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Subject: Shooters Known To Adam Lanza? Sun May 20, 2018 10:09 pm
I know that he was obsessed with mass shootings and all, but can someone list any proof that he had known about a particular perpetrator? While yes it is probably likely he researched A LOT of mass shooters, like hundreds! just not mentioned by him on threads or anything like that,so he probably went deep and like, went back to shooting incidents in 1800s- early 1900s and stuff but you get what im saying.
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Subject: Re: Shooters Known To Adam Lanza? Sun May 20, 2018 10:46 pm
If you are looking for information about shooters that he specifically referenced, you can check out this thread. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] I would start with the posts that he made on the Columbine forum, his Wikipedia edits and the evidence that was located in his home. Most of this information is linked directly in the thread.
This is another thread linked in there which has some Tumblr posts that he made. He referenced many shooters on Tumblr. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Various shooters that he discussed have previously been mentioned in many threads on this forum.
I will give you a few off the top of my head to start your list but you should definitely update the thread when you go through and find the other stray references.
Robert Hawkins - Adam referred to him as one of his favorite mass shooters, posted photos and information on the anniversary of his shooting and wrote several posts about how it annoyed him that people believed that the song "Pumped Up Kicks" was about him.
Richard Farley - Adam called him the ultimate stalker and posted about his shooting on the forum. The movie about his shooting was Adam's "favorite movie of any genre."
Steven Kazmierczak - Adam had an article about the NIU shooting saved in his home and mentioned him once on the forum.
Kimveer Gill - Adam named one of his Tumblr accounts after Gill (queerforkimveer), mentioned him several times on the forum and edited his Wikipedia page.
Tim Kretschmer - Adam named a Tumblr account after him (gayfortimk), where he also made a post wishing Tim a happy 21st birthday. His online friend also mentioned Tim as a shooter that Adam had taken an interest in.
Charles Carl Roberts - Adam never mentioned him anywhere but the only known book that he owned about a mass shooting was about Roberts' shooting at an Amish schoolhouse.
George Sodini - Adam updated the Wikipedia article about him, where he mentioned visiting Sodini's personal webpage in the days after the shooting and he also mentioned him on the forum once or twice.
Seung-Hui Cho - Adam made several Tumblr posts (including a Dailymotion compilation) where he referenced Cho, mentioned the shooting on the forum and once expressed a lack of interest in shootings compared to the "enthusiasm" he'd had when Virginia Tech happened.
Thomas Hamilton - Adam mentioned Hamilton a couple of times on the forum and once posted a link to the Dunblane "11k."
Anders Breivik - Adam mentioned him on the forum a couple of times and said that he had read Breivik's manifesto, which was almost "motivational," as if it were part of a "particularly macabre self-improvement book."
And some more random references that I can think of, some mentioned more than others: Patrick Purdy Larry Gene Ashbrook Gang Lu Wayne Lo Jiverly Wong Jim Huberty Michael Ryan Eric and Dylan
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Subject: Re: Shooters Known To Adam Lanza? Sun May 20, 2018 10:54 pm
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Subject: Re: Shooters Known To Adam Lanza? Sun May 20, 2018 10:54 pm
TheOne99 wrote:
James Hubery*
Edit: Also, just for reference, here is a quote from Adam about a thread called "Hunting Humans," which was about a hunting accident where a man accidentally killed his own son and immediately killed himself upon realizing what he'd done: Whenever I see the title of this topic, I think it's about Jim Huberty
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Subject: Re: Shooters Known To Adam Lanza? Sun May 20, 2018 10:57 pm
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Subject: Re: Shooters Known To Adam Lanza? Sun May 20, 2018 11:08 pm
TheOne99 wrote:
SHIT! ok *James Huberty*
FYI, Jim is an American nickname for James, as is Jimmy.
For example, see this text from James Holmes to a girl that he was hitting on: [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Adam also mentioned Jimmy James Holmes in an e-mail to his internet friend, by the way. He said that he couldn't relate to the Holmies and didn't understand why they were treating him like a "poor misunderstood puppy who needs help" when someone like Jared Loughner probably fit that definition more accurately.
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Subject: Re: Shooters Known To Adam Lanza? Sun May 20, 2018 11:32 pm
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Subject: Re: Shooters Known To Adam Lanza? Sun May 20, 2018 11:33 pm
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Subject: Re: Shooters Known To Adam Lanza? Fri May 25, 2018 9:55 am
All of them lol. He had a spreadsheet of all mass murder dating back too the 1800s. I think anyways i cant remember how far back it went, but im sure it was the 1800s.
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Subject: Re: Shooters Known To Adam Lanza? Sat Jun 02, 2018 7:47 am
Tommy QTR wrote:
No way did Adam know about Derrick Bird.
There is actually proof that he did know about him. He was the first person to respond to a thread about the Cumbria shootings, saying: I'm surprised that there haven't been any changes to gun control considering that there were after Michael Ryan and Thomas Hamilton.
I think it's safe to say that Adam knew about every shooting that is listed on Wikipedia (or at least those that were listed on Wikipedia before 2013) and probably others as well.
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Subject: Re: Shooters Known To Adam Lanza? Sat Jun 02, 2018 5:32 pm
sscc wrote:
Tommy QTR wrote:
No way did Adam know about Derrick Bird.
There is actually proof that he did know about him. He was the first person to respond to a thread about the Cumbria shootings, saying: I'm surprised that there haven't been any changes to gun control considering that there were after Michael Ryan and Thomas Hamilton.
I think it's safe to say that Adam knew about every shooting that is listed on Wikipedia (or at least those that were listed on Wikipedia before 2013) and probably others as well.
Really? That's interesting. Makes me wonder if Derrick Bird was on Adam's Spreadsheet.
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Subject: Re: Shooters Known To Adam Lanza? Sun Jun 03, 2018 12:44 am
Tommy QTR wrote:
sscc wrote:
Tommy QTR wrote:
No way did Adam know about Derrick Bird.
There is actually proof that he did know about him. He was the first person to respond to a thread about the Cumbria shootings, saying: I'm surprised that there haven't been any changes to gun control considering that there were after Michael Ryan and Thomas Hamilton.
I think it's safe to say that Adam knew about every shooting that is listed on Wikipedia (or at least those that were listed on Wikipedia before 2013) and probably others as well.
Really? That's interesting. Makes me wonder if Derrick Bird was on Adam's Spreadsheet.
Adam was pretty thorough with his research. I see no reason why Derrick wouldn't be on there.
God damn, I want to see that spreadsheet so bad.
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Subject: Re: Shooters Known To Adam Lanza? Sun Jun 03, 2018 2:31 pm
I wonder what Lanza would have though about Stephen Paddock, Devin Kelly and Nikolas Cruz.
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Subject: Re: Shooters Known To Adam Lanza? Sun Jun 03, 2018 6:33 pm
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I wonder what Lanza would have though about Stephen Paddock, Devin Kelly and Nikolas Cruz.
I imagine Adam would be impressed by Paddock's "mass murder self-actualization". He might take an interest in Kelley due to him killing several children in the attack. Not sure how he'd feel about Cruz.
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Subject: Re: Shooters Known To Adam Lanza? Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:02 pm
Tommy QTR wrote:
What did Lanza think about Breivik?
Adam called Brevik's attack "an impressive instance of mass murder self-actualization" and an excerpt of Brevik's manifesto had him "on the edge of [his] seat in anticipation.
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Subject: Re: Shooters Known To Adam Lanza? Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:39 pm
Lanza might've reacted to Stephen Paddock's shooting by saying how impressed Lanza was with Paddock shooting hundreds with a bump-stock because of how inaccurate the bump-stock makes the rifle. Lanza might've recommended paddock not attach the bump-stock to the rifles for better accuracy.
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Subject: Re: Shooters Known To Adam Lanza? Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:18 pm
He was aware of the 2010-onward string of Chinese elementary school stabbing, but wasn't very interested: "About the Chinese mass stabbers, they blend together in my mind too much for me to say much. Although I guess that should make it even easier to talk about them…"
If I may speculate, these likely included: Zheng Minsheng Chen Kangbing Xu Yuyuan Wang Yonglai Wu Huanming Fang Jiantang Wang Hongbin
(On an unrelated note, if he checked SCMRPG the day of his attack, he would've read about Min Yongjun's stabbing at Chenpeng Village Primary School only a few hours prior, but he probably didn't.)
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Subject: Re: Shooters Known To Adam Lanza? Sun Jun 13, 2021 11:22 am
He knew about the Collier Township shooting, as well as the Sello mall shooting because he edited the Wikipedia pages of both. He also editing the pages of Richard Farley, Larry Gene Ashbrook, Kip Kinkel and the Luby's Shooting. He also mentioned the Hungerford Massacre in his comment explaining why he edited the Sello mall shooting page.
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Subject: Re: Shooters Known To Adam Lanza? Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:13 pm
dyonqqr wrote:
He was aware of the 2010-onward string of Chinese elementary school stabbing, but wasn't very interested: "About the Chinese mass stabbers, they blend together in my mind too much for me to say much. Although I guess that should make it even easier to talk about them…"
If I may speculate, these likely included: Zheng Minsheng Chen Kangbing Xu Yuyuan Wang Yonglai Wu Huanming Fang Jiantang Wang Hongbin
(On an unrelated note, if he checked SCMRPG the day of his attack, he would've read about Min Yongjun's stabbing at Chenpeng Village Primary School only a few hours prior, but he probably didn't.)
So to say, but all the stabbers you mentioned expect Fang Jiantang and Wang Hongbin, are in his spreadsheet, but he probably knew of them. Also in a side note, despite Martin Peyerl don't being in his spreadsheet, at least the version we have of the spreadsheet, Adam had a bookmark about him.
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Subject: Re: Shooters Known To Adam Lanza? Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:26 pm
Here's the names listed in his spreadsheet. Sorry for the terrible formatting, it was thrown together very quickly. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
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All of them lol.
He spent from ~2007 to 2012 locked in his room studying mass murder. That's five years or so of obsessive research. It wouldn't surprise me if most English webpages relevant to mass murder flowed through the internet connection to Yogananda street in that time. Considering he was watching youtube videos on the topic with 50 or so views (maybe less back then,) it's quite possible he was aware in some way of them all.
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Subject: Re: Shooters Known To Adam Lanza? Fri Feb 11, 2022 1:33 am
I wonder what he would think of Randy Stair
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Subject: Re: Shooters Known To Adam Lanza? Sat Feb 12, 2022 3:01 pm
Tim Kretschmer[/b] - Adam named a Tumblr account after him (gayfortimk), where he also made a post wishing Tim a happy 21st birthday. His online friend also mentioned Tim as a shooter that Adam had taken an interest in. [/quote] you also forget to mention that he's pfp on he's "gayfortimk" tumblr account and "GFTK" dailymotion account was this picture of Tim Kretschmer and the fact he named he's tumblr account "gayfortimk" makes me think he had a sexual interest in Tim Kretschmer who was 17 at the time of the shooting which makes think he had some sexual interest in young people
Subject: Shooters Known To Adam Lanza? 
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