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PostSubject: Do you know this?   Do you know this? Icon_minitimeMon Aug 19, 2013 11:33 am

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It is a little summary of 11k, I think. I have read the articel about school shooters. Langman wrote Harris is a psychpath and Dylan had a schizotypal personality disorder.

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PostSubject: Re: Do you know this?   Do you know this? Icon_minitimeMon Aug 19, 2013 2:22 pm

I actually like most of Langman's stuff on this case and other cases, although I'm still iffy on the psychopath-deal (and will forever be unless someone puts me in a timemachine to meet the kid) and don't like the citations of Cullen running rampant in the second text. Smile Langman's interpretation of Dylan is really interesting and well worth a look into. (Plus, Langman has the full diversion files in separate documents so that just really came in handy a number of times during quick researches. I may not agree with him on everything, but he does do okay with what he's been given material-wise.)
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PostSubject: Re: Do you know this?   Do you know this? Icon_minitimeMon Aug 19, 2013 3:20 pm

I thought about the schizotypal personality disorder. I have a good friend who suffer a schizophrenic disorder with some depression and last but not least a post-traumatic stress disorder (he was a soldier and worked in Afghanistan) And he reminded me a lot of Dylan. First I was afraid, but I got to know him better. Now he is one of my friends and he called me his sister. But in his case, he got ill in early year. So he spent a long time in a psychiatry as child. I didn´t know if Dylan was ill since childhood or got ill later.

The theory Harris is the leader and Klebold is the follower grounded on some witness statements. For example: Dykeman stated "could still not believe Klebold had something to do with the shooting and Harris must have " had something on him"to cause to participate." I think he was shocked and in disblief.
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PostSubject: Re: Do you know this?   Do you know this? Icon_minitimeWed Sep 04, 2013 9:06 am

The fact that, according to Eric's journals, Eric cared for animals especially dogs, should blow psychopath accusations out of the water.
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PostSubject: Re: Do you know this?   Do you know this? Icon_minitimeWed Sep 04, 2013 1:07 pm

Juicy Jazzy wrote:
The fact that, according to Eric's journals, Eric cared for animals especially dogs, should blow psychopath accusations out of the water.
Not at all. The Hare checklist doesn't require that each person meet every criterion. Just the majority of them, which Eric did.

Ted Bundy had a dog named Lassie. Hitler had one named Blondi. Maybe they were secretly sensitive souls, too?

And let's not kid ourselves. Harris did not volunteer at an animal shelter. He was not part of wildlife groups. He was not a conservationist. Sure he liked his dog, but I don't see any notable love for animals anywhere.
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PostSubject: Re: Do you know this?   Do you know this? Icon_minitimeWed Sep 04, 2013 1:12 pm

I thought that was a great article by Langman.

It has always seemed that Klebold's journals are incoherent and bizarre at times.  The depression diagnosis doesn't quite explain that. He also makes a good point about the Hare checklist not explaining sadism.
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PostSubject: Re: Do you know this?   Do you know this? Icon_minitimeWed Sep 04, 2013 1:23 pm

I agree with Langman´s theory that maybe Dylan had a schizotypal personality disorder. I think it is difficult to diagnose someone who you don´t know and you will never be able to know because he´s dead. I had a friend schizophrenia and there are some consonances.

About I am not sure. The easy answere were he was psychopath. But life isn´t easy and I have to read about him.
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