Shootings that ended differentley that what the shooter wanted

Most shooters plan to shoot themselves or wait for the police to shoot them, but some survived.

Jared Laughner was probably expecting to be shot dead by police i belive, but someone jumped him and pushed him to the ground and he was arrested.

Martin Bryant set fire to Seascape, forcing he to run out ablaze, towards the end of the police phone call, he sounded very agitated, so i belive he was attempting suicide by cop and failed. Had this been in the USA without a doubt, he would have been shot dead.

Others tried to escape but got busted or wasted.

Dylann Roof got busted after driving along way.

Devin Kelly got shot then crashed his car into a field whilst trying to escape.

Nikolas Cruz tried to escape but failed.

The only shooter that wanted to be arrested was Anders Brievik, and he treated his court apperances as a propaganda event.

Elliot Rodger wanted to shoot every girl in the Alpha Phi sosority house in Santa Barbara, but no one let him in.

William Atchison either wanted to commit suicide in front of a class, or kill more people after a student caught him.

Adam Lanza probably would have killed more if the police didn't arrive that early.

I think Columbine ended a lot differently than what Eric and Dylan wanted, but then again it also started a lot different than what they wanted too.

Everything about Elliot Rodger's rampage happened differently than what he wanted. The shooting was meant to end with him rolling heads on the street of victims he would have tortured earlier. Hell even the car he drove around into people was the wrong one.

Julian Knight apparently lost the bullet he was going to use to kill himself, so now he's in jail.

Frank Vitkovic had his gun wrestled off him and he plummeted out of the building to his death. And the one person he specifically planned to kill, Con Margelis, survived.

log_1987 wrote:

Everything about Elliot Rodger's rampage happened differently than what he wanted. The shooting was meant to end with him rolling heads on the street of victims he would have tortured earlier. Hell even the car he drove around into people was the wrong one.

I think when he talked about decapitating and torturing people that was just hyperbole. I think.

One of the supervisors who reprimended Patrick Sherrill day before his rampage overslept and was late to job 1 hour, so Sherrill didn't kill him. Second supervisor was killed though.

QuestionMark wrote:

I think Columbine ended a lot differently than what Eric and Dylan wanted, but then again it also started a lot different than what they wanted too.

Agreed. They were apparently so confident in their first plan that they never thought of a back up in case something was to go wrong.

Chris Harper-Mercer definitely wanted to kill more people before shooting himself, he also probably wanted to make headline news more than he did since he was only on there for like 5 minutes before they moved onto something else.

Tommy QTR wrote:

Chris Harper-Mercer definitely wanted to kill more people before shooting himself, he also probably wanted to make headline news more than he did since he was only on there for like 5 minutes before they moved onto something else.

I think he also wanted to kill some cops, he mentioned in his writings that he was baffled as to why past mass shooters didn't try to attack the police.

log_1987 wrote:

Everything about Elliot Rodger's rampage happened differently than what he wanted. The shooting was meant to end with him rolling heads on the street of victims he would have tortured earlier. Hell even the car he drove around into people was the wrong one.

Literally everything went wrong.
He didn't torture anyone, didn't kill his brother and stepmom (probably due to his dad staying home from a trip, which explains why he didn't take his dad's car), didn't get in the sorority, didn't do anything with any rolling heads, didn't drink hard liquor and take pills, didn't shoot himself with 2 guns.
Nothing went right except him killing his roommates, him driving around Isla Vista and him successfully committing suicide, even though it's not how he intended to commit suicide.

Based off what he brought with him, Charles Whitman clearly intended to hold up in the tower much longer than he did and most likely intended to have a close ranged shootout with police given how of the weapons he brought, 5 out of 7 of them were close ranged.

Anders Behring Breivik had originally intended to capture, tie up and decapitate Norwegian politician and previous Prime Minister Gro Harlem Brundtland, who had visited Utöya a couple of hours before Anders arrived at the island. That could have been horrific, he had planned to film it and upload it to the internet.

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mrbaby56 wrote:

Anders Behring Breivik had originally intended to capture, tie up and decapitate Norwegian politician and previous Prime Minister Gro Harlem Brundtland, who had visited Utöya a couple of hours before Anders arrived at the island. That could have been horrific, he had planned to film it and upload it to the internet.

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Maybe if he had done that, some of the kids might have escaped.

Ziamber II wrote:

mrbaby56 wrote:

Anders Behring Breivik had originally intended to capture, tie up and decapitate Norwegian politician and previous Prime Minister Gro Harlem Brundtland, who had visited Utöya a couple of hours before Anders arrived at the island. That could have been horrific, he had planned to film it and upload it to the internet.

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Maybe if he had done that, some of the kids might have escaped.

I also read that he had another plan to kill journalists and reporters at a press conference or something.

Trey Eric Sesler wanted to kill at least 70 people at his High School.

Asa Coon didnt manage to kill anybody.

I think that most mass murder didn't go the way the shooters wanted if we consider that they probably had very detailed fantasies:
Some of them probably even thought or imagined about how they would feel during the shooting.
An interesting example would be Lanza, we don't know if he thought about how he would feel during the shooting, but there are some clues that he might have panicked when the police arrived.
If this is the case, I don't think that getting panicked was in his plans at all.

All of them.

Richard Durn wanted to kill the mayor of Nanterre.

Bruce Jeffrey Pardo intended to escape to Canada after killing his ex-wife and her family, however he didn't realize there was an open flame in the house before using his homemade flamethrower to spray racing fuel gasoline into it. He ended up with severe burns on his body and killed himself instead.

The terrorist in the 2018 Liege attack probably intended to kill more people, but I think everybody left the street or hid in shops and bars after he killed the two policewomen, so he had no one to shoot at.

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Dingus wrote:

Instead of becoming the next James Huberty, Dion Terres locked himself out of his car with ammunition for his semi-auto rifle inside. He then forgot he was carrying ammo for the rifle in his pocket and discarded the gun. He ended up killing two and wounding one with a .44 magnum before committing suicide.

Sounds like William could've taken notes from this guy. 

Dingus wrote:

Instead of becoming the next James Huberty, Dion Terres locked himself out of his car with ammunition for his semi-auto rifle inside. He then forgot he was carrying ammo for the rifle in his pocket and discarded the gun. He ended up killing two and wounding one with a .44 magnum before committing suicide.

"Tests showed that there was marijuana in his system at time of the killings." Drugs before mass shooting is never a good idea.

Kip Kinkel wanted to kill himself after he ran out of ammo with a bullet he strapped on himself but he was tackled.

Jose Reyes hoped Sparks Middle School would close forever after the shooting but it didnt. LOL

Andrew Golden and Mitchell Johnson wanted to escape and live out in the woods for the rest of their lives but they were caught.

Also, Nikolas Cruz not only failed at escaping, but he also failed at his goal to kill 20 people, he got 17

Alex Hribal intended to die during his attack but he was tackled by the principle *I know this isnt a shooting but i just wanted to point that out*

Matthew Murray wanted to shoot up the New Life Church during a session and was packed with i think 700 people inside, but he was shot by a guard. However, he did manage to kill 2 people outside the church.

Seung Hui Cho in my opinion when he chain locked the doors, I think he intended to kill EVERYONE in Norris Hall but the swat team managed to get inside.

Pekka Eric Auvinen planned to burn down the school but the liquid failed to ignite. However, he did achieve his goal to kill 1 or 5 people, "maybe more if he was lucky"

Barry Loukaitis seemed to intend on holding his math class hostage for as long as possible, but one of his hostages tackled him.

Anton Lundin Petersson looked like he planned on killing a lot of people, but his rampage was cut short when he got shot by the cops. (also not a shooting but still)

Jesse Osborne planned to use his fathers Mini-14 rifle, but he couldn't access it. He also hoped on killing hundreds, but he chickened out and called his grandparents during the shooting. He was then tackled by a firefighter.

Amy Bishop tried to kill one of her colleagues but her gun jammed.

Brenda Spencer planned on killing the children but she only managed to kill the principle and the janitor.

TheOne99 wrote:

Jesse Osborne planned to use his fathers Mini-14 rifle, but he couldn't access it. He also hoped on killing hundreds, but he chickened out and called his grandparents during the shooting. He was then tackled by a firefighter.

Also, according to Jesse, his gun was jamming after every shot. He gave up after 12 seconds of shooting.

sscc wrote:

TheOne99 wrote:

Jesse Osborne planned to use his fathers Mini-14 rifle, but he couldn't access it. He also hoped on killing hundreds, but he chickened out and called his grandparents during the shooting. He was then tackled by a firefighter.

Also, according to Jesse, his gun was jamming after every shot. He gave up after 12 seconds of shooting.

Oh yes, I forgot to mention that aswell

TheOne99 wrote:

Matthew Murray wanted to shoot up the New Life Church during a session and was packed with i think 700 people inside, but he was shot by a guard. However, he did manage to kill 2 people outside the church.

According to the police report, he shot himself.

InsaneIntruder wrote:

TheOne99 wrote:

Matthew Murray wanted to shoot up the New Life Church during a session and was packed with i think 700 people inside, but he was shot by a guard. However, he did manage to kill 2 people outside the church.

According to the police report, he shot himself.

Oh yea i forgot to mention his suicide

TheOne99 wrote:

Also, Nikolas Cruz not only failed at escaping, but he also failed at his goal to kill 20 people, he got 17

I will say Nick managed to get a lot closer to his goals then a lot of the shooters listed here.

QuestionMark wrote:

TheOne99 wrote:

Also, Nikolas Cruz not only failed at escaping, but he also failed at his goal to kill 20 people, he got 17

I will say Nick managed to get a lot closer to his goals then a lot of the shooters listed here.

Yes I will admit he was close to 20 kills though, if perhaps on of the injured died then maybe the death toll would have risen

Chris Harper-Mercer probably wanted to kill some black men as he mentions in his manifesto that he specifically hates them.

Breivik's bombing failed miserably, he wanted to murder the Norwegian Prime Minister and hundreds more yet only managed to kill eight.

Brenton Tarrant wanted to burn the Al Noor Mosque to the ground but didn't

nerad69 wrote:

Brenton Tarrant wanted to burn the Al Noor Mosque to the ground but didn't

He said that he had the time, but panicked and drove away to the sound of Arthur Brown.

Anders Breivik was hoping to use up to 3 bombs in various places in Oslo, but after running out of funds and time he rushed together just one truck bomb. He had angled the explosives in the truck to direct the explosive force to the left, but the parking spot he was going to park on was occupied so he had to park somewhere else in the wrong direction. A lot of explosive energy was lost and that might explain why the damages on the Höyblokka were so miniscule despite the huge earthshaking explosion that was heard through all of Oslo. His plan was put to action almost 5 hours after he originally intended to, almost all government employees including the prime minister had left Höyblokka and Gro Harlem Brundtland (which he intended to assasinate) had left Utöya hours earlier. On the island, dozens of kids hid in a wooden hut, which Breivik tried to burn down to the ground. He forgot his cigarette lighters in his car and nothing became of that.

Alvaro Castillo planned on killing a lot more people at orange highschool after the murder of his father but he was tackeled after just injuring 2 people and his gun jammed on him.

6psicótico6orgulhoso6 wrote:

Alvaro Castillo planned on killing a lot more people at orange highschool after the murder of his father but he was tackeled after just injuring 2 people and his gun jammed on him.

What did he expect when he brought old weapons to a school and try to kill people by trying to shoot at them through some windows?

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] What you mean "old weapons"? Hi-Point 995 it's not old weapon.

Most shooters ended not how they think. Because it's IRL, not game.

Russianman wrote:

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] What you mean "old weapons"? Hi-Point 995 it's not old weapon.

Most shooters ended not how they think. Because it's IRL, not game.

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I just realized that I don't know how guns work. That was a mistake.

Russianman wrote:

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] What you mean "old weapons"? Hi-Point 995 it's not old weapon.

Most shooters ended not how they think. Because it's IRL, not game.

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I just realized that I don't know how guns work. That was a mistake.

Russianman wrote:

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] What you mean "old weapons"? Hi-Point 995 it's not old weapon.

Most shooters ended not how they think. Because it's IRL, not game.

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I just realized that I don't know how guns work. That was a mistake.

No one mentioned the Dallas courthouse shooter yet? Brian Clyde

noobjeff19 wrote:

Anders Breivik was hoping to use up to 3 bombs in various places in Oslo, but after running out of funds and time he rushed together just one truck bomb. He had angled the explosives in the truck to direct the explosive force to the left, but the parking spot he was going to park on was occupied so he had to park somewhere else in the wrong direction. A lot of explosive energy was lost and that might explain why the damages on the Höyblokka were so miniscule despite the huge earthshaking explosion that was heard through all of Oslo. His plan was put to action almost 5 hours after he originally intended to, almost all government employees including the prime minister had left Höyblokka and Gro Harlem Brundtland (which he intended to assasinate) had left Utöya hours earlier. On the island, dozens of kids hid in a wooden hut, which Breivik tried to burn down to the ground. He forgot his cigarette lighters in his car and nothing became of that.

Anders Brievik was attempting to do what Timmy McVeigh did.

6psicótico6orgulhoso6 wrote:

Alvaro Castillo planned on killing a lot more people at orange highschool after the murder of his father but he was tackeled after just injuring 2 people and his gun jammed on him.

He should have had a knife to use as a backup weapon, knifes can't jam or run out of ammo.

Genildo Ferreira de França: Ferreira wanted to escape to Coqueiros district after the shooting to watch the repercussions of his crimes on TV, saying: "We are going to be famous, we will appear throughout the country!" ("Nós vamos ser famosos, vamos aparecer no país todo.") He also hoped to be interviewed by Josimar Gomes da Silva, host of a programme named "Patrulha Policial" that aired on TV Ponta Negra, where he wanted to explain that he was not gay.

Enesbrietchvonfrederitch wrote:

Genildo Ferreira de França: Ferreira wanted to escape to Coqueiros district after the shooting to watch the repercussions of his crimes on TV, saying: "We are going to be famous, we will appear throughout the country!" ("Nós vamos ser famosos, vamos aparecer no país todo.") He also hoped to be interviewed by Josimar Gomes da Silva, host of a programme named "Patrulha Policial" that aired on TV Ponta Negra, where he wanted to explain that he was not gay.

So Genildo actually thought he could possibly get away with his crimes?
That kinda makes it clear that his rampage wans't that well-planned, despite being one of the deadliest massacres in Brazil's history.

Dylann Roof expected police to be outside of the church by the time he finished and he was planning on dying by cop. You see him peeking out in the CCTV video and walking to his car kind of dumbfounded. He improvised from there and decided to drive to Nashville. At least that's what he says in those tapes with the police. When they asked 'why Nashville' he's like 'Well i've never been there'. I wonder if he regrets not killing himself now that he's on deathrow.

Jeffrey Weise originally wanted to commit the Red Lake shooting with other kids, but they did not have access to guns, only Jeff did, so he decided to go alone. The police also found a homemade map of Red Lake Senior High school. Based on the map, it was thought he wanted to attack the gym during a crowed event of some sort like an assembly, with his accomplices meant to be covering the gyms exits. He also wanted to commit the shooting on April 20th, but something clearly happened that made Jeff decide to commit his plan earlier

Apparently, something good comes out of it all. The best is when Peop le are caught before they carry out such attrocities. I tend to think that ghry are better at catching up with this by now. Unfortunately, this didnt happen in Norway. The killer pretty much massacred for a long time before he got caught. This is where I hope our police will learn their lesson and dont just focus on radical islamists but also the far right.

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Not to spoil the thread, but I think we need to speak up against hate much more. Hate can cause really horrible attrocities such as Columbine and Utøya.