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I'm curious what mass shooter(s) do you sympathize/empathize with (without condoning)?

sympathy = understanding and empathy = experiencing

If there isn't any, then that's fine too.

Here's a list of mine
There's not a killer i empathize with because i never experienced much of what a killer went through

Killers i sympathize with:
Jeff Weise, Eric Harris & Dylan Klebold, Charles Whitman, Pekka-Eric Auvinen, Seung-Hui Cho, Kimveer Gill, Steven Kazmierczak, James Huberty, Adam Lanza,
Sebastian Bosse, Alvaro Castillo, Mitchell Johnson, Chris Harper-Mercer, Kip Kinkel, Jose Reyes, Ali David Sonboly, Robert Steinhauser and Jaylen Fryberg.


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Pekka Eric Auvinen had the most correct manifesto of all time.
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Dylan Klebold.
Eric Harris.
Pekka Eric-Auvinen.
Elliot Rodger.
Nikolas Cruz.
Richard Durn.
Seung Hui-Cho.
Michael Ryan.


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Eric Harris
Adam Lanza
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Eric and Dylan (shocking I know) and honestly Nicholas Cruz and James Holmes but because so many cries for help were left unanswered.

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Many, most of which others have already listed so I'm not gonna bother with some of the more obvious answers like E&D. I will say however that Charles Whitman's upbringing reminds me a lot of my own, and that before he went on a rampage I thought William Atchison was a funny and entertaining guy, and that we shared a lot of the same interests and went to a lot of the same websites.

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Some of the already listed and obvious ones for me are (in order to those I relate to the most):

Dylan Klebold & Adam Lanza tie for the most I can relate to
Pekka Eric-Auvinen
Eric Harris
Nikolas Cruz
Seung Hui Cho
Martin Byrant
Michael Ryan

With the release of the Nikolas Cruz's confession video and other reports on his childhood being released, despite what he committed I can't help feel sorry for the guy, he's definitely one of the most troubled (large understatement right there) shooters out there.

Kinda an odd choice but I do feel a good deal of empathy towards Anders Breivik but not in political terms, I feel that he had a similar upbringing compared to other shooters and while I do believe that his attack was no doubt politically motivated, a part of me kinda also believe theres more going on with Breivik then just being an right-wing terrorist. In other words I do see Breivik being a possible spree killer even without political reasons if you get what I mean.
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Although he's not a mass shooter, i sympathize with Feng Guohui. Poor guy was tormented to the point of taking all his rage to killing.
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Pekka Eric Auvinen had the most correct manifesto of all time.

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Pekka is probably everyone's favorite Shooter, after Columbine.
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Although he's not a mass shooter, i sympathize with Feng Guohui. Poor guy was tormented to the point of taking all his rage to killing.

That guy had an awful life. Faith in humanity has dropped yet further.
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Adam Lanza

nothing in his external life was inherently bad, but his internal life was so miserable that he couldn't take being alive. If you read his writings to himself he looks desperate to get out of the situation he's in, but can't.
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I used to empathize with Tomohiro Kato as I could relate to his manifesto a lot. Though now I empathize more with Jake Bilardi, although he isn't a mass shooter he did plan to commit mass murder in Australia in case he couldn't go to Syria.
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Elliot Rodger, George Sodini, Cho, Kimveer, Jeff Weise, and Robert Hawkins. The first four of them were caused by beta male disorder which can easily be eradicated with the right mentoring and guidance. The last two and more easily to be empathized with because I consider them traumatized murderers. Robert may have been the most justifiable one ever, even if he did have a little psychopathy in him. And why wouldn't of Jeff shot up a school?
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Elliot Rodger, George Sodini, Cho, Kimveer, Jeff Weise, and Robert Hawkins. The first four of them were caused by beta male disorder which can easily be eradicated with the right mentoring and guidance.


Dare I ask what this means? And not to burst your bubble, but, ah, if a person's reaction to "beta male disorder" is to kill a bunch of people, maybe it's a lot harder than you think to teach them out of it.

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And why wouldn't of Jeff shot up a school?

Maybe because millions of abused children in the world don't? I'm baffled utterly as to how you can even write that sentence seriously.

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Steven Kazmierczak
Jeff Weise
Robert Hawkins
Eric Harris
Dylan Klebold
Seung-Hui Cho
Adam Lanza
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Elliot Rodger, Nik Cruz, Dylan Klebold & Adam Lanza for the most. Also Eric Harris, Pekka-Eric Auvinen, Seung-Hui Cho & Kip Kinkel to a several extent
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[quote="QuestionMark"][quote="Torque187"]Elliot Rodger, George Sodini, Cho, Kimveer, Jeff Weise, and Robert Hawkins. The first four of them were caused by [u]beta male disorder[/u] which can easily be eradicated with the right mentoring and guidance.[/quote]


Dare I ask what this means? And not to burst your bubble, but, ah, if a person's reaction to "beta male disorder" is to kill a bunch of people, maybe it's a lot harder than you think to teach them out of it.

[quote="Torque187"]And why wouldn't of Jeff shot up a school?[/quote]

Maybe because millions of abused children in the world don't? I'm baffled utterly as to how you can even write that sentence seriously. [/quote]

It's mostly just a joke to shame weak men, but what I mean by beta male disorder is if they had a sense of truthful, positive masculinity in their lives they wouldn't of committed their crime. If Elliot and George were given actual real dating advice they wouldn't of done what they did. I got it from Grant Amato who murdered his family due to porn addiction, and spent 200k on an e-girl that doesn't love him. The reason millions of other abused children don't shoot up schools is because they weren't radicalized online and addicted to violence like Jeff was. Every man on earth has the capacity do it what they did, they just need the right mindset.
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I got it from Grant Amato who murdered his family due to porn addiction, and spent 200k on an e-girl that doesn't love him.
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Torque187 wrote:
It's mostly just a joke to shame weak men, but what I mean by beta male disorder is if they had a sense of truthful, positive masculinity in their lives they wouldn't of committed their crime. If Elliot and George were given actual real dating advice they wouldn't of done what they did. I got it from Grant Amato who murdered his family due to porn addiction, and spent 200k on an e-girl that doesn't love him.

Nope, sorry, but my original point is still valid. If a person's response to not being able to get dates is to commit the crime of mass murder, then saying that all they needed was "positive guidance" is ludicrous. It's the same exact reason I don't take anyone who says Eric and Dylan did Columbine because of bullying seriously - the response is so disproportionate to the offense that it's incredibly plain to see that the problem is something inherent in them.

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The reason millions of other abused children don't shoot up schools is because they weren't radicalized online and addicted to violence like Jeff was.

This makes so little sense to me that you're going to need to elaborate on how you even reached this conclusion before I can properly respond to it.

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For me it is:
Randy Stair
Nikolas Cruz
Alec McKinney
Aaron Ybarra
Alyssa Bustamante
Kipland Kinkel
Trystan Terrell
Dylan KleboId
Killers I sympathize for but not necessarily relate to:
Adrian Loya
Robert Steinhäuser
Nicholas Godejohn
Gypsy Rose Blanchard
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Dylan Klebold
Eric Harris
Adam Lanza
Cho
Wellington Oliveira
The suzano attackers
Chris Harper Mercer
Elliot Rodger
Nikolas Cruz, maybe
That's all i can think of now
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Cho Seung-Hui, Elliot Rodger, George Hennard, Pekka-Eric Auvinen, Matti Juhani Saari, Dylan Klebold, Jeffrey Weise, Robert Steinhäuser and Chris Harper-Mercer.

Of those, the ones I sympathize with the most are Cho, Auvinen, Saari and Klebold because they, like me, were painfully shy, anxious and insecure.

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Dylan Klebold, Matthew Murray, Randy Stair, Evan Ramsey, Jeff Weise, Kip Kinkel, Alec McKinney, Seung Cho, and Pekka Eric Auvinen.

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Richard Durn
Robert Steinhäuser
Sebastian Bosse
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I share Daniil Zasorin's nostalgia for childhood. It reminds me of ''The Suburbs'' by Arcade Fire: "I wanna hold her hand and show her some beauty before this damage is done".

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I share Daniil Zasorin's nostalgia for childhood. It reminds me of ''The Suburbs'' by Arcade Fire: "I wanna hold her hand and show her some beauty before this damage is done".
I’ll admit, I don’t know too much about Daniil Zasorin. Did he leave any journals or online postings behind?

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I share Daniil Zasorin's nostalgia for childhood. It reminds me of ''The Suburbs'' by Arcade Fire: "I wanna hold her hand and show her some beauty before this damage is done".
I’ll admit, I don’t know too much about Daniil Zasorin. Did he leave any journals or online postings behind?

Daniil Zasorin was active on YouTube and left a video that he recorded the night before the attack. In it, Zasorin revealed that he would like to go back to the time when he was little and everything was easy. Here's a part of the transcript:

“Today, instead of going to the hospital, I walked around the places where I spent my childhood. If I were asked at what time I would like to time travel, I’d say two options. First: childhood. When I had a playstation. I played games, I did not bother about anything. The second one is when I was at school ... when I had friends” ... “Well, what could you do? If I had just called Danka (Daniil’s best friend) ... I would have told him: "Tomorrow this will happen." Well, what would he do? ... Nobody could’ve stop this”.

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I share Daniil Zasorin's nostalgia for childhood. It reminds me of ''The Suburbs'' by Arcade Fire: "I wanna hold her hand and show her some beauty before this damage is done".
I’ll admit, I don’t know too much about Daniil Zasorin. Did he leave any journals or online postings behind?

Daniil Zasorin was active on YouTube and left a video that he recorded the night before the attack. In it, Zasorin revealed that he would like to go back to the time when he was little and everything was easy. Here's a part of the transcript:

“Today, instead of going to the hospital, I walked around the places where I spent my childhood. If I were asked at what time I would like to time travel, I’d say two options. First: childhood. When I had a playstation. I played games, I did not bother about anything. The second one is when I was at school ... when I had friends” ... “Well, what could you do? If I had just called Danka (Daniil’s best friend) ... I would have told him: "Tomorrow this will happen." Well, what would he do? ... Nobody could’ve stop this”.

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Thanks a lot. I do empathize with his childhood nostalgia. I often feel the same way. This shooting didn’t get that much attention, but I find him to be very interesting from what I’ve heard and read about him.

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Adam Lanza

He was so fucked up mentally and physically I can't help but feel really bad when I read about him
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The only mass shooter that I've read about who I can relate to is Elliot Rodger. For some reason, I find serial killers to be more relatable.
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Ok, this is my list (of course, I absolutely don't condone any of their actions):

-Brenda Ann Spencer
She is the first "school shooter" I somehow sympathized with; she seemed very depressed and troubled, and lived with a poor and drunkard father, too.

-Eric Harris
-Dylan Klebold
We can discuss a lot about them, but I'm convinced that they both were really troubled and mentally disturbed, so that they were unable to face their problems in a way that wasn't the destruction of both theirs and other's lives. The social setting they lived in didn't help them, as well as their friendship.


-Seung-Hui Cho
-NiKolas Cruz
-Adam Lanza
These three were all very full of problems, having such miserable lives.
Adam Lanza, in particular, is one the most cruel mass shooter of all the times, for me, but his mind was really a messed up hell, and I feel sorry for him.

I would like to write a list of the shooters that I really hate, too, but maybe it could create some discussions with some of other users, and it would be a little OT.

Sometimes my english is not so good; since this is a sensitive subject for me, I hope I've explained what i meant pretty well.
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I wouldnt say "symphatice" but Brendon Tarrant interest me. Not his weird Ideology, but it is very interesting that he managed to cause so much destruction within a Society who was able to cope with his awful Actions. Usually, dont get me wrong if you from the United States, after a mass-shooting this 3 Things always follows: Media Coverage, Discussion about Mental-Health and Gun-Laws, Nothing effective happens. But the Familys of the Victims are mostly left alone with it, the City or Location where the Killings took place are visited by Politicians, a lot of talking about Sorrow,Grief and Hope and thats it. It happened in Newtown,Las Vegas,Dayton,El Paso and so on. Again,dont get me wrong,i fully understand the complex Situation within the Society of the United States, especially the Discussion about Gun-Laws and Efforts to create a "Win-Win" within this Debate. Now, what happened After the Christchurch-Shootings is this: A whole Country demanded Response from his Leader,who showed up and met with survivors and familys of the Victims and immediatly decided to "change" something.Of course not the way how some People(like Tarrant) view the World but to try making something like Christchurch harder to happen again. After the shooting most of New Zealand Society demanded action and expressed what they want. And so it happened. Tasmania could be another Example, or especially Great Britian(or England?) who changed Things After Hungerford and Dunblane. I dont say that Bans and Restriction are the Answer, for example, Japan or China, they dont have much Guns,so their citicen use Knifes,Cleavers whatever they think will inflict Damage. I just think that the Reactions are (not always) the same in the United States while most other Countries (again,not always) take what happened serious and try to change. Thats why Tarrant is interesting to me, his wrong Choices caused a Society to be heard and listened by their Leaders.
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I'd have to say that I relate to Pekka-Eric Auvinen the most because of the social anxiety and depressive aspects, experiencing teasing/bullying, and having spent most of our formative years on the internet.
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I will say however that Charles Whitman's upbringing reminds me a lot of my own

Damn, I'm really sorry to hear that. I hope things are better now.

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Daniil Zasorin was active on YouTube and left a video that he recorded the night before the attack. In it, Zasorin revealed that he would like to go back to the time when he was little and everything was easy. Here's a part of the transcript:

“Today, instead of going to the hospital, I walked around the places where I spent my childhood. If I were asked at what time I would like to time travel, I’d say two options. First: childhood. When I had a playstation. I played games, I did not bother about anything. The second one is when I was at school ... when I had friends” ... “Well, what could you do? If I had just called Danka (Daniil’s best friend) ... I would have told him: "Tomorrow this will happen." Well, what would he do? ... Nobody could’ve stop this”.

I feel like this is a common theme with rampage killers. Eric Harris, Randy Stair, and Elliott Rodger had this same fixation on their childhood and the past, for example.

Anyway to answer the question, I think you can feel some degree of sympathy (without condoning) for most of them if you look at their backgrounds, especially if there was a strong history of childhood abuse, mental illness, social isolation, etc. Many of these killers had some really sad and depressing lives. I see these incidents as sort of exemplifying a limitation of our society right now when it comes to identifying and treating mental problems and trauma.

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Ted Kaczynski, not a mass shooter but MkUltra is brutal
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For the most Seung-Hui Cho, Adam Lanza, and Pekka-Eric Auvinen. Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold too, but not that much like the first three.

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Jeff Wise had a horrible life. Without at all condoning what he did, I believe everyone who would read his bio will at least feel sorry for him for his experiences before the shooting.

There are a lot of shooters that appeared to be very mentally ill, for example Cho or Randy Stair or Lanza. They needed professional high quality mental health help that they did not get. Again just to be clear: That does not make their crimes any less ugly or their victims any less worthy of respect.

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Although he's not a mass shooter, i sympathize with Feng Guohui. Poor guy was tormented to the point of taking all his rage to killing.
Damn! I just read that article. That’s one of the worst lives of any mass killer that I’ve heard of.

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Although he's not a mass shooter, i sympathize with Feng Guohui. Poor guy was tormented to the point of taking all his rage to killing.
Damn! I just read that article. That’s one of the worst lives of any mass killer that I’ve heard of.
The story is very depressing and I can't really blame him on his rage, even though he killed six people. The sexual abuses details were disgusting to read. I would really, really like to know if he's still alive. But, I think his case was completely forgotten and there's also the possible death sentence he might faced that we did never knew since it wasn't reported late in media. Strangely enough, I searched his Chinese name (冯国辉) on Google and found one article about a porcelain artist. By pure coincidence, it said he began his career in 1997, so I quickly put it on Google Translate to see if it was Feng, but it was instead the article about the porcelain artist career.

Also, one which is a mass shooter, Johann Gautsch, did had a very depressing life as well, in his biography he sounded so frustrated with every defeat he faced at his life.

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