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PostSubject: Do you think there will ever be a Zero Hour type documentary for Sandy Hook   Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:30 am

And when I make the comparison to Zero Hour, I'm speaking quite loosely. Obviously they would not portray dramatizations in the same manor, as I doubt anyone would want child actors to perform such a reenactment.

The closest I know of that actually goes through the actions of the day is The Deadliest Minute, and that's just a youtube video by CW Wade (although it is very good). I'd like a documentary with more production value.
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PostSubject: Re: Do you think there will ever be a Zero Hour type documentary for Sandy Hook   Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:24 am

Yes Documentarys are some of my favourite passtimes and i believe they should make a sandy hook documentary detailing him growing up and his online activity which can be presented with cutscenes of him at his computer and having episodes in the night, then it could show clips of him drawing strange drawings and also a narrator reading his travis the chimp and culture writings. Then it could show a scene involving ambience showing adam loading his .22 and walking towards his mothers door and soon as he opens it the screen fades into a haze and you hear 4 shots, then it shows the drive and we see him get out the car and unveil his rifle and shoot through the school window, we are then shown a blurry scene involving a dark figure shooting two people in a hall and then the final clip showing the dark figure walk open the classroom door and then the screen fades out and we here children screaming and loud banging and then it fades to a remembrance to the children and shows the aftermath and comes to a conclusion of his motives.

Not well put together but its a brief example of what a Dramatized sandy hook documentary could look like, I imagine that final scene being very disturbing
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PostSubject: Re: Do you think there will ever be a Zero Hour type documentary for Sandy Hook   Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:28 am

Also im thinking of writing an extremely detailed piece by piece document describing every detail and step adam took from morning to his suicide, it will also include his mental activity and online activity.

It should take me a week to make it as im digging deep for uncommon and unknown details.
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PostSubject: Re: Do you think there will ever be a Zero Hour type documentary for Sandy Hook   Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:55 pm

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Yes Documentarys are some of my favourite passtimes and i believe they should make a sandy hook documentary detailing him growing up and his online activity which can be presented with cutscenes of him at his computer and having episodes in the night, then it could show clips of him drawing strange drawings and also a narrator reading his travis the chimp and culture writings. Then it could show a scene involving ambience showing adam loading his .22 and walking towards his mothers door and soon as he opens it the screen fades into a haze and you hear 4 shots, then it shows the drive and we see him get out the car and unveil his rifle and shoot through the school window, we are then shown a blurry scene involving a dark figure shooting two people in a hall and then the final clip showing the dark figure walk open the classroom door and then the screen fades out and we here children screaming and loud banging and then it fades to a remembrance to the children and shows the aftermath and comes to a conclusion of his motives.

Not well put together but its a brief example of what a Dramatized sandy hook documentary could look like, I imagine that final scene being very disturbing
In my opinion, one slightly interesting detail in the moments before the shooting was that there were two sweatshirts dropped on the ground right outside of Adam's car.

Was he wearing both of them to cover his ammunition vest or was he using one or both of them to cover the weapons in his car and possibly the rifle as he approached the school? Honestly, it could even be a bit of a nod to Columbine, either symbolically or from a practical perspective. It certainly reminds me of Eric's trench coat dropped on the ground outside of the school after he used it to hide the weaponry strapped to his body.

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PostSubject: Re: Do you think there will ever be a Zero Hour type documentary for Sandy Hook   Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:40 pm

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In my opinion, one slightly interesting detail in the moments before the shooting was that there were two sweatshirts dropped on the ground right outside of Adam's car.

Was he wearing both of them to cover his ammunition vest or was he using one or both of them to cover the weapons in his car and possibly the rifle as he approached the school? Honestly, it could even be a bit of a nod to Columbine, either symbolically or from a practical perspective. It certainly reminds me of Eric's trench coat dropped on the ground outside of the school after he used it to hide the weaponry strapped to his body.

it may well of been a nod to columbine but my main speculation is it is all part of the plan, he was using one hoodie to cover his eddie Bauer vest and the other one to cover the Bushmaster Rifle in the back seat or boot of car (note one was near the right rear door), i believe he got out the car retrieved his rifle out the back seat uncovered and threw the hoodie on the floor then took a few steps towards the right side front of the car and removed his hoodie covering the vest and then threw that down then i assume he proceeded to the entrance to shoot out the glass.
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PostSubject: Re: Do you think there will ever be a Zero Hour type documentary for Sandy Hook   Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:28 pm

I believe one would have been to conceal the arsenal on his person and another for concealing items in the car, but the idea that it could have been a nod to columbine is interesting. I like that, even though there is no way to know. But just to entertain the theory, if he did do it as a nod I'd like to think he thought ha, someone will get it. Who knows
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PostSubject: Re: Do you think there will ever be a Zero Hour type documentary for Sandy Hook   Sat Jul 15, 2017 10:47 pm

On a somewhat related topic, do you think the survivors will speak publicly in the future? I remember a victim of Brenda Spencer doing so in a newspaper article, so the possibility is there.

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PostSubject: Re: Do you think there will ever be a Zero Hour type documentary for Sandy Hook   Sat Jul 22, 2017 5:08 am

Maybe in his final hour he just decided "meh I really hate these hoodies" and just threw them. tongue Honestly though I think he just used those articles of clothing to cover up his ammunition and weapons.
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PostSubject: Re: Do you think there will ever be a Zero Hour type documentary for Sandy Hook   Sat Jul 22, 2017 4:18 pm

I don't think so, there was never one for Dunblane and that's basically the same.
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PostSubject: Re: Do you think there will ever be a Zero Hour type documentary for Sandy Hook   Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:00 pm

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I don't think so, there was never one for Dunblane and that's basically the same.

There is a dramatized Dunblane documentary which shows reconstructions of Thomas Hamilton walking into the school in all black and fades into shooting children in the gymnasium
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PostSubject: Re: Do you think there will ever be a Zero Hour type documentary for Sandy Hook   Tue Jul 25, 2017 5:19 pm

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I don't think so, there was never one for Dunblane and that's basically the same.

There is a dramatized Dunblane documentary which shows reconstructions of Thomas Hamilton walking into the school in all black and fades into shooting children in the gymnasium
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PostSubject: Re: Do you think there will ever be a Zero Hour type documentary for Sandy Hook   Wed Jul 26, 2017 1:50 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Do you think there will ever be a Zero Hour type documentary for Sandy Hook   Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:37 am

I think the biggest problem surrounding Sandy Hook is hoaxers. I was looking for reviews on the book Newtown: An American Tragedy and all I could find was 1 star reviews by hoaxers calling it "propaganda". So its likely the same thing would happen with a documentary/dramatisation. Disrespectful, imo

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PostSubject: Re: Do you think there will ever be a Zero Hour type documentary for Sandy Hook   Sat Jul 29, 2017 2:05 pm

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On a somewhat related topic, do you think the survivors will speak publicly in the future? I remember a victim of Brenda Spencer doing so in a newspaper article, so the possibility is there.  
There's a video of a Sandy Hook survivor on youtube. Not sure if it's an interview or not, but it probably is considering it's probably very hard to even get a kid to talk about such a traumatising event.
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PostSubject: Re: Do you think there will ever be a Zero Hour type documentary for Sandy Hook   Thu Aug 03, 2017 4:41 pm

That would be awesome.
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PostSubject: Re: Do you think there will ever be a Zero Hour type documentary for Sandy Hook   Thu Aug 03, 2017 6:18 pm

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There's a video of a Sandy Hook survivor on youtube. Not sure if it's an interview or not, but it probably is considering it's probably very hard to even get a kid to talk about such a traumatising event.
I mean when the kids are adults and are better able to articulate their feelings.

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PostSubject: Re: Do you think there will ever be a Zero Hour type documentary for Sandy Hook   Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:53 pm

Probably, but it'll take another few years before people even consider the possibility. The victims were mostly six year olds, after all.
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PostSubject: Re: Do you think there will ever be a Zero Hour type documentary for Sandy Hook   Tue Sep 12, 2017 4:31 pm

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Probably, but it'll take another few years before people even consider the possibility. The victims were mostly six year olds, after all.
I'm looking forward to when enough time has passed for the heavy hitters to really enter the mainstream popular culture, like serial killers.

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PostSubject: Re: Do you think there will ever be a Zero Hour type documentary for Sandy Hook   Wed Sep 13, 2017 5:28 pm

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Probably, but it'll take another few years before people even consider the possibility. The victims were mostly six year olds, after all.
I'm looking forward to when enough time has passed for the heavy hitters to really enter the mainstream popular culture, like serial killers.

Yeah, popular culture is a bit behind in that regard. Shows like Criminal Minds, CSI, and Law and Order usually rely on serial killers to be the big villains, instead of mass murderers. I think this is because serial killers provide a mystery to be solved and a threat that needs to be stopped. Mass murder is so quick that the main characters would likely never be able to stop it in time, and the mystery is more of a "why" than a "who".
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PostSubject: Re: Do you think there will ever be a Zero Hour type documentary for Sandy Hook   Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:56 pm

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Probably, but it'll take another few years before people even consider the possibility. The victims were mostly six year olds, after all.
I'm looking forward to when enough time has passed for the heavy hitters to really enter the mainstream popular culture, like serial killers.

Yeah, popular culture is a bit behind in that regard. Shows like Criminal Minds, CSI, and Law and Order usually rely on serial killers to be the big villains, instead of mass murderers. I think this is because serial killers provide a mystery to be solved and a threat that needs to be stopped. Mass murder is so quick that the main characters would likely never be able to stop it in time, and the mystery is more of a "why" than a "who".  
There was actually a Law and Order: SVU episode that was a bit of a nod to the Elliot Rodger saga. The story of how the killings go down is completely changed but the actor who plays the killer does a pretty good job of impersonating Elliot.
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PostSubject: Re: Do you think there will ever be a Zero Hour type documentary for Sandy Hook   Thu Sep 14, 2017 4:11 pm

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Yeah, popular culture is a bit behind in that regard. Shows like Criminal Minds, CSI, and Law and Order usually rely on serial killers to be the big villains, instead of mass murderers. I think this is because serial killers provide a mystery to be solved and a threat that needs to be stopped. Mass murder is so quick that the main characters would likely never be able to stop it in time, and the mystery is more of a "why" than a "who".  
There was actually a Law and Order: SVU episode that was a bit of a nod to the Elliot Rodger saga. The story of how the killings go down is completely changed but the actor who plays the killer does a pretty good job of impersonating Elliot.
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Criminal minds also had an Elliot Rodger esque bad guy for the season 12 episode 15 episode Alpha Male. The writer stated on twitter that Rodger was the primary inspiration for the villian and Elliot himself is mentioned by name.

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PostSubject: Re: Do you think there will ever be a Zero Hour type documentary for Sandy Hook   Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:27 pm

sscc wrote:
QuestionMark wrote:
STK wrote:
QuestionMark wrote:
Probably, but it'll take another few years before people even consider the possibility. The victims were mostly six year olds, after all.
I'm looking forward to when enough time has passed for the heavy hitters to really enter the mainstream popular culture, like serial killers.

Yeah, popular culture is a bit behind in that regard. Shows like Criminal Minds, CSI, and Law and Order usually rely on serial killers to be the big villains, instead of mass murderers. I think this is because serial killers provide a mystery to be solved and a threat that needs to be stopped. Mass murder is so quick that the main characters would likely never be able to stop it in time, and the mystery is more of a "why" than a "who".  
There was actually a Law and Order: SVU episode that was a bit of a nod to the Elliot Rodger saga. The story of how the killings go down is completely changed but the actor who plays the killer does a pretty good job of impersonating Elliot.
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It's a start, I guess.
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PostSubject: Re: Do you think there will ever be a Zero Hour type documentary for Sandy Hook   Fri Sep 15, 2017 5:32 pm

I sincerely hope so
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