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| Subject: Mass shootings with deaths caused by the victims themselves? Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:36 pm | |
| After reading about Heinz Schmidt, it said that a girl accidentally fell off the stair and knoced her neck while fleeing the gunman. The two other example i have is that of Chippa Mateane, where a pedestrian got knocked out by a police car and died, with the other example being the October 22, 1641 Coster massacre, where a man accidentally shot himself dead, though this incident there were no guns used.
Are there more incidents of mass shootings where some of the deaths were caused by the victims themselves? |
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sscc
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| Subject: Re: Mass shootings with deaths caused by the victims themselves? Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:09 pm | |
| During Anders Breivik's massacre, Håkon Ødegaard, 17, drowned while trying to swim away and Andreas Dalby Grønnesby, also 17, fell off a cliff as he was trying to escape. | |
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InsaneIntruder
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| Subject: Re: Mass shootings with deaths caused by the victims themselves? Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:14 pm | |
| Isn't a mass shooting, but the Daegu subway fire literally happened because of the victims. | |
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STK
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| Subject: Re: Mass shootings with deaths caused by the victims themselves? Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:33 pm | |
| Sophie Gornisiewicz, a victim of the 1913 Bremen school shooting, died by falling down the stairs while trying to escape from the gunman. _________________ "If opportunities for role fulfilment fall far short of the demand by those capable of filling roles, and having expectations to do so, only violence and disruption of social organization can follow. Individuals born under these circumstances will be so out of touch with reality as to be incapable even of alienation. Their most complex behaviors will become fragmented. Acquisition, creation and utilization of ideas appropriate for life in a post-industrial cultural-conceptual-technological society will have been blocked." - John B. Calhoun
Everything is going wrong.... Farmers are generally on the verge of ruin. Trade is always bad. The Church is in danger. The House of Lords isn’t worth a dozen years’ purchase. The throne totters. - Anthony Trollope
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InsaneIntruder
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| Subject: Re: Mass shootings with deaths caused by the victims themselves? Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:54 pm | |
| - STK wrote:
- Sophie Gornisiewicz, a victim of the 1913 Bremen school shooting, died by falling down the stairs while trying to escape from the gunman.
OP mentioned that. | |
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STK
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| Subject: Re: Mass shootings with deaths caused by the victims themselves? Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:00 pm | |
| - InsaneIntruder wrote:
- STK wrote:
- Sophie Gornisiewicz, a victim of the 1913 Bremen school shooting, died by falling down the stairs while trying to escape from the gunman.
OP mentioned that. Shit, you're right. Fuck I've been off my game lately. _________________ "If opportunities for role fulfilment fall far short of the demand by those capable of filling roles, and having expectations to do so, only violence and disruption of social organization can follow. Individuals born under these circumstances will be so out of touch with reality as to be incapable even of alienation. Their most complex behaviors will become fragmented. Acquisition, creation and utilization of ideas appropriate for life in a post-industrial cultural-conceptual-technological society will have been blocked." - John B. Calhoun
Everything is going wrong.... Farmers are generally on the verge of ruin. Trade is always bad. The Church is in danger. The House of Lords isn’t worth a dozen years’ purchase. The throne totters. - Anthony Trollope
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sscc
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| Subject: Re: Mass shootings with deaths caused by the victims themselves? Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:51 pm | |
| Shafa Mammadova, 31, jumped out the window and died during a 2009 shooting in Azerbaijan. Three or four (reports vary) crew members of the Taiwanese fishing boat Jing-Qing 12 jumped overboard after the captain began massacring the crew in 1999, and their bodies were never found. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]I don't know if you can say that it was "caused by the victim" but in the same vein, there was a ninth death after the Standard Gravure shooting when a man who was not wounded by the perpetrator suffered a heart attack during the shooting and died several days later. | |
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QuestionMark Top 10 Contributor
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| Subject: Re: Mass shootings with deaths caused by the victims themselves? Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:45 pm | |
| Man you'd hve to be a special kind of unlucky to live through a mass murder then die due to a stupid mistake immediately afterwards. _________________ "My guns are the only things that haven't stabbed me in the back." -Kip Kinkel
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InsaneIntruder
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| Subject: Re: Mass shootings with deaths caused by the victims themselves? Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:53 pm | |
| - QuestionMark wrote:
- Man you'd hve to be a special kind of unlucky to live through a mass murder then die due to a stupid mistake immediately afterwards.
I'd probably die in a mass shooting by slipping on a banana peel next to a staircase, making me fall down. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Mass shootings with deaths caused by the victims themselves? Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:50 am | |
| - QuestionMark wrote:
- Man you'd hve to be a special kind of unlucky to live through a mass murder then die due to a stupid mistake immediately afterwards.
This is true. Specially to the 1641 Coster massacre. Such an unlucky person to shot himself. And the man committing the massacre did only have a dagger, so it would be easy to stop him, but how could he shot himself? |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Mass shootings with deaths caused by the victims themselves? Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:01 am | |
| - InsaneIntruder wrote:
- QuestionMark wrote:
- Man you'd hve to be a special kind of unlucky to live through a mass murder then die due to a stupid mistake immediately afterwards.
I'd probably die in a mass shooting by slipping on a banana peel next to a staircase, making me fall down. I would die by getting ran over by a car in desperation in a mass shooting/stabbing event. |
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InsaneIntruder
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| Subject: Re: Mass shootings with deaths caused by the victims themselves? Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:18 am | |
| - Enesbrietchvonfrederitch wrote:
- InsaneIntruder wrote:
- QuestionMark wrote:
- Man you'd hve to be a special kind of unlucky to live through a mass murder then die due to a stupid mistake immediately afterwards.
I'd probably die in a mass shooting by slipping on a banana peel next to a staircase, making me fall down. I would die by getting ran over by a car in desperation in a mass shooting/stabbing event. Reminds me of this stabbing, where the attacker was arrested because someone accidentally hit him with their car. | |
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