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Subject: Re: Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Parkland, Florida. Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:33 pm
pess1mist wrote:
what board was this posted to?
/r9k/, the same one Chris Harper-Mercer posted on.
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Subject: Re: Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Parkland, Florida. Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:34 pm
browneyes11 wrote:
does anyone else need a link?
Yes please!
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Subject: Re: Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Parkland, Florida. Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:40 pm
Did someone notice in his IG screenshot, the one picture where he is googling allahu akbar?
And will be interested to know, what that 1/18/16 date could mean?
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Subject: Re: Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Parkland, Florida. Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:46 pm
A few weeks ago or so I was looking at a post where someone asked what Columbine would've been like if the students had smartphones on them..... holy crap.
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Subject: Re: Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Parkland, Florida. Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:47 pm
rroads wrote:
A few weeks ago or so I was looking at a post where someone asked what Columbine would've been like if the students had smartphones on them..... holy crap.
Here on this forum?
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Subject: Re: Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Parkland, Florida. Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:51 pm
QuestionMark wrote:
pess1mist wrote:
what board was this posted to?
/r9k/, the same one Chris Harper-Mercer posted on.
It's never very surprising to see a shooter that visits /r9k/
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Subject: Re: Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Parkland, Florida. Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:54 pm
I’d like a link too.
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Subject: Re: Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Parkland, Florida. Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:04 pm
The Columbine families (and other school shooting victims) would be going through hell hearing about this shooting.
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Subject: Re: Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Parkland, Florida. Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:05 pm
QuestionMark wrote:
/r9k/, the same one Chris Harper-Mercer posted on.
No surprise there.
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Subject: Re: Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Parkland, Florida. Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:08 pm
browneyes11 wrote:
Jea wrote:
on the school social page some people started to post photos of victims.
link?
link me too
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Subject: Re: Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Parkland, Florida. Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:11 pm
can someone send the link to the video with a dead body to me in pms?
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Subject: Re: Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Parkland, Florida. Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:12 pm
le4chainorc wrote:
can someone send the link to the video with a dead body to me in pms?
it got deleted.
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Subject: Re: Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Parkland, Florida. Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:12 pm
can i have a link to that twitter video?
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Subject: Re: Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Parkland, Florida. Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:14 pm
Moordenaar wrote:
le4chainorc wrote:
can someone send the link to the video with a dead body to me in pms?
it got deleted.
saw that coming
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Subject: Re: Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Parkland, Florida. Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:26 pm
browneyes11 wrote:
Moordenaar wrote:
le4chainorc wrote:
can someone send the link to the video with a dead body to me in pms?
it got deleted.
saw that coming
I'm wondering why no one saved/screenshot it haha
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Subject: Re: Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Parkland, Florida. Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:31 pm
catyofthebanz wrote:
browneyes11 wrote:
Moordenaar wrote:
le4chainorc wrote:
can someone send the link to the video with a dead body to me in pms?
it got deleted.
saw that coming
I'm wondering why no one saved/screenshot it haha
someone somewhere probably did but honestly it wasn't something I'd care to see over again. Not really overly horrifying or anything, just very sad.
it might pop up again somewhere but censored
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Subject: Re: Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Parkland, Florida. Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:34 pm
I have a video if someone wants to see it.
It's sad video.
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Subject: Re: Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Parkland, Florida. Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:37 pm
The video is on YouTube. Search for grant benson channel name
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Subject: Re: Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Parkland, Florida. Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:38 pm
Theres a video circulating around tumblr that I think might be the one that got deleted. I'm new so I dont know are we allowed to post that kind of link? Not very graphic but there's blood and bodies
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Subject: Re: Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Parkland, Florida. Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:39 pm
There is a video on youtube where the shooter laid down and the first officers came to arrest him.
Video is pretty bad quality tho.
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Subject: Re: Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Parkland, Florida. Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:43 pm
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] you can send the video as a pm not a post iirc
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Subject: Re: Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Parkland, Florida. Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:47 pm
le4chainorc wrote:
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] you are send the video as a pm not a post iirc
OK thank you
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Subject: Re: Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Parkland, Florida. Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:53 pm
catyofthebanz wrote:
Theres a video circulating around tumblr that I think might be the one that got deleted. I'm new so I dont know are we allowed to post that kind of link? Not very graphic but there's blood and bodies
Its not as good of quality as it was originally but thats it
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Subject: Re: Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Parkland, Florida. Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:55 pm
Can someone please pm the link to me to.
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Subject: Re: Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Parkland, Florida. Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:33 am
This happened about 45 miles from where I live. I've never been to the school and I don't know anyone who lives in the area ... but it's still freaky.
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Subject: Re: Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Parkland, Florida. Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:01 am
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] could I have a pm link to the video you mentioned please?
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Subject: Re: Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Parkland, Florida. Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:16 am
I am looking on tumblr but can’t find it. Can I have the link pm’d to me as well?
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Subject: Re: Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Parkland, Florida. Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:20 am
I am seeing all these people I haven't seen post in a LONG time...
hello everyone. Sorry we had to meet again under these circumstances.
I was having a spirited debate about gun control with some people, I think if we keep looking at just that, we are missing the bigger picture.
I was speaking with my mom today and she said she really thinks there needs to be metal detectors and more security, she said when I was in HS we didn't need it, until Columbine then everything changed. We actually almost had a talk about it, which we never did.
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Subject: Re: Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Parkland, Florida. Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:38 am
Screamingophelia wrote:
I am seeing all these people I haven't seen post in a LONG time...
hello everyone. Sorry we had to meet again under these circumstances.
I was having a spirited debate about gun control with some people, I think if we keep looking at just that, we are missing the bigger picture.
I was speaking with my mom today and she said she really thinks there needs to be metal detectors and more security, she said when I was in HS we didn't need it, until Columbine then everything changed. We actually almost had a talk about it, which we never did.
I agree that schools should have metal detectors. I also think what might be helpful is that once they are triggered, they set off a silent alarm in all of the classrooms in the school to let teachers know to go into lockdown until further notice. The system should also alert from which entrance in the building the alarm went off at and have a group of 5 or so trained resource officers on campus go to check out what the issue is. I think that having some kind of "automatic lockdown" button in the main office in case of an emergency where they're not able to deliver news quick enough to teachers and students that there's an active shooter on campus could be helpful, although could be abused by a shooter as a way to delay police entry if he somehow uses the button to lock himself in a class full of kids.
I don't know that gun control is the answer, because people will always find a way to access guns no matter what. We also can't do anything about the millions of guns that are already in existence, and the 3D printers and dark web markets people will use to obtain guns. It may lessen the likelihood of a minor obtaining a weapon, but it's not like an arms dealer on the dark web or your 3D printer need ID to prove that you're old enough to own a weapon. I think that psychological tests prior to obtaining a gun are also necessary. I believe that if you show signs of any severe mental disorder in which you're a threat to yourself or others (depression, schizophrenia, sociopathy, bipolar, etc.) you should not be able to own a weapon of any kind, unless you are given a pass by multiple different mental health professionals that deem you not a threat to yourself or other members of society. It might be seen as discriminatory, but I think that most people will agree that the main leading cause of these mass shootings, as well as suicide, stem from severe, unresolved mental disorders.
The same goes for people who have a criminal record. If you have ever been arrested for anything more than a misdemeanor, you should not be allowed to own a weapon. It doesn't matter how long ago it was, or how much you've changed, I believe that once you commit a crime severe enough to land you in jail or prison, you give up your right to legally own a firearm. I won't name any names, but I know someone who was charged several times in the past for assault, drinking under the influence, and sleeping with a minor, and yet they were still somehow allowed to not only purchase and own a weapon, but have a license to carry in public. Unsurprisingly, this is the type of person I'd expect to go on a mass shooting spree had the circumstances been right for them.
All in all, I think the best way to prevent more school shootings from happening in the future, or at the very least lessening the effect they have, is by stronger school security, and keeping weapons out of the hands of criminals and the severely mentally ill.
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Subject: Re: Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Parkland, Florida. Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:39 am
Just woke up to 260 notification....can someone give me a quick run through of information that is known. Also are there any videos/pictures of the shooting?
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Subject: Re: Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Parkland, Florida. Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:51 am
Will someone send me the video link please?
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Subject: Re: Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Parkland, Florida. Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:51 am
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Just woke up to 260 notification....can someone give me a quick run through of information that is known. Also are there any videos/pictures of the shooting?
A 19 year old former student, Nick Cruz, attacked his former high school in Parkland, Florida. He was dressed in a maroon shirt, dark pants, combat boots, and a gas mask. He was armed with an AR-15 style rifle and smoke bombs. He apparently activated a fire alarm and shot at evacuating students, before continuing inside the school to shoot more people. 17 are confirmed dead and around 14 wounded. Also yes, there are several videos, most released on twitter I believe.
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Subject: Re: Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Parkland, Florida. Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:54 am
Screamingophelia wrote:
All in all, I think the best way to prevent more school shootings from happening in the future, or at the very least lessening the effect they have, is by stronger school security, and keeping weapons out of the hands of criminals and the severely mentally ill.
The safest option would be to have an Australian style gun control law, but that will never happen in the USA.
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Subject: Re: Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Parkland, Florida. Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:22 am
DooMRebel wrote:
Just woke up to 260 notification....can someone give me a quick run through of information that is known. Also are there any videos/pictures of the shooting?
So 17 are dead and a dozen injured, suspect in custody, used some kind of high-powered semi auto rifle apparently. Was a 19 year old student kicked out. Reminds me of Erfurt because the reason he did it was probably because he got kicked out. And the kill counts are similar.
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Subject: Re: Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Parkland, Florida. Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:28 am
Subject: Re: Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Parkland, Florida. Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:49 am
InsaneIntruder wrote:
DooMRebel wrote:
Just woke up to 260 notification....can someone give me a quick run through of information that is known. Also are there any videos/pictures of the shooting?
So 17 are dead and a dozen injured, suspect in custody, used some kind of high-powered semi auto rifle apparently. Was a 19 year old student kicked out. Reminds me of Erfurt because the reason he did it was probably because he got kicked out. And the kill counts are similar.
Also Liam Lyburd was only an hour away from shooting up Newcastle College in revenge for being expelled.
Subject: Re: Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Parkland, Florida. Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:17 am
I'd be interested in the video aswell.
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Subject: Re: Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Parkland, Florida. Thu Feb 15, 2018 4:17 am
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] I couldn't find the video on youtube. Could you send me a link?
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Subject: Re: Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Parkland, Florida. Thu Feb 15, 2018 4:34 am
A bit about shooter:
Gard told CNN that he taught Cruz for a semester in 2016 and described him as a "quiet kid" who he "never had any problems with." But the teacher recalled female students in his class said Cruz had "problems with other girls."
Cruz's former classmates described him as a "loner" who was obsessed with weapons and "into weird stuff.
"He was off," Watford said. "He was super stressed-out all the time and talked about guns a lot and tried to hide his face." Watford added that Cruz complained often about bullying on campus and "had beef with one kid."
After their mother died, the brothers were left in the care of a family friend in Palm Beach County, Kumbatovich told the Sentinel. However, Cruz was unhappy living there and asked a former school friend from Stoneman Douglas if he could stay with their family, Jim Lewis, an attorney representing that family, told the Sentinel.
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Subject: Re: Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Parkland, Florida. Thu Feb 15, 2018 4:38 am
Seeing how 'well' it was planned, do you think he planned to get caught?
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Subject: Re: Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Parkland, Florida. Thu Feb 15, 2018 4:42 am
I think it's so strange that many people knew he was odd and "disturbed", he was very into guns and dark stuff, and he actually had a guns, and no one cared about it at all.
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Subject: Re: Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Parkland, Florida. Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:03 am
JohnWillow wrote:
I have a video if someone wants to see it.
It's sad video.
catyofthebanz wrote:
Theres a video circulating around tumblr that I think might be the one that got deleted. I'm new so I dont know are we allowed to post that kind of link? Not very graphic but there's blood and bodies
Can you please PM me the video(s)?
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Subject: Re: Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Parkland, Florida. Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:14 am
looks like the shooter was a KMFDM fan... or a Harris/Klebold fan. see the hat?
PHOTO REDACTED. apparently that image is not the shooter. i apologise for posting misinformation!
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Subject: Re: Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Parkland, Florida. Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:31 am
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Subject: Re: Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Parkland, Florida. Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:31 am
Jea wrote:
I think it's so strange that many people knew he was odd and "disturbed", he was very into guns and dark stuff, and he actually had a guns, and no one cared about it at all.
To be honest, no one takes that seriously, how many times have we heard in the news after the tragedy, when people who knew the person told that ''he had guns and he was joking about it before'' it's freaking unbelievable.
It's disgusting, I remember when I was in high school I had a classmate who was bullied a lot... he was alone and had almost no friends in the class, his younger brother was always around him when there was a break and he was not from the city, but from the farm... so one day like a ticking time bomb he snapped pretty bad, I thought something bad will happen. Thank God here in my country there are no guns and absolutely zero chance to get guns here... because I had a feeling he was able to do something bad at that time. I was worried about him, haven't heard about him since my last year of high school which was 4 years ago.
People need to realize that if they know someone who posts bad stuff on the social network or even threatens to do something to others whether it is school, the local community etc, they have to take it seriously... one phone call to right people can save and change thousands of people lives...
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Subject: Re: Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Parkland, Florida. Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:34 am
Daniel768 wrote:
JohnWillow wrote:
I have a video if someone wants to see it.
It's sad video.
catyofthebanz wrote:
Theres a video circulating around tumblr that I think might be the one that got deleted. I'm new so I dont know are we allowed to post that kind of link? Not very graphic but there's blood and bodies
Can you please PM me the video(s)?
Gonna send you PM with the video.
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Subject: Re: Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Parkland, Florida. Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:42 am
JohnWillow wrote:
Jea wrote:
I think it's so strange that many people knew he was odd and "disturbed", he was very into guns and dark stuff, and he actually had a guns, and no one cared about it at all.
To be honest, no one takes that seriously, how many times have we heard in the news after the tragedy, when people who knew the person told that ''he had guns and he was joking about it before'' it's freaking unbelievable.
It's disgusting, I remember when I was in high school I had a classmate who was bullied a lot... he was alone and had almost no friends in the class, his younger brother was always around him when there was a break and he was not from the city, but from the farm... so one day like a ticking time bomb he snapped pretty bad, I thought something bad will happen. Thank God here in my country there are no guns and absolutely zero chance to get guns here... because I had a feeling he was able to do something bad at that time. I was worried about him, haven't heard about him since my last year of high school which was 4 years ago.
People need to realize that if they know someone who posts bad stuff on the social network or even threatens to do something to others whether it is school, the local community etc, they have to take it seriously... one phone call to right people can save and change thousands of people lives...
In my country we also have very strict gun law, so no one shoot anybody. About the bulling, well this is just a part of school life, unfortunately, many kids went thru this (me also), but only few can harm someone and it's just because they capable.
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Subject: Re: Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Parkland, Florida. Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:50 am
What about that girl's Instagram who commented on one of the his pictures with a comment allahu akbar and he responded with an emoji to that comment?
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Subject: Re: Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Parkland, Florida. Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:04 am