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Subject: Are you still with me? Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:56 pm
I wanted to open up this discussion. I know we have spoken about it on and off!
In Lisa K’s 11k interview she says she heard one of the gunmen saying “are you still with me? We’re still doing this?” Before entering the library.
As far as I know there hasn’t been verification of when it was said, was it the first or second time? If it has been confirmed, forgive me! I missed it.
If it was before the massacre in the library I assume it was Eric who said it to Dylan. I also wonder if that’s one of the reasons Dylan acting like he was having “fun” to show Eric he was into it.
If it was before the police shoot out and suicides I think it would be Dylan to Eric.
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Subject: Re: Are you still with me? Sat Feb 10, 2018 10:22 pm
in a rare Spanish? Portuguese? documentary that I am unable to locate on YouTube there is rare interviews with library survivors. One of the people mentions the gunmen saying that, and also "Dylan screamed at Eric to stop". I have spent countless hours trying to find that documentary with no luck.
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Subject: Re: Are you still with me? Sat Feb 10, 2018 10:33 pm
Screamingophelia wrote:
I wanted to open up this discussion. I know we have spoken about it on and off!
In Lisa K’s 11k interview she says she heard one of the gunmen saying “are you still with me? We’re still doing this?” Before entering the library.
As far as I know there hasn’t been verification of when it was said, was it the first or second time? If it has been confirmed, forgive me! I missed it.
If it was before the massacre in the library I assume it was Eric who said it to Dylan. I also wonder if that’s one of the reasons Dylan acting like he was having “fun” to show Eric he was into it.
If it was before the police shoot out and suicides I think it would be Dylan to Eric.
How do we even know if this testimony is credible?
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Screamingophelia Other Crimes Moderator & Top 10 Contributor
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Subject: Re: Are you still with me? Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:17 pm
spidEr wrote:
in a rare Spanish? Portuguese? documentary that I am unable to locate on YouTube there is rare interviews with library survivors. One of the people mentions the gunmen saying that, and also "Dylan screamed at Eric to stop". I have spent countless hours trying to find that documentary with no luck.
That’s one I’ve never heard.
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Subject: Re: Are you still with me? Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:18 pm
QuestionMark wrote:
Screamingophelia wrote:
I wanted to open up this discussion. I know we have spoken about it on and off!
In Lisa K’s 11k interview she says she heard one of the gunmen saying “are you still with me? We’re still doing this?” Before entering the library.
As far as I know there hasn’t been verification of when it was said, was it the first or second time? If it has been confirmed, forgive me! I missed it.
If it was before the massacre in the library I assume it was Eric who said it to Dylan. I also wonder if that’s one of the reasons Dylan acting like he was having “fun” to show Eric he was into it.
If it was before the police shoot out and suicides I think it would be Dylan to Eric.
How do we even know if this testimony is credible?
Being that it was only Lisa who said it and if it Was the second time and she was in and out of consciousness it may not be 100% credible.
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Subject: Re: Are you still with me? Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:59 am
I'm sure Lisa supposedly heard it when E&D first entered the library.
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Subject: Re: Are you still with me? Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:24 am
spidEr wrote:
in a rare Spanish? Portuguese? documentary that I am unable to locate on YouTube there is rare interviews with library survivors. One of the people mentions the gunmen saying that, and also "Dylan screamed at Eric to stop". I have spent countless hours trying to find that documentary with no luck.
this one?
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Subject: Re: Are you still with me? Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:38 am
Screamingophelia wrote:
spidEr wrote:
in a rare Spanish? Portuguese? documentary that I am unable to locate on YouTube there is rare interviews with library survivors. One of the people mentions the gunmen saying that, and also "Dylan screamed at Eric to stop". I have spent countless hours trying to find that documentary with no luck.
That’s one I’ve never heard.
Agreed. I don't think I have ever came across anything saying that either one tried to stop or hinder the other during the massacre.
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Subject: Re: Are you still with me? Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:51 am
ShadowedGoddess wrote:
Screamingophelia wrote:
spidEr wrote:
in a rare Spanish? Portuguese? documentary that I am unable to locate on YouTube there is rare interviews with library survivors. One of the people mentions the gunmen saying that, and also "Dylan screamed at Eric to stop". I have spent countless hours trying to find that documentary with no luck.
That’s one I’ve never heard.
Agreed. I don't think I have ever came across anything saying that either one tried to stop or hinder the other during the massacre.
Especially in the library where most witnesses said that Dylan was aggressive and pretty much snapped his tether.
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Subject: Re: Are you still with me? Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:11 am
I think is just made up for press, to add some spicy emotions, because we all know how Dylan behaved in the library.
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Subject: Re: Are you still with me? Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:32 am
Screamingophelia wrote:
Being that it was only Lisa who said it and if it Was the second time and she was in and out of consciousness it may not be 100% credible.
Yeah that's enough evidence for me to consider this testimony as unreliable at best and an outright fabrication at worst.
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Subject: Re: Are you still with me? Sun Feb 11, 2018 3:09 pm
QuestionMark wrote:
Screamingophelia wrote:
Being that it was only Lisa who said it and if it Was the second time and she was in and out of consciousness it may not be 100% credible.
Yeah that's enough evidence for me to consider this testimony as unreliable at best and an outright fabrication at worst.
There are a few statements I take with a grain of salt... some unpopular too, like I think Adam Kyler and Michelle Hartsoughs are extremely exaggerated.
I think Lisa answered to the best of her ability. I wish that she would’ve spoken about her experience more though. Maybe next year when it’s been 20 years? Her experience along with hearing something from the Harris’s are my top interviews that I would love to see one day but probably won’t see.
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Subject: Re: Are you still with me? Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:33 pm
I don't see her speaking out now. I think she was probably quite traumatised by it all (don't forget she graduated from high school in a wheelchair) and simply wishes to move on with her life.
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Subject: Re: Are you still with me? Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:46 am
I'm sure I read somewhere that it was Dylan who asked 'are you still with me' but I cant for the life of me remember where I read this.
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Subject: Re: Are you still with me? Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:48 am
I thought that it's was Eric.
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