Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Parkland, Florida.

Jea wrote:

I'm not sympathize to what he is saying, but I do feel sad about how he feeling himself.

Many of us guys have been through phases and felt in a dark place but it's one thing to want help and another to say that people should die because of how they feel. If you sympathise because of the way someone feels are you likely to report them? Probably not, therein lies the problem.

macks_ant86 wrote:

I think I've found his youtube handle if it's true that he idolized ER? That or might be the next mass killer. It was written only 1 week ago. Thoughts? [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

what is the link?

macks_ant86 wrote:

Jea wrote:

I'm not sympathize to what he is saying, but I do feel sad about how he feeling himself.

Many of us guys have been through phases and felt in a dark place but it's one thing to want help and another to say that people should die because of how they feel. If you sympathise because of the way someone feels are you likely to report them? Probably not, therein lies the problem.

well, actually I just want to talk with him and that's it.

also, you can report about him (I'm pretty sure many already done it), but nothing gonna happen. Cruz was reported dozens times, and we all here today discussing his killing spree.

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Well Nikolas Cruz has got his own schoolshooters.info page. Also according to that page, we have the same birthday (September 24).

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Schools across the country are getting shutdown over bomb and shooting threats. It's just like the Columbine aftermath.

This might be this generations Columbine in some ways.

If you think about it, the world is a pressure cooker now like it was back in 1999. It was a different time and no one can really be Eric and Dylan again (thank goodness) but with Columbine there was change and hopefully change now.

Though it is weird for me, I'll be living in Denver for work on the anniversary and there is the walk out, wearing your orange that day.. and 19 years ago I was an angry and scared teenager trying to figure out why I was in tears that night and why it affected me for so long and so much.

And how pathetic he look now. Why he just didn't committed suicide after his killing spree.

Jea wrote:

And how pathetic he look now. Why he just didn't committed suicide after his killing spree.

This is eerily similar to Eric vandalising Brooks Brown's car and then Judy Brown confronting Kathy Harris. I wonder if Cruz he idolized Eric Harris?

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A classmate through elementary and middle school, Brody Speno waited every day with Cruz to catch the bus to school. Then one afternoon about five years ago, when they both were teenagers, Cruz started throwing eggs at Speno’s car with no warning, Speno recalled. He and a friend chased Cruz back to his house.

“We were pissed off, so we knocked on the door and his mom came out,” Speno said. When the two told her what happened, Cruz’s mom had a strange reaction.

“She said, ‘No, my son would never do that. He’s inside sleeping,’ ” Speno recalled.

Has anything been found on his social media accounts regarding Columbine?

I saw a snippet of Fox News report and thankfully they have solved everything for us. The just threw it out there and said "what about video games?" yes... because that hasn't been beaten to death.

Wonder if he listened to Rammstein? Call Marilyn Manson ASAP.

Let me grab a Zima and put on my hemp choker because the 90's are officially back!

Screamingophelia wrote:

I saw a snippet of  Fox News report and thankfully they have solved everything for us. The just threw it out there and said "what about video games?" yes... because that hasn't been beaten to death.

Wonder if he listened to Rammstein? Call Marilyn Manson ASAP.

Let me grab a Zima and put on my hemp choker because the 90's are officially back!

Yep it HAS to be the video games...

Also I died at "Zima and hemp choker!"

Ok, I'm pretty sure I've found Cruz's youtube account and another username/comments. I wasn't expecting his account to still be up.

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macks_ant86 wrote:

Ok, I'm pretty sure I've found Cruz's youtube account and another username/comments. I wasn't expecting his account to still be up.

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He had a shit ton of alts. Wonder why.

From the videos he commented on, seems like he had a deep interest in the military, maybe he tried to join and they rejected him after which he became embittered.

Video uploaded to a channel that seems to be his.

Screamingophelia wrote:

I saw a snippet of  Fox News report and thankfully they have solved everything for us. The just threw it out there and said "what about video games?" yes... because that hasn't been beaten to death.

Wonder if he listened to Rammstein? Call Marilyn Manson ASAP.

Let me grab a Zima and put on my hemp choker because the 90's are officially back!

Yeah someone suggested video games on another website and i said 'whats next, pointing fingers at Marilyn Manson?'

W.A.R. wrote:

Screamingophelia wrote:

I saw a snippet of  Fox News report and thankfully they have solved everything for us. The just threw it out there and said "what about video games?" yes... because that hasn't been beaten to death.

Wonder if he listened to Rammstein? Call Marilyn Manson ASAP.

Let me grab a Zima and put on my hemp choker because the 90's are officially back!

Yeah someone suggested video games on another website and i said 'whats next, pointing fingers at Marilyn Manson?'

I agree, poor Manson has been picked on enough over the years.

The 15-year-old claimed that Cruz, who was expelled from high school for disciplinary and ‘behavioural reasons’, claimed he warned him just minutes before carrying out the sickening act.
McKenna encountered Cruz who advised him to ‘get out of here’ and warned him that ‘Things are gonna start getting messy’.

can someone tell exactly how he got caught ?

did he fight back ?

afrrs wrote:

can someone tell exactly how he got caught ?

did he fight back ?

No, he supposedly didn't resist. He was taken in without incident or so the reports say.

can anyone pm me the graphic stuff?

CarelessLoner wrote:

can anyone pm me the graphic stuff?

Done.

I would also like to be pm'ed the graphic stuff.

I made a misc. video for those who didn't have time to catch up. The video includes mobile-films inside the school (With bodies pixelated) and some misc. photos. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] is it okay if this stays here? I know that gore isn't allowed to be posted here but i don't know if it counts as gore if the bodies are blurred out.

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SaucyJimmy wrote:

As others have said, I don't understand mass shooters/other mass murderers who don't kill themselves in the immediate aftermath of their crime.

me too.

Anything new on the motives for the shooting?

DooMRebel wrote:

Anything new on the motives for the shooting?

I haven't came across anything yet.

DooMRebel wrote:

Anything new on the motives for the shooting?

No but I believe it was because he was expelled from school and/or got rejected by a girl, since it was on Valentine's day.

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2018/02/18/report-fla-social-services-investigated-nikolas-cruz-in-2016/23364704/

Highlights from the article-

"The Florida Department of Children and Families opened a file on Cruz in 2016 after being alerted to his Snapchat posts showing him cutting his arms and saying he wanted to buy a gun, according to a state report first obtained by the South Florida Sun-Sentinel.

Agency investigators visited Cruz at his home and questioned him, ultimately identifying him as a "vulnerable adult due to mental illness" including depression, autism, and attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder, which he was medicated for."

"Yet despite those incidents, state investigators closed Cruz's case two months after opening it, determining that the "final level of risk is low," as Cruz "resides with his mother, attends school and receives counseling."

"This kid exhibited every single known red flag, from killing animals to having a cache of weapons to disruptive behavior to saying he wanted to be a school shooter," Howard Finkelstein, the Broward County public defender, whose office is representing Cruz, told The Times.

"If this isn't a person who should have gotten someone's attention, I don't know who is. This was a multisystem failure," he added."

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2018/02/17/florida-school-shooter-talked-about-killing-mexicans-gays-and-black-people-in-private-group-chat/23364410/


Not sure if these are going to be used as a possible motive or not.

SaucyJimmy wrote:

As others have said, I don't understand mass shooters/other mass murderers who don't kill themselves in the immediate aftermath of their crime. The picture of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev during his incarceration says it all, really. Death is preferable to such a fate.

Which picture?

QuestionMark wrote:

The couch cuck strikes again!

lmfao

Man, William would have been pissed if he knew how things played out. He obsessively researches mass murderers for years, and when the the day comes for him to commit his own attack he kills less people than Randy fucking Stair. And if that wasn't bad enough, only a few months later some other guy comes along, does basically exactly what he was planning to do, and completely blows him out of the water.

SaucyJimmy wrote:

As others have said, I don't understand mass shooters/other mass murderers who don't kill themselves in the immediate aftermath of their crime. The picture of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev during his incarceration says it all, really. Death is preferable to such a fate.

The innate instinct of self preservation is strong and not every prison is ADX Florence.

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This article has some interesting details from the parents of the friend that he was living with.

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Why do you think the FBI failed to investigate and forward the tips on Cruz? Maybe the failure to act on the Youtube tip from September was excusable (even though his real name was the name on the account...) but what about the tip from the person who knew him and gave them details about his threats and access to weapons?

I've been seeing this all over Twitter and Facebook, but students nationwide are planning walkouts to protest gun laws on March 14th and another one on April 20th. Several celebrities have already come out in support of this walkout, here's an article discussing it: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

This kind of makes me nervous. I feel like if any wannabe mass shooters want a good time to attack, it would be when there's a group of kids all in one location together outside. What do you guys think?

pess1mist wrote:

I've been seeing this all over Twitter and Facebook, but students nationwide are planning walkouts to protest gun laws on March 14th and another one on April 20th. Several celebrities have already come out in support of this walkout, here's an article discussing it: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

This kind of makes me nervous. I feel like if any wannabe mass shooters want a good time to attack, it would be when there's a group of kids all in one location together outside. What do you guys think?

These walkouts better be surrounded by SWAT. I'm having the same feeling as you.

https://www.local10.com/news/parkland-school-shooting/marjory-stoneman-douglas-high-school-to-remain-closed-through-wednesday

"That building will remain closed, and school officials have said it may eventually be torn down.

After the shootings, authorities established a large perimeter around the campus, keeping parents, media and other onlookers far from the school.

"The worst week in my professional career without question," Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel said.

Seventeen crosses -- one for each victim -- have been erected in front of the school, becoming a makeshift memorial for residents."

pess1mist wrote:

I feel like if any wannabe mass shooters want a good time to attack, it would be when there's a group of kids all in one location together outside.

Hahahaha, that'd be so ironic. Imagine that, them all protesting school shootings only to get killed in one.

Jea wrote:

The 15-year-old claimed that Cruz, who was expelled from high school for disciplinary and ‘behavioural reasons’, claimed he warned him just minutes before carrying out the sickening act.
McKenna encountered Cruz who advised him to ‘get out of here’ and warned him that ‘Things are gonna start getting messy’.

where'd you hear this from?

InsaneIntruder wrote:

Hahahaha, that'd be so ironic. Imagine that, them all protesting school shootings only to get killed in one.

I mean, it'd probably be the best way to prove their case.

What would really be ironic is if someone drove a car into them.

Jea wrote:

Nikolas Cruz was filmed by a neighbour, doing ‘target practice’ last October
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video inside.


LOL, NICE OUTFIT.

Not trying to start any kind of political debate here, I think that everyone has a right to their own beliefs and that the actions of one person doesn't refelct an entire group of people, but does it look to anyone else here that he's wearing one of Trump's "Make America Great Again" hats?

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STK wrote:

What would really be ironic is if someone drove a car into them.

Or bombed them.

The family who took in Nikolas Cruz after his adoptive parents' deaths are planned to have their first interview with ABC's "Good Morning America" on Monday morning. Here's an article discussing it: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Parkland students say, 'We are going to be the last mass shooting'

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** There will always be more mass shootings... unfortunately.