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PostSubject: Graphic Discussion    Graphic Discussion  Icon_minitimeTue Nov 20, 2018 6:17 am

Discussion over the graphics of Columbine.


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PostSubject: Re: Graphic Discussion    Graphic Discussion  Icon_minitimeTue Nov 20, 2018 7:02 am

I'm not sure why you are so obsessed with this but, people were getting shot close blank with shotguns. It's not going to be tame.

Some you wouldn't even know what you are looking at. Like a butchers shop display basically. A lot of blood.

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PostSubject: Re: Graphic Discussion    Graphic Discussion  Icon_minitimeTue Nov 20, 2018 6:54 pm

It would be horrible. Like the guy above me said, kids getting shot up close with shotguns. There bodies would be mangled and the amount of blood everywhere would be insane. It would have been very graphic.
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PostSubject: Re: Graphic Discussion    Graphic Discussion  Icon_minitimeWed Nov 21, 2018 2:35 am

Why ask again for a purely hypothetical answer?

It ain't gonna be PG13...
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PostSubject: Re: Graphic Discussion    Graphic Discussion  Icon_minitimeWed Nov 21, 2018 3:13 am

Nobody needs to see these pictures out of anything but a morbid curiosity. The suicide pictures are bad enough. Better to remember the victims as they were in life, not death.
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PostSubject: Re: Graphic Discussion    Graphic Discussion  Icon_minitimeWed Nov 21, 2018 6:33 pm

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Nobody needs to see these pictures out of anything but a morbid curiosity. The suicide pictures are bad enough. Better to remember the victims as they were in life, not death.

Seems like weird logic to me. 

I think they should be released if for no other reason than I hate restrictions on the free flow of information.

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PostSubject: Re: Graphic Discussion    Graphic Discussion  Icon_minitimeSat Apr 24, 2021 2:40 am

There are sites that have numerous pictures of people who've died from gunshot wounds to the head, either by murder or suicide. Photos and even video footage of mass shootings are not hard to find.

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PostSubject: Re: Graphic Discussion    Graphic Discussion  Icon_minitimeSat Apr 24, 2021 3:03 am

it would be horrible.  Blood everywhere, considering some died point blank.  A horror
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PostSubject: Re: Graphic Discussion    Graphic Discussion  Icon_minitimeFri Apr 30, 2021 6:58 pm

I hope they do get released or leaked one day soon. I cannot imagine being denied this for any reason. I need to see them.
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PostSubject: Re: Graphic Discussion    Graphic Discussion  Icon_minitimeSun May 02, 2021 6:56 pm

I think that some of the victims would look as bad or even worse than Eric did in the suicide photo, considering they were shot point blank with a shotgun. Honestly, I think it would be interesting to see them but I doubt they will ever be released. The victims families will never allow them to be.

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PostSubject: Re: Graphic Discussion    Graphic Discussion  Icon_minitimeTue May 04, 2021 4:32 pm

Speaking of the families of the victims, do you think that maybe some of them have never even seen those pictures? For example, Cassie's family, since she received a direct shot to the face. I can’t imagine seeing my child with a blown head.


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PostSubject: Re: Graphic Discussion    Graphic Discussion  Icon_minitimeTue May 04, 2021 5:28 pm

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Speaking of the families of the victims, do you think that maybe some of them have never even seen those pictures? For example, Cassie's family, since she received a direct shot to the face. I can’t imagine seeing my child with a blown head.

I remember that video where it was shown how Rachel's body was dragged behind a truck in the middle of the news channel in full view of everyone I don't know if Rachel's parents saw it.
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PostSubject: Re: Graphic Discussion    Graphic Discussion  Icon_minitimeThu May 20, 2021 6:37 am

There's something mentally wrong with people who want to see those pics. Imagine if it were your child or loved one, would you want to see pics of their dead body that was torn apart by bullets? My uncle was a cop for over 20 years, he dealt with alot of victims he always said the worst were the gunshot victims bc some victims were unrecognizable bc of the damage a bullet did to them. Those pics were most likely destroyed jefco and the FBI didn't need them and I doubt anyone has them , crime scene photos with victims are handled differently than the actual crime scene, Vic photos are kept separate and only seen by very few people. Thank God those pics are gone forever.
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PostSubject: Re: Graphic Discussion    Graphic Discussion  Icon_minitimeThu May 20, 2021 10:30 am

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There's something mentally wrong with people who want to see those pics. Imagine if it were your child or loved one, would you want to see pics of their dead body that was torn apart by bullets? My uncle was a cop for over 20 years, he dealt with alot of victims he always said the worst were the gunshot victims bc some victims were unrecognizable bc of the damage a bullet did to them. Those pics were most likely destroyed jefco and the FBI didn't need them and I doubt anyone has them , crime scene photos with victims are handled differently than the actual crime scene, Vic photos are kept separate and only seen by very few people. Thank God those pics are gone forever.
There isn't anything wrong with morbid curiosity, I do get what you are saying.
It just depends of the person if they want look at it or not.

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PostSubject: Re: Graphic Discussion    Graphic Discussion  Icon_minitimeSat May 22, 2021 3:02 am

It should depend on the victims family's they should decide if those photos are made public

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There's something mentally wrong with people who want to see those pics. Imagine if it were your child or loved one, would you want to see pics of their dead body that was torn apart by bullets? My uncle was a cop for over 20 years, he dealt with alot of victims he always said the worst were the gunshot victims bc some victims were unrecognizable bc of the damage a bullet did to them. Those pics were most likely destroyed jefco and the FBI didn't need them and I doubt anyone has them , crime scene photos with victims are handled differently than the actual crime scene, Vic photos are kept separate and only seen by very few people. Thank God those pics are gone forever.
There isn't anything wrong with morbid curiosity, I do get what you are saying.
It just depends of the person if they want look at it or not.
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PostSubject: Re: Graphic Discussion    Graphic Discussion  Icon_minitimeSat May 22, 2021 4:48 pm

If you feel a need to see those pictures than you need to seek help.

That is all.

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PostSubject: Re: Graphic Discussion    Graphic Discussion  Icon_minitimeSat May 22, 2021 5:21 pm

I agree....Why would you want to know how bad it was? A Shotgun....point blank range to a persons head....How graphic? You must be stupid

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PostSubject: Re: Graphic Discussion    Graphic Discussion  Icon_minitimeSun May 23, 2021 1:29 am

It makes me angry that I can't view them. I want to be as close as possible to being there on the day. The angles, the flash, the eerie stillness of it all. But neurotypicals always have to spoil the fun.

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PostSubject: Re: Graphic Discussion    Graphic Discussion  Icon_minitimeMon May 24, 2021 12:58 pm

It makes you angry that you can't view the photos of the dead kids in the library? Spoil the fun? Shotgun wounds so severe that you wouldn't be able to figure out what is what. Like a butchers window/counter.

I hope someone is keeping a close eye on you! You seem very dangerous.

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PostSubject: Re: Graphic Discussion    Graphic Discussion  Icon_minitimeMon May 24, 2021 1:33 pm

Apparently there was a folder dedicated to the crime scene photos created by JeffCO. It was given to some people after the massacre. This folder contained images of victims up close, far away, intimate parts of them such as their faces. The fact that it was at some point technically in public hands and has never been released says a lot. These photos would be so disturbing that they would mentally scar anyone who viewed them. Also, Randy Brown is an example of someone who had this folder at some point, he mentions it in his book.

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PostSubject: Re: Graphic Discussion    Graphic Discussion  Icon_minitimeMon May 24, 2021 11:43 pm

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It makes me angry that I can't view them. I want to be as close as possible to being there on the day. The angles, the flash, the eerie stillness of it all. But neurotypicals always have to spoil the fun.

I'm autistic. I'm a library survivor. Do you have any idea what you're saying here?

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PostSubject: Re: Graphic Discussion    Graphic Discussion  Icon_minitimeTue May 25, 2021 4:15 pm

This may sound insensitive, but there are lots of extremely graphic pictures of dead kids (usually from war zones or high crime rate shitholes developing countries) on the internet. What’s so different about the Columbine aftermath photos that no one should see them? I get why the victims’ family members would not want them released, what I fail to understand is why random morbidly curious people need to “seek help” for something that is not a disorder.

(Just for the record, I don’t particularly care whether the pictures will be released or not.)
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PostSubject: Re: Graphic Discussion    Graphic Discussion  Icon_minitimeTue May 25, 2021 11:02 pm

I am not a snowflake, but person who is angry that he/she is not allowed to see pictures of dead people and complains that people who are not letting him/her see it are "spoiling the fun" certainly sounds in need of serious help.

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PostSubject: Re: Graphic Discussion    Graphic Discussion  Icon_minitimeTue May 25, 2021 11:12 pm

I mean I feel it’d be interesting to see how much damage shotguns do

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I mean I feel it’d be interesting to see how much damage shotguns do

Bestgore has plenty of those kinds of images if that's all you want to see

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I mean I feel it’d be interesting to see how much damage shotguns do

Bestgore has plenty of those kinds of images if that's all you want to see
They shut down in November last year.
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It makes you angry that you can't view the photos of the dead kids in the library? Spoil the fun? Shotgun wounds so severe that you wouldn't be able to figure out what is what. Like a butchers window/counter.

Believe me, I'm sure I've seen worse or equivalent and generally do not seek this kind of material. These are special, and are part of an iconic event that I wish I could have witnessed myself in person.

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I hope someone is keeping a close eye on you! You seem very dangerous.

Misanthropic, depressed, stuck in the past, given up? Yes. Dangerous (very)? Hardly.

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I'm autistic. I'm a library survivor. Do you have any idea what you're saying here?

I was being general. However, your status as a library survivor does not alter my position on the subject. I'm sorry if that comes across as brazen, but I prefer being honest. I am fully aware of what I'm saying, and don't see the problem.

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I am not a snowflake, but person who is angry that he/she is not allowed to see pictures of dead people and complains that people who are not letting him/her see it are "spoiling the fun" certainly sounds in need of serious help.

These pictures are not just of any "dead people" but those whose deaths are part of an incredibly iconic and nostalgic event in modern history. Admittedly, the idea of witnessing something so exclusive excites me, so I stand unrepented of viewing it as "fun".

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I mean I feel it’d be interesting to see how much damage shotguns do

If you are serious and have the stomach for it, watch the Ronnie McNutt video. You've been warned.

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It makes you angry that you can't view the photos of the dead kids in the library? Spoil the fun? Shotgun wounds so severe that you wouldn't be able to figure out what is what. Like a butchers window/counter.

Believe me, I'm sure I've seen worse or equivalent and generally do not seek this kind of material. These are special, and are part of an iconic event that I wish I could have witnessed myself in person.

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I hope someone is keeping a close eye on you! You seem very dangerous.

Misanthropic, depressed, stuck in the past, given up? Yes. Dangerous (very)? Hardly.

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I'm autistic. I'm a library survivor. Do you have any idea what you're saying here?

I was being general. However, your status as a library survivor does not alter my position on the subject. I'm sorry if that comes across as brazen, but I prefer being honest. I am fully aware of what I'm saying, and don't see the problem.

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I am not a snowflake, but person who is angry that he/she is not allowed to see pictures of dead people and complains that people who are not letting him/her see it are "spoiling the fun" certainly sounds in need of serious help.

These pictures are not just of any "dead people" but those whose deaths are part of an incredibly iconic and nostalgic event in modern history. Admittedly, the idea of witnessing something so exclusive excites me, so I stand unrepented of viewing it as "fun".

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If you are serious and have the stomach for it, watch the Ronnie McNutt video. You've been warned.
I’ve seen that video a lot.
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I mean I feel it’d be interesting to see how much damage shotguns do

Bestgore has plenty of those kinds of images if that's all you want to see
They shut down in November last year.

It did? Man, with it and LiveLeak gone I wonder if there's going to be anything left.

Anyways, to add my voice to the conversation, I would not be terribly interested in any crime scene photos. There are plenty of other shootings where victim photographs were published, or video of the shooting spree is available (prime example: Christchurch).
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Speaking of the families of the victims, do you think that maybe some of them have never even seen those pictures? For example, Cassie's family, since she received a direct shot to the face. I can’t imagine seeing my child with a blown head.

I remember that video where it was shown how Rachel's body was dragged behind a truck in the middle of the news channel in full view of everyone I don't know if Rachel's parents saw it.
Late to your post and you've probably already found this out by now, but yes. Rachel's mother saw the footage of her daughter's body being dragged. I have a link of her talking about viewing the footage if you're interested.

Regarding this topic, I don't think there's anything wrong with morbid curiosity, but it's odd with me with how Verse is saying that he "needs" to see these pictures. As significant as Columbine is in America's (recent-ish) history, I just don't understand why he feels the need to look at crime scene pictures of dead teenagers, especially considering the fact that victims like Cassie and Daniel Mauser were shot in the face/head at close range. Are you okay?

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PostSubject: Re: Graphic Discussion    Graphic Discussion  Icon_minitimeWed May 26, 2021 7:02 pm

I too understand morbid curiosity (I used to visit bestgore and liveleak for the exact same reason) but 'needing' to see those photos sounds a bit strange. Also getting angry over the fact that you can't see those photos and wanting to be 'as close to what happened as possible' seems quite obsessive. Not to mention that blaming it on neurotypicals is absolutely ridiculous as I think even an neurodivergent person wifh common sense would see that publicly releasing photos of dead teenagers would be a disrespectful thing to do. (I'm neurodivergent myself so am not just a neurotypical 'spoiling the fun').

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I too understand morbid curiosity (I used to visit bestgore and liveleak for the exact same reason) but 'needing' to see those photos sounds a bit strange. Also getting angry over the fact that you can't see those photos and wanting to be 'as close to what happened as possible' seems quite obsessive. Not to mention that blaming it on neurotypicals is absolutely ridiculous as I think even an neurodivergent person wifh common sense would see that publicly releasing photos of dead teenagers would be a disrespectful thing to do. (I'm neurodivergent myself so am not just a neurotypical 'spoiling the fun').

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I too understand morbid curiosity (I used to visit bestgore and liveleak for the exact same reason) but 'needing' to see those photos sounds a bit strange. Also getting angry over the fact that you can't see those photos and wanting to be 'as close to what happened as possible' seems quite obsessive. Not to mention that blaming it on neurotypicals is absolutely ridiculous as I think even an neurodivergent person wifh common sense would see that publicly releasing photos of dead teenagers would be a disrespectful thing to do. (I'm neurodivergent myself so am not just a neurotypical 'spoiling the fun').


Could I get that link?

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PostSubject: Re: Graphic Discussion    Graphic Discussion  Icon_minitimeThu May 27, 2021 11:06 am

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Speaking of the families of the victims, do you think that maybe some of them have never even seen those pictures? For example, Cassie's family, since she received a direct shot to the face. I can’t imagine seeing my child with a blown head.

I remember that video where it was shown how Rachel's body was dragged behind a truck in the middle of the news channel in full view of everyone I don't know if Rachel's parents saw it.
Late to your post and you've probably already found this out by now, but yes. Rachel's mother saw the footage of her daughter's body being dragged. I have a link of her talking about viewing the footage if you're interested.

Regarding this topic, I don't think there's anything wrong with morbid curiosity, but it's odd with me with how Verse is saying that he "needs" to see these pictures. As significant as Columbine is in America's (recent-ish) history, I just don't understand why he feels the need to look at crime scene pictures of dead teenagers, especially considering the fact that victims like Cassie and Daniel Mauser were shot in the face/head at close range. Are you okay?

Sorry to reply late too, I don't think I have seen that video so I would be interested, thanks for replying. It must be very heartbreaking to see your daughter's body being dragged like this, I can't imagine the pain her parents must have felt
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PostSubject: Re: Graphic Discussion    Graphic Discussion  Icon_minitimeThu May 27, 2021 5:00 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Can you delete this post please?

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PostSubject: Re: Graphic Discussion    Graphic Discussion  Icon_minitimeThu May 27, 2021 6:08 pm

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@Jenn Can you delete this post please?
To be fair, it’s an interesting discussion. You could just edit the OP and say that you don’t care about this thread anymore, or something like that.
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PostSubject: Re: Graphic Discussion    Graphic Discussion  Icon_minitimeThu May 27, 2021 8:59 pm

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Can you delete this post please?
To be fair, it’s an interesting discussion. You could just edit the OP and say that you don’t care about this thread anymore, or something like that.
I agree with [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]. Also, it wouldn't really be fair to delete the entire topic because so many people have contributed to it. You can redact your posts in this thread if you'd like.

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PostSubject: Re: Graphic Discussion    Graphic Discussion  Icon_minitimeThu May 27, 2021 10:57 pm

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Can you delete this post please?
To be fair, it’s an interesting discussion. You could just edit the OP and say that you don’t care about this thread anymore, or something like that.
I agree with [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]. Also, it wouldn't really be fair to delete the entire topic because so many people have contributed to it. You can redact your posts in this thread if you'd like.

You're Right. The only reason i wanted it deleted is because i thought people were gonna start attacking me over something i wrote two years ago (because i was dumb at the time). But IDC anymore. I'll change it that way people can talk about evidence from the library or outside

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