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Guy sounds like a real asshole. I guess now we know how he got all those properties, and millions of dollars.

‘He stole my house’: Nova Scotia killer had history of dubious financial practices
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My suspicion is that it's become a pattern with the RCMP to pretend the motive is unknown in rampage killings, to the greatest degree possible. In the 2016 La Loche shooting they claimed the same thing, while people who knew the shooter and witnessed the shooting said the motive was bullying. They also claimed the motive and degree of premeditation was unknown in the 2019 northern BC homicides, yet refused to release most of the information on the investigation, making many people think they know a lot more about it than they let on.

In all fairness cops are some of the dumbest people on the planet. Consider how many times cops in general have fucked up in apprehending many different kinds of criminals and have bought into lies that couldn't fool a toddler, and the idea that they literally cannot understand a perpetrator's motives and degree of pre-meditation even when directly told becomes incredibly plausible (as a matter of fact this has actually, literally happened so many times it's comedic).

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I'm not familiar enough with Canada, their media, or their police. Do you think the RCMP will release how the shooter died? Obviously, gun shot I'm sure. But I would like to know if he shot himself or if cops shot him. I know I've read he died in a confrontation with the police, but none of the articles ever state if they exchanged fire. I would assume that means police shot him, but he could have turned the gun on himself when they showed up.

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Here a news article of him in 2014 [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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I'm not familiar enough with Canada, their media, or their police. Do you think the RCMP will release how the shooter died? Obviously, gun shot I'm sure. But I would like to know if he shot himself or if cops shot him. I know I've read he died in a confrontation with the police, but none of the articles ever state if they exchanged fire. I would assume that means police shot him, but he could have turned the gun on himself when they showed up.

It's entirely possible they won't.

For reference about the RCMP's general level of secrecy, in the northern BC homicides case last summer:

*The RCMP didn't even release the information that the first two victims (Chynna Deese and Lucas Fowler) had been murdered, until three days after they were killed. (There are questions on whether earlier warning would have prevented additional murders.) They also didn't release that they were killed with guns -- it was leaked to the press.

*The RCMP did not release the cause of death for the third victim (Leonard Dyck) at all, until 2.5 months later. Even then, they provided very incomplete details on the murder (and whatever happened, it was really weird, so, there's a LOT of questions) and some of the details contradicted others. They also, for some reason, literally got Google Maps to remove the Street View for the entire 30-mile stretch of highway between towns where the murder took place. They recently put some of it back, but the section they put back was south of where all the crime scenes were.

*While the killers (Kam McLeod and Bryer Schmegelsky) were on the run, the RCMP told the public in a press conference that they "didn't even know what they were armed with," despite knowing what type of weapons were used in the murders.

*There were three gunshots heard by locals while the RCMP were investigating an alleged sighting of them. The RCMP initially denied it happened, then admitted it happened the next day but said that "an officer got lost and shot in the air to signal his location" (which makes no sense for a variety of reasons). But anyway, they lied about it at first.

*They did release the cause of death as "suicide by gunfire" after Kam and Bryer's bodies were found, yet didn't reveal until several weeks later that Kam killed Bryer and then himself. They also didn't reveal the location of the gunshot wounds, although Bryer's dad later told the press that he was shot in the back of the head. And they never revealed the approximate date of death either.

*They claim to not know when they recorded the videos they made on the run, even though they were recorded on a camera that must have exif data. The existence of the videos was also only revealed because it was leaked to the press.

*Even their families haven't gotten much more information than the general public, according to interviews.

There's lots of other examples of missing information, but, you get the idea. And half the information we do have is because the media went to court and got the judge to unseal some documents, which the RCMP never intended for the public to see. So basically, that's the level of secrecy we're dealing with here.
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Nova Scotia Gunman Was Not a Legal Firearms Owner, RCMP Says

The man who committed the worst ever mass killing in modern Canadian history did not have a firearms licence.

Nova Scotia RCMP Chief Superintendent Chris Leather said during a press conference Wednesday afternoon just how the killer obtained firearms is “a key part of the investigation.”

Leather didn’t clarify what firearms were used by the killer or how many people were killed by gunshots and later added that how the killer obtained an “authentic police uniform” is also a “key part of the investigation.”

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They set up a perimeter and searched the property, but only realized the killer wasn’t there early Sunday morning.

[...]

Amid the worst-ever mass killing in modern Canadian history, Americans living in Nova Scotia received a warning to their personal emails while Canadians had to rely on Twitter or the media.

The U.S. consulate in Halifax confirmed to VICE they sent an email out to U.S. citizens on Sunday. Marcia Seitz-Ehler, a spokesperson for the consulate, said that they got their information from the RCMP Twitter account.

“It is our protocol—when emergencies occur—to alert U.S. citizens in the area to the situation,” Seitz-Ehler told VICE.

While the RCMP had access to a far more powerful tool than an email blast—an emergency alert which could have notified all Nova Scotians via their phone. Leather said Wednesday that the province reached out to send out a release and the RCMP were in the midst of planning to release an emergency alert when the suspect was killed. The province initially reached out at 10:15, over an hour before Wortman was killed, and Leather said the delay was bureaucratic in nature.

“A lot of the delay was due to communication between the (Emergency Management Office) and the various officers,” said Leather. “And then there was a discussion about how the message would be constructed and what it would say. So in that hour and a bit is when the subject was killed at 11:26.”

Some loved ones of the victims have said the RMCP could have saved lives if they asked the province to send an emergency alert out.

[...]

Trudeau also said his government was looking to bring forward a ban on "assault-style weapons."

SIRT investigating RCMP activity at Onslow Belmont firehall during Sunday's shooting rampage

“Our video surveillance does not capture the shooters but does show two people who appear to be RCMP officers enter our property, one to the front and one to the rear,” the posting continues. "One of these people enters our hall at the front but no one who is sheltered inside the hall spoke with the people/person resembling the RCMP officer so we (cannot) confirm why they were there. No one identified themselves as an RCMP officer. They left our property shortly after the gunfire. We have since been contacted by SIRT (the Serious Incident Response Team) and are co-operating with their ongoing investigation. Fortunately no one was physically injured.”

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Joy McCabe, who lives directly beside the firehall, was looking out her kitchen window while cooking breakfast when an RCMP vehicle suddenly stopped in the middle of road. She said two officers got out and both immediately began firing multiple rounds.

“And while I’m looking, that car pulled up right there in the middle of the road, opened both doors and started shooting. And then I remembered seeing just a little blurb on my Facebook about shooting and I said ‘I think the guy’s here that was doing some shooting.’ And down I got and went into the bedroom. I didn’t know where to go at that time.”

McCabe said after the officers finished shooting, they moved up a little closer and crouched down behind a wooden garbage bin near the edge of the road.

After the shooting stopped, McCabe said she went back to the window, at which point she noticed someone crouched down between two vehicles in the firehall parking lot.

“After I got a little more comfortable and my husband said there wasn’t anything going on, I look and there was a guy down between two cars,” she said. “All I could see was the top of the head, I could see that it was a shaven head (like a brush cut), you know. And I don’t know why, I just thought, 'Why is he ducking and hiding if isn’t, you know, it’s got to be the shooter.'”

She later learned the shooter had already passed through the area.

Nova Scotia gunman charged with assaulting a 15-year-old boy in 2001

Matthew said he was just 15 years old when an allegedly drunk Gabriel Wortman assaulted him outside a denture clinic in Dartmouth, N.S., almost 20 years ago.

It was the fall of 2001 when Matthew said he was waiting to catch a ride home at a bus stop in front of 193 Portland St., the same address as Wortman’s Atlantic Denture Clinic.

That’s when the denturist came outside screaming that the teenager was too close to his business.

“He came out, I guess, in a half-drunken rage and ended up punching me as many times in the head as he could,” said Matthew, who is now 34 and works in sales in Dartmouth. Global News has chosen not to reveal Matthew’s full name as he was a minor at the time of the assault.

“Then he had a friend who came over from around the corner and hit me with a crowbar,” Matthew said. “Then the two men stomped on my head and all over my body.”
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Nova Scotia Gunman Was Not a Legal Firearms Owner, RCMP Says

The man who committed the worst ever mass killing in modern Canadian history did not have a firearms licence.

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Trudeau also said his government was looking to bring forward a ban on "assault-style weapons."

What a big brained take. Disarm everybody even though the guns were acquired illegally.

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Nova Scotia gunman charged with assaulting a 15-year-old boy in 2001

Matthew said he was just 15 years old when an allegedly drunk Gabriel Wortman assaulted him outside a denture clinic in Dartmouth, N.S., almost 20 years ago.

It was the fall of 2001 when Matthew said he was waiting to catch a ride home at a bus stop in front of 193 Portland St., the same address as Wortman’s Atlantic Denture Clinic.

That’s when the denturist came outside screaming that the teenager was too close to his business.

“He came out, I guess, in a half-drunken rage and ended up punching me as many times in the head as he could,” said Matthew, who is now 34 and works in sales in Dartmouth. Global News has chosen not to reveal Matthew’s full name as he was a minor at the time of the assault.

“Then he had a friend who came over from around the corner and hit me with a crowbar,” Matthew said. “Then the two men stomped on my head and all over my body.”

"Wortman, who was 33 at the time of the arrest, ultimately pleaded guilty in January 2002 and was given a conditional discharge and nine months’ probation. He was also ordered to stay away from the victim, according to the documents.
“I think there should have been a little bit more justice there,” Matthew said."

I side with the kid. Other people who have committed comparably crimes received multi-year prison terms (though they couldn't afford good lawyers, I'm sure this guy had some cash to burn).

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What a big brained take. Disarm everybody even though the guns were acquired illegally.

Exactly...that's why I put that statement in bold...to highlight the stupidity Very Happy

The other reason it's stupid is, with the amount of time it took for the police to actually bother to respond, he could have used literally any weapon and still killed the same amount of people.

And the third reason it's stupid is...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Assault_Weapons_Ban#Effects

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I side with the kid. Other people who have committed comparably crimes received multi-year prison terms (though they couldn't afford good lawyers, I'm sure this guy had some cash to burn).

I wonder if he even had to go to anger management classes. Like seriously, who does that?

This guy had a long pattern of violent and criminal behavior and was literally able to get away with it for decades because he was rich. Even though it sounds like he got rich mostly by scamming people.
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Does anyone know which particular firearms Wortman used?
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What a big brained take. Disarm everybody even though the guns were acquired illegally.

Exactly...that's why I put that statement in bold...to highlight the stupidity Very Happy

The other reason it's stupid is, with the amount of time it took for the police to actually bother to respond, he could have used literally any weapon and still killed the same amount of people.

And the third reason it's stupid is...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Assault_Weapons_Ban#Effects

Indeed. As to your second point, it's definitely very possible, take a look at these two shootings in the UK:
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Does anyone know which particular firearms Wortman used?

The police know, but they aren't talking. This is another reason why the push for more gun control sounds absurd; we don't even know if their proposed restrictions would've prevented him from owning the guns he had.

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I'm guessing at least one handgun, one rifle and possibly some incendiary devices.
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So not only does this guy scam people out of their houses, beat up teenage boys, and murder 22 people, but he also goes to parties during a pandemic. What a model citizen Rolling Eyes

Also, some change in information here. Originally the news said his girlfriend was his ex, and she was murdered along with her new boyfriend. Now apparently it turns out they were still together, she didn't have a new boyfriend, and she was injured but not killed. From a criminological perspective, it's very interesting that he didn't kill her, and it sounds like she may not have even been shot.

Nova Scotia shootings began after gunman attacked his girlfriend, sources say

"The killings that began Saturday night in the rural Nova Scotia community of Portapique and ended the next morning with the death of the gunman at a gas station started with domestic violence when Gabriel Wortman attacked his girlfriend, sources tell Global News.

Investigators believe Wortman and his girlfriend were at a party at a nearby home in the Portapique area when Wortman began arguing with her. They left the party and sources believe Wortman escalated the argument back at his cottage — assaulting her and tying her up. She escaped and hid in the woods.

Wortman left his cottage after the assault and investigators believe that’s when the shootings started. He returned to the house where the party was being held and killed several people there, sources said."

"Police found Wortman’s girlfriend around 7 a.m. local, sources said. It was from her they learned he was likely dressed as a police officer and driving a fake cruiser. She also provided the picture of the vehicle that was widely distributed. The information changed the way police were searching for Wortman.

Police first tweeted about Wortman at 9:04 a.m. local time Sunday. Less than an hour later they tweeted again warning he may be driving what “appears to be an RCMP vehicle & may be wearing an RCMP uniform.”"

"A member of the RCMP’s Emergency Response Team and an RCMP K9 officer spotted Wortman at a gas station in Enfield, N.S., when they stopped there. Wortman realized the police had spotted him and went for his gun but the highly trained ERT officer shot and killed him before he could fire on police, sources said."

[Wasn't there a shootout that people witnessed, though?]

RCMP defend not sending emergency alert before Nova Scotia gunman was killed

"The decision to finally issue an alert came many hours after the province activated its Emergency Management Office (EMO), which had contacted police multiple times about sending an alert but never received a request from the RCMP to do so."

"Families of some victims have wondered aloud whether some of the 22 people killed over the weekend may have been spared if more people had known a gunman was on the loose.

The Chief Superintendent, however, said he was “very satisfied” with the messaging that went out to officers and to the public on Twitter,"

"Nathan Staples, a man from Glenholme, N.S., who lives about 15 minutes from where the killing began Saturday night, said investigators told him Tuesday that they found his name on a list obtained when the RCMP searched the Portapique property of the shooter, a 51-year-old denturist.

Mr. Staples believes this is why a heavily armed tactical officer appeared at his home after midnight Saturday, while the killer was still on the loose, having evaded police while driving a look-alike RCMP cruiser and wearing an officer’s uniform. His neighbours did not have a similar visit, he said.

“The investigator said I was seventh or eighth on the list. I didn’t know what to think,” Mr. Staples said. “He came to apologize. He said ‘we’re sorry we couldn’t have been there quicker.’ That’s when I got angry.”

He and the shooter once shared an interest in old police cars, but Mr Staples says he can’t guess why gunman Gabriel Wortman would have had him on a list – other than a few months earlier, he had declined to sell a used police car to him. The RCMP said they couldn’t discuss any specifics of their investigation.

There are growing questions around others areas of the Mounties’ manhunt – including how the killer managed to evade police for as long as he did, escaping a perimeter around the initial shootings.

“How was this allowed to happen?” Mr. Staples said. “How could they not stop it? How could this go on for more than 12 hours, when this guy was still out there, shooting people? This was a royal screw-up.”"

"At times during the chaotic hours after the shootings began, it wasn’t always clear who police were chasing. At one point during the manhunt, two Mounties shot bullets into a fire hall in Lower Onslow, N.S. The hall was being used as a Red Cross registration centre for evacuees from the Portapique area.

While no one was injured, that incident is now under investigation by the civilian oversight agency for police in Nova Scotia.

“We don’t know what they were shooting at,” said Pat Curran, interim director of the Serious Incident Response Team (SIRT), an independent body that investigates police actions. “We just know that the suspect was not in the area at that time.”

Four people, including one evacuee from Portapique Beach Road and Onslow Belmont Fire Brigade Chief Greg Muise, were inside the fire hall when gunfire exploded into the building Sunday at 10:30 a.m.

The RCMP has declined to answer questions about what happened. For the past two days, calls from the public have lit up Mr. Muise’s phone.

“I shouldn’t be the one getting calls,” Mr. Muise said. “[RCMP] should be the ones putting it out and letting people know what happened and they seem to be lagging on it.”"


"Police, meanwhile, are trying to piece together the connection between the victims, some of whom knew the killer, and some who appeared to have no connection at all. Among the victims are Lisa McCully, a school teacher, who rented a cottage from him on an adjacent property in Portapique. She was one of 13 neighbours killed in the area immediately surrounding the gunman’s home, as he lit houses on fire and shot people outside.

In some cases, the gunman drove significant distances to find his victims. Shawn McLeod, a former hunting buddy, was killed along with his wife, Alanna Jenkins, at their house in Wentworth, more than 50 kilometres from the killer’s home in Portapique. Their neighbour, Tom Bagley, was killed when he ran over to help Sunday morning.

Gina Goulet, a fellow denturist, was killed at her bungalow in the countryside outside Shubenacadie, more than 75 kms away from Portapique. It was also in Shubenacadie that the killer was in a shootout with the RCMP – a violent exchange that left Constable Heidi Stevenson dead and another Mountie injured. He wasn’t stopped until he reached Enfield, about half an hour north of Halifax, where two officers shot him dead.

Other shootings appeared to be completely random, including Lillian Hyslop, shot while walking her dog, a father named Joey Webber, out Sunday morning to get some furnace oil, and three people pulled over at the side of the road."
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According to this article, Wortman used a rifle, a shotgun and a handgun (all three of unknown types/manufacturers) during the shootings.

I'd be interested to know how he set the multiple fires.
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At this point, my question is, is there any crime this guy DIDN'T commit? Like, damn.

These new revelations also make the theory that he was a police informant more likely (as discussed in this article: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Which, if true, opens up a lot of questions, to say the least.

The government also finally agreed to hold an actual public inquiry after huge backlash when they refused to do so. I guess there's just too many affected families and too much to cover up at this point. Will be interested to see what will and will not come out. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

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Mass murderer Gabriel Wortman was a drug dealer and involved in running guns and drugs from Maine “for years,” including some 10,000 Oxycontin tablets and 15,000 tabs of Dilaudid during one haul, according to information ordered released by a Nova Scotia judge on Monday.

According to previously redacted portions of search warrant documents related to the RCMP’s investigation into the Nova Scotia mass shooting released today, Wortman may have used a reservation on the Maine-News Brunswick border to smuggle drugs into Canada.

The newly-released information suggests Wortman was a known drug dealer in the Portapique area, where he went on a murderous, 13-hour rampage April 18 and 19 that ended with 22 people dead.

The new details seem to lend credence to revelations published in Maclean’s in June that Wortman associated with bikers from the Hells Angels and at least one individual in the Portapique area with known ties to a Mexican drug cartel.

The article uncovered that Wortman had withdrawn some $475,000 from a Brink’s office weeks before his killing spree. The article speculated Wortman may have been an RCMP informant. The RCMP has denied any such connection to Wortman.

It seems more clear, given the newest revelations, that Wortman had ties to the criminal element.

The newly-released information also quotes several sources saying that Wortman had “secret hiding spots,” “secret compartments” and “false walls” in rooms at various properties he owned, including at his denture clinic in Dartmouth, where he stored guns and a high-powered rifle.

The Canada Border Services Agency has been investigating the source of illegal guns used by Wortman during his rampage.

Wortman, whose history of gender violence has also been the focus of women’s groups and the RCMP’s investigation, is also described as a “sexual predator” in the documents.

On Thursday, July 23, the federal government and government of Nova Scotia announced the formation of a three-person panel to review the circumstances surrounding the shooting, falling short of growing calls for a full public inquiry.
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These new revelations also make the theory that he was a police informant more likely (as discussed in this article: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Which, if true, opens up a lot of questions, to say the least.

Funny enough, I don't think this is the first time a police informant went berserk. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] would know better than I but IIRC there was a Muslim terrorist attack where one of the assailants was an informant.

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Mass murderer Gabriel Wortman was a drug dealer and involved in running guns and drugs from Maine “for years,” including some 10,000 Oxycontin tablets and 15,000 tabs of Dilaudid during one haul, according to information ordered released by a Nova Scotia judge on Monday.

It's almost like gun control won't work when criminals don't follow the laws...

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Funny enough, I don't think this is the first time a police informant went berserk. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] would know better than I but IIRC there was a Muslim terrorist attack where one of the assailants was an informant.

Breaking news: violent criminals commit violent crimes when given a free pass to do so.

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It's almost like gun control won't work when criminals don't follow the laws...

I guess they should have made drug dealing and sex crimes illegal too, in order to prevent him from...oh wait.

I also wonder just who he was informing on. Like who is out there in the tiny province of Nova Scotia who is doing even WORSE stuff in aggregate, than what this guy was doing?

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