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I haven't read all of Dylan's journal, but there is one passage that really interests me. It's where he talks about he feels better than any other great man because he has found his true love. I know he wrote in his journal of multiple girls (at one point literally guessing - "could be -redacted-, -redacted-, etc") that he thought may be his true love. Do you think this passage below refers to a specific person? Or do you think it is that he is in a state of certainty that there is a true love for him somewhere, which is an uncertainty for many other people? He seemed to frequently change his mind about who it may be, so I'm just trying to understand why he is so certain here...
To My Love
As a man, a conquerer does his deeds of greatness, He thinks he is complete. Yet, the true great person achieves happiness only when he has met his soulmate. Alone unknown until the first time they lay eyes on each other. A true love is hard to come by, yet the most fulfilling, beautiful, completing achievement any man can have. Some have wealth, some have power, some have great intellect, yet i feel an infinant # of times greater than those as i have found my true love. V
There's another part of his journal where he mentions that he goes to the "5th dimension" and "the everything". What did these things mean to him? I think the only partial explanation is what he wrote here: "To explain the happiness is impossible ever for fate. its just a pure halcyon set to last more existences than a conceivable number." Seems like he's talking about an everlasting heaven? Something that can't be conceived can't be understood, so it still leads to no answer regarding what he is talking about.
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Employer_Square
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He sounds a bit delusional and out of touch with reality to be completely honest with you.This and similar things mentioned in his diary has lead some people,including Dr. Peter Langman who helped popularize this theory,that he may have been struggling with schizotypal personality disorder.Personally I agree with this idea as it seems to explain a lot of the bizarre writings and drawings encountered in his diary.Additionally,I also don’t agree with the FBI’S conclusion that he was just an “angry depressive”.While that part is obvious,there’s definitely a lot more to him than meets the eye.
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hermit
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On the whole fifth dimension stuff, I don't think it's a delusion, but just a way of words in a metaphorical sense because as described, you simply can't describe what the person is looking to talk about in normal language.
Plenty of people speak in metaphors all the time but it doesn't literally mean that is their straightforward belief, depends on who is reading it I guess and how they interpret it. I personally never saw it as a concrete place, just a name for an indescribable feeling, hence it feeling like it's from another 'dimension'
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Juniper
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I really think he meant it as an actual, distinct location. At another point in his journal, closer to the massacre, he wrote about it being "time to die, time to love." Like finding his love was not possible here or something, and had to physically leave to find her. I don't think he meant it as a metaphor. It seems like a religious belief...as the belief in Heaven, or Valhalla, or Olympus. Religious people think of those places as real physical locations they will visit one day. But odd that so many people, throughout history, would hold these beliefs without any evidence to support it. Do they perceive things that others do not? I believe in some supernatural things: I think some people have unusual abilities. I guess I will never know what it was with Dylan..whether he was delusional, or religious, or some highly perceptive person like a medium/psychic.