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Subject: Adam Lanza's Final Moments and Thoughts Sun Feb 02, 2020 9:29 pm
What do you guys think was going through his head before his suicide? Do you think he was thinking of anything at all? Let me know if there was already a thread like this
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Subject: Re: Adam Lanza's Final Moments and Thoughts Sun Feb 02, 2020 11:24 pm
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Subject: Re: Adam Lanza's Final Moments and Thoughts Thu Apr 16, 2020 5:17 pm
I think considering his lifetime struggle with anxiety and panic attacks, he probably was panicking.
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Subject: Re: Adam Lanza's Final Moments and Thoughts Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:05 pm
survivingman wrote:
I think considering his lifetime struggle with anxiety and panic attacks, he probably was panicking.
Agreed, I mean I think I would be a little panicky too knowing i'm about to end my life, no return. Though maybe though he perhaps was welcoming of his death, knowing he wouldl have the chance to finally leave this world for good.
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Subject: Re: Adam Lanza's Final Moments and Thoughts Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:54 pm
I guess that he panicked and didnt think much. Maybe he had a sense of ",terror" (thoughts of beeing in Prison,we all know that Criminals who killed defenseless Children are at the Bottom-Line of Prison-"Society") so he offed himself as quick as possible. Would like to know why he did commit the Shooting.
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Subject: Re: Adam Lanza's Final Moments and Thoughts Fri Apr 17, 2020 3:12 pm
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Subject: Re: Adam Lanza's Final Moments and Thoughts Fri Apr 17, 2020 6:40 pm
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Subject: Re: Adam Lanza's Final Moments and Thoughts Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:50 am
It's odd to imagine Adam in prison. People rarely "enjoy" prison but it's hard not to wonder what he would've thought about the structure/schedule.
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Subject: Re: Adam Lanza's Final Moments and Thoughts Wed Mar 10, 2021 4:49 pm
survivingman wrote:
I think considering his lifetime struggle with anxiety and panic attacks, he probably was panicking.
Futility wrote:
I guess that he panicked and didnt think much. Maybe he had a sense of ",terror" (thoughts of beeing in Prison,we all know that Criminals who killed defenseless Children are at the Bottom-Line of Prison-"Society") so he offed himself as quick as possible. Would like to know why he did commit the Shooting.
I think these are pretty plausible answers, though I also feel like most of his anxiety would've been welling up in the weeks and days prior to the rampage, and that the minutes/seconds before the very end he would be thinking to himself "thank God it's finally over".
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Subject: Re: Adam Lanza's Final Moments and Thoughts Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:27 pm
What specific things about the prison would affect Adam and why? I've been asking myself that for a long time
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Subject: Re: Adam Lanza's Final Moments and Thoughts Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:55 pm
Maybe the gravity of what he had done just hit him, or by that point he may have just become so angry and depressed that he didn't care and wanted his life to just end.
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Subject: Re: Adam Lanza's Final Moments and Thoughts Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:49 am
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What specific things about the prison would affect Adam and why? Â I've been asking myself that for a long time
In a word, everything.
The lights, the noise, the routine, the lack of ability to disinfect everything, lack of stimulation, the way they arrange his food, invasive medical procedures, I can go on but really just think of anything that happens in prison and you can bet he'd loathe it.
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Subject: Re: Adam Lanza's Final Moments and Thoughts Thu Mar 11, 2021 5:11 pm
QuestionMark wrote:
margaflor wrote:
What specific things about the prison would affect Adam and why? Â I've been asking myself that for a long time
In a word, everything.
The lights, the noise, the routine, the lack of ability to disinfect everything, lack of stimulation, the way they arrange his food, invasive medical procedures, I can go on but really just think of anything that happens in prison and you can bet he'd loathe it.
Exactly, I think that all those reasons would be a good reason not to go to prison, I'm sure that he would also be bothered by the entire judicial process and journalists, he simply couldn't bear it.
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Subject: Re: Adam Lanza's Final Moments and Thoughts Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:14 am
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Subject: Re: Adam Lanza's Final Moments and Thoughts Sun Mar 14, 2021 7:36 pm
I think he feared the police but i also think he consciously knew and chose to target the brain stem behind his ear. He wanted zero chance of* survival.
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Subject: Re: Adam Lanza's Final Moments and Thoughts Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:19 am
I wish this vile little specimen would have messed up his suicide or bottled in in his anxiety ridden state. I’d have loved to know he was in prison now and suffering horrendous torment.
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Subject: Re: Adam Lanza's Final Moments and Thoughts Mon Mar 21, 2022 7:51 pm
What was going through his head before his suicide? Well, definitely not a 10mm bullet that's for sure.
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Subject: Re: Adam Lanza's Final Moments and Thoughts Mon May 02, 2022 3:21 pm
When he went in there I don't believe he ever had the intention of coming back out to face the consequences of his actions. I can't picture him going through the entire judicial process for reasons others have already stated in this thread. From the moment he broke the glass, it was just a matter of moments until his inevitable suicide.
That being said, even if his mind was made up, he was probably riddled with anxiety. Even more so once he'd stopped shooting and the reality of his actions would've begun to set in. To a certain extent he knew the gravity of what he'd done, whether his actions were justified in his own head or not... hence him splattering his brains all over the classroom.
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Subject: Re: Adam Lanza's Final Moments and Thoughts Sat May 28, 2022 10:25 pm
I agree that he may have been panicky. Or, alternatively, relieved, to end his life.
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Subject: Re: Adam Lanza's Final Moments and Thoughts Thu Jan 11, 2024 12:55 am
Other than all previously stated here, I believe he was probably on "autopilot" during the actual shooting, just an emotionless robotic procedure like a soldier carrying out a raid. That's one reason why I believe he likely didn't say anything to any of the victims during the shooting, he probably wouldn't have had the time to stop and think of how to respond to anyone if he was trying to shut off his right brain... Also, in the janitor's 911 call recording where you can hear Adam's last two gunshots, the time between his "test shot" in the hallway and his suicide shot is very short. It seems like he just did the test shot, walked into the classroom and pulled the trigger. No time to think or feel anything as long as you just keep moving and acting. But he probably felt some kind of panic/rush in the midst of everything of course, and I think he was probably trying not to overthink things because he knew it would be over soon.
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Subject: Re: Adam Lanza's Final Moments and Thoughts Thu Jan 11, 2024 5:46 am
messianic_mania wrote:
Other than all previously stated here, I believe he was probably on "autopilot" during the actual shooting, just an emotionless robotic procedure like a soldier carrying out a raid. That's one reason why I believe he likely didn't say anything to any of the victims during the shooting, he probably wouldn't have had the time to stop and think of how to respond to anyone if he was trying to shut off his right brain... Also, in the janitor's 911 call recording where you can hear Adam's last two gunshots, the time between his "test shot" in the hallway and his suicide shot is very short. It seems like he just did the test shot, walked into the classroom and pulled the trigger. No time to think or feel anything as long as you just keep moving and acting. But he probably felt some kind of panic/rush in the midst of everything of course, and I think he was probably trying not to overthink things because he knew it would be over soon.
He was not "just an emotionless robot," he was taunting, yelling, and swearing at his victims. One of the survivors described him as a "very angry man." He did it in a fit of rage.
Adam isn't as emotionless as you think, since he did have emotions that were present outside of the shooting in his later years. For example, his YouTube channel is just him arguing with his comment section, complaining about dislikes, aggressively clicking his mouse, loudly sighing, laughing, and the occasional monotone voice.
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Subject: Re: Adam Lanza's Final Moments and Thoughts Thu Jan 11, 2024 7:12 am
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messianic_mania wrote:
Other than all previously stated here, I believe he was probably on "autopilot" during the actual shooting, just an emotionless robotic procedure like a soldier carrying out a raid. That's one reason why I believe he likely didn't say anything to any of the victims during the shooting, he probably wouldn't have had the time to stop and think of how to respond to anyone if he was trying to shut off his right brain... Also, in the janitor's 911 call recording where you can hear Adam's last two gunshots, the time between his "test shot" in the hallway and his suicide shot is very short. It seems like he just did the test shot, walked into the classroom and pulled the trigger. No time to think or feel anything as long as you just keep moving and acting. But he probably felt some kind of panic/rush in the midst of everything of course, and I think he was probably trying not to overthink things because he knew it would be over soon.
He was not "just an emotionless robot," he was taunting, yelling, and swearing at his victims. One of the survivors described him as a "very angry man." It is clear he did it in a fit of rage.
Adam isn't as emotionless as you think, since he did have emotions that were present outside of the shooting in his later years. For example, his YouTube channel is just him arguing with his comment section, complaining about dislikes, aggressively clicking his mouse, loudly sighing, laughing, and the occasional monotone voice.
First, I don't think Adam is emotionless. Quite the contrary, I posted another reply on a thread right before this one where I mentioned that a lot of people read Adam as emotionless and cold and incapable of positive emotion when that's not true at all, there's evidence of the contrary.
Second, what is your evidence that he was "taunting, yelling, and swearing" at his victims during the shooting? Genuinely, I'd like to hear your sources. I've seen one source that claimed something like that but couldn't provide adequate proof, and another that claims he said something like "look at me" and/or "well, you're here" to victims during the shooting, which also didn't have reputable sources, in fact I believe those dated back to a fanfiction about the tragedy which included him kissing victims too, if I remember correctly. I haven't seen enough evidence to show he said anything at all during the shooting so if you have said evidence please send it my way, I'm being sincere.
I want to re-clarify that I wasn't implying that he was emotionless about the massacre at all, or that he might not have been angry, or anything like that, I was saying that I personally believe he tried to push back any emotions that might have made it hard for him to continue with the shooting, similar to what Eric Harris wrote about in his journals. He obviously cared a lot about his motive for the shooting considering he did it at all, and I assume he wouldn't want to mess that up by having a meltdown or something of the likes that would cause problems for him. But again, I'm not saying that any of this is fact. That's why I started my original comment with "I BELIEVE".
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Subject: Re: Adam Lanza's Final Moments and Thoughts Fri Jan 12, 2024 7:30 am
messianic_mania wrote:
Octal wrote:
messianic_mania wrote:
Other than all previously stated here, I believe he was probably on "autopilot" during the actual shooting, just an emotionless robotic procedure like a soldier carrying out a raid. That's one reason why I believe he likely didn't say anything to any of the victims during the shooting, he probably wouldn't have had the time to stop and think of how to respond to anyone if he was trying to shut off his right brain... Also, in the janitor's 911 call recording where you can hear Adam's last two gunshots, the time between his "test shot" in the hallway and his suicide shot is very short. It seems like he just did the test shot, walked into the classroom and pulled the trigger. No time to think or feel anything as long as you just keep moving and acting. But he probably felt some kind of panic/rush in the midst of everything of course, and I think he was probably trying not to overthink things because he knew it would be over soon.
He was not "just an emotionless robot," he was taunting, yelling, and swearing at his victims. One of the survivors described him as a "very angry man." It is clear he did it in a fit of rage.
Adam isn't as emotionless as you think, since he did have emotions that were present outside of the shooting in his later years. For example, his YouTube channel is just him arguing with his comment section, complaining about dislikes, aggressively clicking his mouse, loudly sighing, laughing, and the occasional monotone voice.
First, I don't think Adam is emotionless. Quite the contrary, I posted another reply on a thread right before this one where I mentioned that a lot of people read Adam as emotionless and cold and incapable of positive emotion when that's not true at all, there's evidence of the contrary.
Second, what is your evidence that he was "taunting, yelling, and swearing" at his victims during the shooting? Genuinely, I'd like to hear your sources. I've seen one source that claimed something like that but couldn't provide adequate proof, and another that claims he said something like "look at me" and/or "well, you're here" to victims during the shooting, which also didn't have reputable sources, in fact I believe those dated back to a fanfiction about the tragedy which included him kissing victims too, if I remember correctly. I haven't seen enough evidence to show he said anything at all during the shooting so if you have said evidence please send it my way, I'm being sincere.
I want to re-clarify that I wasn't implying that he was emotionless about the massacre at all, or that he might not have been angry, or anything like that, I was saying that I personally believe he tried to push back any emotions that might have made it hard for him to continue with the shooting, similar to what Eric Harris wrote about in his journals. He obviously cared a lot about his motive for the shooting considering he did it at all, and I assume he wouldn't want to mess that up by having a meltdown or something of the likes that would cause problems for him. But again, I'm not saying that any of this is fact. That's why I started my original comment with "I BELIEVE".
Okay, so maybe I phrased the second paragraph weirdly since I had no background knowledge of you because I have never seen the thread you speak of (you can probably disregard that paragraph entirely). You still implied that he was emotionless at least DURING the shooting in the first paragraph. You say he was simply trying to suppress his emotions but I don't see him having much control over it. Any attempt of him trying to push back his emotions of anger would be futile, (However, I do believe he had the bare minimum of emotional control to carry shit out, bare fucking minimum though) Why would an adrenaline rush give you more control and make you emotionless at the moment, seriously? Realistically, I don't think anybody who was coddled by mommy and lived in the dark would turn out to be a stable person with good self-control.
My source was from the Connecticut state investigation report, and there was also a newstimes article, but people said the state investigation report isn't 100% reliable so I'll give you that, but that does not mean he acted in the complete opposite way of what was described in the report. You said there wasn't enough evidence, which allows me to infer what could have happened based on my own research rather than facts, and make decisions based on what makes sense to me. I can vaguely infer what type of person he is from his YT channel alone. Since you use the words "probably," "like," and "I believe," I believe that I should do the same.[
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Subject: Re: Adam Lanza's Final Moments and Thoughts Fri Jan 12, 2024 9:04 pm
Octal wrote:
messianic_mania wrote:
Octal wrote:
messianic_mania wrote:
Other than all previously stated here, I believe he was probably on "autopilot" during the actual shooting, just an emotionless robotic procedure like a soldier carrying out a raid. That's one reason why I believe he likely didn't say anything to any of the victims during the shooting, he probably wouldn't have had the time to stop and think of how to respond to anyone if he was trying to shut off his right brain... Also, in the janitor's 911 call recording where you can hear Adam's last two gunshots, the time between his "test shot" in the hallway and his suicide shot is very short. It seems like he just did the test shot, walked into the classroom and pulled the trigger. No time to think or feel anything as long as you just keep moving and acting. But he probably felt some kind of panic/rush in the midst of everything of course, and I think he was probably trying not to overthink things because he knew it would be over soon.
He was not "just an emotionless robot," he was taunting, yelling, and swearing at his victims. One of the survivors described him as a "very angry man." It is clear he did it in a fit of rage.
Adam isn't as emotionless as you think, since he did have emotions that were present outside of the shooting in his later years. For example, his YouTube channel is just him arguing with his comment section, complaining about dislikes, aggressively clicking his mouse, loudly sighing, laughing, and the occasional monotone voice.
First, I don't think Adam is emotionless. Quite the contrary, I posted another reply on a thread right before this one where I mentioned that a lot of people read Adam as emotionless and cold and incapable of positive emotion when that's not true at all, there's evidence of the contrary.
Second, what is your evidence that he was "taunting, yelling, and swearing" at his victims during the shooting? Genuinely, I'd like to hear your sources. I've seen one source that claimed something like that but couldn't provide adequate proof, and another that claims he said something like "look at me" and/or "well, you're here" to victims during the shooting, which also didn't have reputable sources, in fact I believe those dated back to a fanfiction about the tragedy which included him kissing victims too, if I remember correctly. I haven't seen enough evidence to show he said anything at all during the shooting so if you have said evidence please send it my way, I'm being sincere.
I want to re-clarify that I wasn't implying that he was emotionless about the massacre at all, or that he might not have been angry, or anything like that, I was saying that I personally believe he tried to push back any emotions that might have made it hard for him to continue with the shooting, similar to what Eric Harris wrote about in his journals. He obviously cared a lot about his motive for the shooting considering he did it at all, and I assume he wouldn't want to mess that up by having a meltdown or something of the likes that would cause problems for him. But again, I'm not saying that any of this is fact. That's why I started my original comment with "I BELIEVE".
Okay, so maybe I phrased the second paragraph weirdly since I had no background knowledge of you because I have never seen the thread you speak of (you can probably disregard that paragraph entirely). You still implied that he was emotionless at least DURING the shooting in the first paragraph. You say he was simply trying to suppress his emotions but I don't see him having much control over it. Any attempt of him trying to push back his emotions of anger would be futile, (However, I do believe he had the bare minimum of emotional control to carry shit out, bare fucking minimum though) Why would an adrenaline rush give you more control and make you emotionless at the moment, seriously? Realistically, I don't think anybody who was coddled by mommy and lived in the dark would turn out to be a stable person with good self-control.
My source was from the Connecticut state investigation report, and there was also a newstimes article, but people said the state investigation report isn't 100% reliable so I'll give you that, but that does not mean he acted in the complete opposite way of what was described in the report. You said there wasn't enough evidence, which allows me to infer what could have happened based on my own research rather than facts, and make decisions based on what makes sense to me. I can vaguely infer what type of person he is from his YT channel alone. Since you use the words "probably," "like," and "I believe," I believe that I should do the same.
Oh, absolutely. I have no problem with you disagreeing with me, we obviously infer seperate plausible situations based off our personal knowledge and beliefs... However, your original reply seemed quite hostile like you were saying that I was factually wrong and you were factually correct. That is what bothered me. But I can agree to disagree any day with someone who is willing to agree that neither of us know for sure what happened that day.
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Subject: Re: Adam Lanza's Final Moments and Thoughts Sat Jan 13, 2024 5:20 am
messianic_mania wrote:
Octal wrote:
messianic_mania wrote:
Octal wrote:
messianic_mania wrote:
Other than all previously stated here, I believe he was probably on "autopilot" during the actual shooting, just an emotionless robotic procedure like a soldier carrying out a raid. That's one reason why I believe he likely didn't say anything to any of the victims during the shooting, he probably wouldn't have had the time to stop and think of how to respond to anyone if he was trying to shut off his right brain... Also, in the janitor's 911 call recording where you can hear Adam's last two gunshots, the time between his "test shot" in the hallway and his suicide shot is very short. It seems like he just did the test shot, walked into the classroom and pulled the trigger. No time to think or feel anything as long as you just keep moving and acting. But he probably felt some kind of panic/rush in the midst of everything of course, and I think he was probably trying not to overthink things because he knew it would be over soon.
He was not "just an emotionless robot," he was taunting, yelling, and swearing at his victims. One of the survivors described him as a "very angry man." It is clear he did it in a fit of rage.
Adam isn't as emotionless as you think, since he did have emotions that were present outside of the shooting in his later years. For example, his YouTube channel is just him arguing with his comment section, complaining about dislikes, aggressively clicking his mouse, loudly sighing, laughing, and the occasional monotone voice.
First, I don't think Adam is emotionless. Quite the contrary, I posted another reply on a thread right before this one where I mentioned that a lot of people read Adam as emotionless and cold and incapable of positive emotion when that's not true at all, there's evidence of the contrary.
Second, what is your evidence that he was "taunting, yelling, and swearing" at his victims during the shooting? Genuinely, I'd like to hear your sources. I've seen one source that claimed something like that but couldn't provide adequate proof, and another that claims he said something like "look at me" and/or "well, you're here" to victims during the shooting, which also didn't have reputable sources, in fact I believe those dated back to a fanfiction about the tragedy which included him kissing victims too, if I remember correctly. I haven't seen enough evidence to show he said anything at all during the shooting so if you have said evidence please send it my way, I'm being sincere.
I want to re-clarify that I wasn't implying that he was emotionless about the massacre at all, or that he might not have been angry, or anything like that, I was saying that I personally believe he tried to push back any emotions that might have made it hard for him to continue with the shooting, similar to what Eric Harris wrote about in his journals. He obviously cared a lot about his motive for the shooting considering he did it at all, and I assume he wouldn't want to mess that up by having a meltdown or something of the likes that would cause problems for him. But again, I'm not saying that any of this is fact. That's why I started my original comment with "I BELIEVE".
Okay, so maybe I phrased the second paragraph weirdly since I had no background knowledge of you because I have never seen the thread you speak of (you can probably disregard that paragraph entirely). You still implied that he was emotionless at least DURING the shooting in the first paragraph. You say he was simply trying to suppress his emotions but I don't see him having much control over it. Any attempt of him trying to push back his emotions of anger would be futile, (However, I do believe he had the bare minimum of emotional control to carry shit out, bare fucking minimum though) Why would an adrenaline rush give you more control and make you emotionless at the moment, seriously? Realistically, I don't think anybody who was coddled by mommy and lived in the dark would turn out to be a stable person with good self-control.
My source was from the Connecticut state investigation report, and there was also a newstimes article, but people said the state investigation report isn't 100% reliable so I'll give you that, but that does not mean he acted in the complete opposite way of what was described in the report. You said there wasn't enough evidence, which allows me to infer what could have happened based on my own research rather than facts, and make decisions based on what makes sense to me. I can vaguely infer what type of person he is from his YT channel alone. Since you use the words "probably," "like," and "I believe," I believe that I should do the same.
Oh, absolutely. I have no problem with you disagreeing with me, we obviously infer seperate plausible situations based off our personal knowledge and beliefs... However, your original reply seemed quite hostile like you were saying that I was factually wrong and you were factually correct. That is what bothered me. But I can agree to disagree any day with someone who is willing to agree that neither of us know for sure what happened that day.
Sorry then, I didn't mean to come across that way. Slop just gets in the way.
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