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When the V-Tech shooting was hot off the press, the news was saying that Cho murdered Emily Hilscher because he was secretly in love with her and jealous of her boyfriend, or she was his ex-girlfriend and it was a lovers' tiff gone wrong. There's no evidence he even knew who she was. Reporters just pulled that out of their butt.

Eric and Dylan are gay.

When the 2016 munich shooting happened people first claimed the perpetrators where 3 arabic man with long rifles and as that turned out to be false a tourist claimed Ali David Sonboly screamed "allahu ackbar" before firing.
Later as people knew one of the real motives ( his dislike for muslims) it was still not proven that he didnt scream it at the beginning but if he did it was meant as some sort of sarcastic joke that he screamed before shooting muslim looking youths.

emanresu wrote:

sympathyforEandD wrote:

When the V-Tech shooting was hot off the press, the news was saying that Cho murdered Emily Hilscher because he was secretly in love with her and jealous of her boyfriend, or she was his ex-girlfriend and it was a lovers' tiff gone wrong. There's no evidence he even knew who she was. Reporters just pulled that out of their butt.

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That's very interesting. Sending blank text messages and using an alias does sound like something Cho would do. And he began texting her only two months before the shooting? Was Emily the last girl Cho attempted to communicate with, and he shot her because she was yet another girl who "rejected" him, I wonder?

I remember when the Sandy Hook shooting happened people said that Adam had a file in his computer with things that made him angry. It's like he was conditioning himself to be angry all the time to actually commit murder

When sandy hook happened the first report I read said that Ryan and Adam had shot up the school together

On my local news they reported Eric and Dylan were wearing black masks, swastika arm bands, machine guns and were in their 20's.

One newspaper article falsely reported that 25 people died in Columbine.

There were reports that 25 people were injured by Derrick Bird, it was actually 11.

Anders Breivik was a paranoid schizophrenic (I know he was diagnosed with it before his trial, but it makes as much sense as Omar Mateen being bipolar).

Also, Omar Mateen was secretly gay/bisexual.

People actually thought David Katz shot up the tournament because he got angry after losing. Even Mister Metokur fell for it.

A news website actually said that Lanza yelled, “I am the devil!” while shooting up Sandy Hook.

Primate Murder wrote:

People actually thought David Katz shot up the tournament because he got angry after losing. Even Mister Metokur fell for it.

Wait a second, when was this disproved? I guess you could argue that the shooting was premeditated to some degree since he brought his guns with him, but other than that, what's the actual reason he did it?

QuestionMark wrote:

Primate Murder wrote:

People actually thought David Katz shot up the tournament because he got angry after losing. Even Mister Metokur fell for it.

Wait a second, when was this disproved? I guess you could argue that the shooting was premeditated to some degree since he brought his guns with him, but other than that, what's the actual reason he did it?

I personally believe the shooting was motivated by a personal grudge against Eli Clayton. Before the shooting, Clayton did bully Katz in some ways. Katz even shot Clayton four times in the head and once in the chest. Clayton was even the first guy he shot. Everything after that was most likely a power trip. Robertson was shot only once. Katz even willingly spared the person he lost to.

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Primate Murder wrote:

People actually thought David Katz shot up the tournament because he got angry after losing. Even Mister Metokur fell for it.

Wait a second, when was this disproved? I guess you could argue that the shooting was premeditated to some degree since he brought his guns with him, but other than that, what's the actual reason he did it?

I personally believe the shooting was motivated by a personal grudge against Eli Clayton. Before the shooting, Clayton did bully Katz in some ways. Katz even shot Clayton four times in the head and once in the chest. Clayton was even the first guy he shot. Everything after that was most likely a power trip. Robertson was shot only once. Katz even willingly spared the person he lost to.

So there is not any evidence disproving this.

true_crime wrote:

Primate Murder wrote:

Primate Murder wrote:

People actually thought David Katz shot up the tournament because he got angry after losing. Even Mister Metokur fell for it.

Wait a second, when was this disproved? I guess you could argue that the shooting was premeditated to some degree since he brought his guns with him, but other than that, what's the actual reason he did it?

I personally believe the shooting was motivated by a personal grudge against Eli Clayton. Before the shooting, Clayton did bully Katz in some ways. Katz even shot Clayton four times in the head and once in the chest. Clayton was even the first guy he shot. Everything after that was most likely a power trip. Robertson was shot only once. Katz even willingly spared the person he lost to.

So there is not any evidence disproving this.

The only evidence disproving the lose theory is the fact that Katz pointed his gun at the person he lost to but decided not to shoot him and he moved the laser pointer away. I forgot to mention the fact that the person Katz lost to even believed that the shooting wasn't motivated by anger after losing.

Vladislav Roslyakov tortured cats. A neighbor claimed he did this, but his mother said he never harmed any animals. I'm not sure if it's actually false, but I think it probably is.

I heard one of the first news articles reported William Atchison in addition to killing Francisco Fernandez and Casey Marque also injured 15 others, but this was OBVIOUSLY false

Media claimed "Nancy lanza worked at sandy hook". However this was never proven and is widely considered to be false.

False: Federico Guevara was part of ''Legión Holk''.

True: The Secretariat of the Interior ruled out that Federico belonged to Legión Holk. However, the federal police's electronic crimes division found out that he was member of a similar group that had been created recently, but it's worth mentioning that he didn't leave any activity.


False: Yezmín Betts Llanes, José Ángel's mother, was murdered.

True: Yezmín died from a complication caused by diabetes and metabolic ketoacidosis in 2014.

There were a lot of reports that Nancy Lanza was a doomsday prepper. She was not. It was a false rumor based on speculation from her sister-in-law who hadn’t seen her for years.

Burn wrote:

False: Yezmín Betts Llanes, José Ángel's mother, was murdered.

True: Yezmín died from a complication caused by diabetes and metabolic ketoacidosis in 2014.

Also, the grandmother of Angel Betts was the one who was murdered.


Another false fact: That it was seen on the cctv of Weis market that Randy Stair walked behind Kristen N. (the surviving victim), and then went away + Kristen didn’t noticed that there was a shooting because she was listening to music.
It’s all false, and it gets repeated a lot, because it’s on the Wikipedia article of the shooting.
Kristen did notice what was going on, because she was next to the girl that died when she was shot. Then Randy and Kristen stared at each-other for a few seconds, and Stair walked away.

Many media says that guilherme taucci was a fan of bolsonaro, when he hate the goverment until his last moments.

I still see this image circulating sometimes:
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It was a hoax.
Also, this:
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Some say that Adam Lanza posted about his attack on 4chan too.
It is true that someone did suggest their suicide said they were in Conneticut, posting the Columbine suicide picture along with it. However, the IP address was investigated and found to not belong to Adam.

Someone who claimed to be in class with Adam said he would shout “Du Hast” a lot (presumably in reference in the Rammstein song.)
There is overwhelming evidence that this was not the case, and the person, one Bryan Applegate, was in all likelihood lying for attention (or, to give him the benefit of the doubt, confusing Adam with someone else somehow.)

It was said that Adam Lanza had a website where he worshiped the devil and with Gothic letters with the word "Devil", this is false since that site never existed. Other rumors about Lanza being satanic is that a classmate supposedly said that Adam was a devil worshiper.

Some initial reports said Eric and Dylan were wearing masks.
The instagram account nibba_leader was initially reported to belong to Nathaniel Berhow due to it's post "Saugus have fun at school tomorrow" but it was later revealed to be an edgy meme account cashing in on the shooting for attention. This was confirmed when the account posted a picture of a clown after the shooting was over and Berhow was brain dead. Nathaniel's actual account was apparently yt._natha_n, but I haven't found any pictures or information about it.

HURRIKANE wrote:

The ATF originally claimed that Steven Kazmierczak used a Remington Model 870, but then later claimed he used a Remington Sportsman Model 48. All of the witness accounts claim that Steven used a pump action shotgun as well. I have attempted to reach out to the ATF in order to get photographs of the Shotgun used in the Shooting, but was denied multiple times.

I remember reading in Last Day on Earth that a potential reason the model of the gun didn't seem to be consistent between being a Model 870 and a Model 48 was because the ATF didn't want to have to admit that all the forms used to buy an 870 went through with the wrong model listed. Whether this is legitimate or not I have no idea.

When James Holmes was arrested he referred to himself as the Joker

A lot of media said that Guilherme  Taucci and Luiz de Castro had swastikas tattoos .That was never confirmed and is probably false.

A couple news stations said that Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold wore Marilyn Manson shirts during the Columbine shooting, which might have started some of the Marilyn Manson blame. I think the whole blame Manson got was idiotic. They didn't like him that much and even if they did, how is he responsible?

dyonqqr wrote:

Some initial reports said Eric and Dylan were wearing masks.
The instagram account nibba_leader was initially reported to belong to Nathaniel Berhow due to it's post "Saugus have fun at school tomorrow" but it was later revealed to be an edgy meme account cashing in on the shooting for attention. This was confirmed when the account posted a picture of a clown after the shooting was over and Berhow was brain dead. Nathaniel's actual account was apparently yt._natha_n, but I haven't found any pictures or information about it.

All I know about Nathan's actual account is that it's still up, and only has an XXXTENTACION profile picture, a few followers, and no posts.

Carnifex879 wrote:

All I know about Nathan's actual account is that it's still up, and only has an XXXTENTACION profile picture, a few followers, and no posts.

I had no clue it was still up, I'm an idiot, thank you. (Link.)

Anthony "T.J." Solomon (1999 Heritage High School shooting):
News reports said his girlfriend broke up with him shortly before the attack. In reality, he did not have a girlfriend.
The news also said he was bullied, which he was not.
Also, the claims that he brought a gun to school prior to the shooting were unable to be substantiated.

After Michael Andrew Clark's sniper attack in 1965, some newspapers speculated whether he might be responsible for other Southern California sniping incidents. He was not.

Nathaniel Berhow was initially considered one of the wounded in the Saugus High School shooting and the shooter was reported to have escaped. (Considering that he shot himself in the side of the head, I would understand the confusion.) If I recall correctly, though don't quote me on this, they only realized for sure when they reviewed the CCTV.

After the shooting, it was reported that José Ángel Ramos Betts used a .22 caliber pistol in addition to his .40 caliber Glock. In reality, he actually used a .25 caliber Raven MP-25. Source: Nueve disparos, Crónica del tiroteo escolar que sacudió a la nación

It was reported that Hayden Jagst had shot his own father with a rifle and fled the scene, but it was later found that Randy Brown and Bill Ockham had beaten the victim to death with hammers before drawing the pattern of Hayden's fingerprints in sharpie onto the grip of the gun.

Here's the police leak that broke any doubts of who the perpetrators were


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Sulejman Talović was claimed to have a Quran with him during the shooting and to have yelled something in a foreign language. He had no such thing (although he did have a Hamalija necklace) and the only things he said during the attack was telling someone to shut up and "fuck you" to responding police officers.

Also, I'm unsure if this is a widespread misconception or if I'm just stupid, but Cho's writen manifesto says "You thought it was one pathetic, void life that you were extinguishing." I (and no doubt others) thought from the video that it was "pathetic boy's life," or "pathetic bored life" as Luci's signature below me says.

Columbine: Eric and Dylan being popular, Dylan being a sad sweet and innocent emo boi who was only being forced by Eric

That Dylan Klebold informed Brooks about Eric's website when it was actually Brooks's brother who discovered it.

Las Vegas Shooting - There were multiple shooters in multiple hotels around the area

Many people believed that the door shown in the investigative video committee was knocked  by Vlad, but in reality it was by rescuers.

Some witnesses at Columbine thought that they saw a 3rd shooter with acne
The repairman on the roof of the school was also thought to be involved but that was proven false
Chris Morris (a friend of Eric and Dylan) was arrested because the police thought he had knowledge of their plan.

At first it was believed that there were 2 shooters when the Kazan school shooting happened

Following the Christchurch shootings, Tarrant told police there were nine other shooters, training centers "like minded individuals" in other areas, he was a member of the Reborn Knight's Templar, and in contact with Breivik. Some of these claims made it onto the news, but they turned out to be untrue.
Breivik made similar claims after his attack, if I recall correctly, suggesting an organization when he actually acted alone.

That Brenda parker was the Eric Harris  girlfriend  and she was going to participate in the Columbine attack. Also all the "moments" that she had with him, and they all being fake.

In the aftermath of almost all mass shootings, allegations of psychopathy and association with vaguely defined "incel culture" are often made on the news. These political talking points only sometimes align with reality. The real story and motives are too complicated to fit into a newsbite and thus are often discarded, replaced with simpler explanations.

On a more specific note, about Wirjo (1987 Banjarsari attack):
"It was reported that prior to the massacre Wirjo had fasted for a month and that he had also dug up his mother's corpse in the graveyard to gnaw on her bones, though other reports indicated no such thing had happened, instead relating that she was still alive at that time." It's unclear which, if either, is true. (Source.)

Anton Niclas Lundin Pettersson's helmet was widely reported to be a Darth Vader mask. Needless to say, it was not.