquidation by Turks and Albanians instead of ranting about Natural Selection or trying to get into afterlife like Eric and Dylan.
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Subject: Re: Who are some mass shooters who have been inspired by Cho? Sat Oct 06, 2018 12:05 am
Pekka Eric Auvinen was inspired by Cho.
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Subject: Re: Who are some mass shooters who have been inspired by Cho? Sat Oct 06, 2018 4:42 am
Ziamber II wrote:
Pekka Eric Auvinen was inspired by Cho.
So was Matti Saari.
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Subject: Re: Who are some mass shooters who have been inspired by Cho? Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:48 pm
Emanation of Darkness wrote:
QuestionMark wrote:
TheOne99 wrote:
David Sonboly may have been inspired by Cho, becaue the school shooting book he owned does feature Virginia tech (I think)
It also had several other shooters, including Eric and Dylan. I say it's a stretch.
There's a clear inspiration in that David Sonboly was clearly stating that he's avenging his psychological liquidation by Turks and Albanians instead of ranting about Natural Selection or trying to get into afterlife like Eric and Dylan.
Cho was inspired by Eric and Dylan, he didn't rant and rave about Natural Selection or getting a one way ticket to heaven either.
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Subject: Re: Who are some mass shooters who have been inspired by Cho? Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:32 pm
Emanation of Darkness wrote:
psychological liquidation
Why are you so fond of that term?
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Subject: Re: Who are some mass shooters who have been inspired by Cho? Sun Oct 07, 2018 6:19 pm
D-FENS1993 wrote:
Emanation of Darkness wrote:
psychological liquidation
Why are you so fond of that term?
I learned it from I, Olga Hepnarova. Not sure if from the movie or from the Roman Cilek's book. It's a good term because stuff like "bullying" can mean just anything from someone being mildly mean to someone every few weeks or so to vicious psychological abuse conducted every day by like half of a class. They even use "bullying' statistics to mask stuff like sexual abuse nowadays.
Funny thing is that David Sonboly also used a similar term - psychological execution.
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Subject: Re: Who are some mass shooters who have been inspired by Cho? Sun Oct 07, 2018 6:24 pm
Emanation of Darkness wrote:
D-FENS1993 wrote:
Emanation of Darkness wrote:
psychological liquidation
Why are you so fond of that term?
I learned it from I, Olga Hepnarova. Not sure if from the movie or from the Roman Cilek's book. It's a good term because stuff like "bullying" can mean just anything from someone being mildly mean to someone every few weeks or so to vicious psychological abuse conducted every day by like half of a class. They even use "bullying' statistics to mask stuff like sexual abuse nowadays.
Funny thing is that David Sonboly also used a similar term - psychological execution.
Ah I see, I always wondered why you used it so much. It must be from the book because I do not recall that term being used in the film (The film is one of my tied favourite films so I feel confident in saying that it isn't in there)
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Subject: Re: Who are some mass shooters who have been inspired by Cho? Sun Oct 07, 2018 7:57 pm
D-FENS1993 wrote:
Emanation of Darkness wrote:
D-FENS1993 wrote:
Emanation of Darkness wrote:
psychological liquidation
Why are you so fond of that term?
I learned it from I, Olga Hepnarova. Not sure if from the movie or from the Roman Cilek's book. It's a good term because stuff like "bullying" can mean just anything from someone being mildly mean to someone every few weeks or so to vicious psychological abuse conducted every day by like half of a class. They even use "bullying' statistics to mask stuff like sexual abuse nowadays.
Funny thing is that David Sonboly also used a similar term - psychological execution.
Ah I see, I always wondered why you used it so much. It must be from the book because I do not recall that term being used in the film (The film is one of my tied favourite films so I feel confident in saying that it isn't in there)
IIRC they've cut down her story somewhat - including the court speech, I think, to make place for more sex scenes.
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