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Subject: Re: The IQs of mass murderers (including attempted ones) Wed Jan 27, 2021 9:22 am
Barry Loukaitis - 116 Martin Bryant - 66 George Banks - 121 Michael Carneal - 120
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Subject: Re: The IQs of mass murderers (including attempted ones) Wed Jan 27, 2021 11:28 am
Charles Whitman - 139
Ted Kaczynski - 167
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Subject: Re: The IQs of mass murderers (including attempted ones) Thu Mar 04, 2021 6:31 pm
Chad Padilla, the Italy High School shooter, scored 117 on an IQ test.
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Subject: Re: The IQs of mass murderers (including attempted ones) Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:22 pm
Alvin Lee King Had An IQ Of 151, And This Is AFTER He Shot Himself In The Head.
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Subject: Re: The IQs of mass murderers (including attempted ones) Fri Mar 05, 2021 4:04 pm
Amok Täter wrote:
Alvin Lee King Had An IQ Of 151, And This Is AFTER He Shot Himself In The Head.
Welcome back man! Where the hell have you been?
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Subject: Re: The IQs of mass murderers (including attempted ones) Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:50 pm
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Amok Täter wrote:
Alvin Lee King Had An IQ Of 151, And This Is AFTER He Shot Himself In The Head.
Welcome back man! Where the hell have you been?
Got the cops called on me for the YouTube channel so I've been laying low for awhile.
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Subject: Re: The IQs of mass murderers (including attempted ones) Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:26 am
Amok Täter wrote:
Carnifex879 wrote:
Amok Täter wrote:
Alvin Lee King Had An IQ Of 151, And This Is AFTER He Shot Himself In The Head.
Welcome back man! Where the hell have you been?
Got the cops called on me for the YouTube channel so I've been laying low for awhile.
That’s what I figured unfortunately lol. Nice to see you again though.
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Subject: Re: The IQs of mass murderers (including attempted ones) Tue Mar 09, 2021 6:06 pm
Nikolas Cruz - 92 Timothy McVeigh - 126
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Subject: Re: The IQs of mass murderers (including attempted ones) Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:40 pm
Though the exact numbers aren’t known there is evidence that would put Eric,Dylan,Adam,Steven,and Pekka in at least the above average range on the iq scale,as demonstrated by the testimony of people who knew them such as teachers,writings and documents authored by the individuals themselves,and the meticulous planning and execution of there crimes.More so the first two than the last one though.Also Cho was tested as a teenager and found to posses an iq in the above average range per the official Virginia Tech Report though the exact number is not known.
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Subject: Re: The IQs of mass murderers (including attempted ones) Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:33 pm
Nikolas Cruz originally tested with a 77. Randan Fontaine's IQ is in the bottom 2%. Natsumi Tsuji (Nevada-tan): 140
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Subject: Re: The IQs of mass murderers (including attempted ones) Wed Jun 23, 2021 10:59 pm
Alvaro Castillo: 90 (although he got good grades.) (Source.)
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Subject: Re: The IQs of mass murderers (including attempted ones) Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:13 am
Adam Lanza was said to have an IQ in the average range (85-115)
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Subject: Re: The IQs of mass murderers (including attempted ones) Sat Jun 26, 2021 3:15 am
In 2004,Nikolas Cruz scored 77 on a test,just 7 points shy of mentally retarded.Then,in 2009,he scored at 92,a significant increase from the previous score but still considered below average in terms of intelligence.
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Subject: Re: The IQs of mass murderers (including attempted ones) Tue Jun 29, 2021 7:18 pm
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In 2004,Nikolas Cruz scored 77 on a test,just 7 points shy of mentally retarded.Then,in 2009,he scored at 92,a significant increase from the previous score but still considered below average in terms of intelligence.
Maybe this is far fetched as I don't know a lot about the case or his biological mother, but is there any suspicion that he may have foetal alcohol syndrome? His features, mother's history, behavioural issues and IQ seem to match up. His low IQ seems odd considering the circumstances, I assumed maybe he had those issues because of his unstable family situation and possible bullying but that seems to make more sense to me. Seems like a very strong possibility if it hasn't been dismissed yet.
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Subject: Re: The IQs of mass murderers (including attempted ones) Tue Jun 29, 2021 8:27 pm
distant99 wrote:
Employer_Square wrote:
In 2004,Nikolas Cruz scored 77 on a test,just 7 points shy of mentally retarded.Then,in 2009,he scored at 92,a significant increase from the previous score but still considered below average in terms of intelligence.
Maybe this is far fetched as I don't know a lot about the case or his biological mother, but is there any suspicion that he may have foetal alcohol syndrome? His features, mother's history, behavioural issues and IQ seem to match up. His low IQ seems odd considering the circumstances, I assumed maybe he had those issues because of his unstable family situation and possible bullying but that seems to make more sense to me. Seems like a very strong possibility if it hasn't been dismissed yet.
Many other people have voiced the same opinion/question including myself but I haven’t found anything saying that confirms he actually has it,though like you said I think there is a large possibility of this due to his early life and upbringing as you mentioned.
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Subject: Re: The IQs of mass murderers (including attempted ones) Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:23 pm
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Subject: Re: The IQs of mass murderers (including attempted ones) Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:42 pm
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Tim Kretschmer had an IQ of 96
Interesting where did you read that.
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Subject: Re: The IQs of mass murderers (including attempted ones) Fri Jul 23, 2021 9:33 pm
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Subject: Re: The IQs of mass murderers (including attempted ones) Sat Jul 24, 2021 8:48 am
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garbagetalker1 wrote:
Tim Kretschmer had an IQ of 96
Interesting where did you read that.
yo mama told me
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Subject: Re: The IQs of mass murderers (including attempted ones) Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:48 pm
garbagetalker1 wrote:
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garbagetalker1 wrote:
Tim Kretschmer had an IQ of 96
Interesting where did you read that.
A book on Winnenden
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Subject: Re: The IQs of mass murderers (including attempted ones) Sun Jul 25, 2021 3:31 am
distant99 wrote:
Employer_Square wrote:
In 2004,Nikolas Cruz scored 77 on a test,just 7 points shy of mentally retarded.Then,in 2009,he scored at 92,a significant increase from the previous score but still considered below average in terms of intelligence.
Maybe this is far fetched as I don't know a lot about the case or his biological mother, but is there any suspicion that he may have foetal alcohol syndrome? His features, mother's history, behavioural issues and IQ seem to match up. His low IQ seems odd considering the circumstances, I assumed maybe he had those issues because of his unstable family situation and possible bullying but that seems to make more sense to me. Seems like a very strong possibility if it hasn't been dismissed yet.
He also scored in the 80s on one. I'm more inclined to believe that one considering his writings. 92 is within the average range and you can function at a pretty normal level. Nikolas couldn't write well at all.
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Subject: Re: The IQs of mass murderers (including attempted ones) Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:10 pm