Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.
Columbine High School Massacre Discussion Forum
A place to discuss the Columbine High School Massacre along with other school shootings and crimes. Anyone interested in researching, learning, discussing and debating with us, please come join our community!
Posts : 90 Contribution Points : 48618 Forum Reputation : 75 Join date : 2020-04-15
Subject: Pixar's Turning Red and The Columbine Shooting Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:42 pm
Mild spoilers about the movie. If you get it, you get it though.
MAJOR FUCKING PARRALLELS TO THIS MOVIE AND SUE KLEBOLD"S MEMOIR.
Sue Klebold blames herself HARD for what happened and cannot move on.
I hope she sees this movie.
It's PG and for all ages. but if you see it. HOO BOY
The little girl hurts so much inside but only finds her true self with friends. (remind you of anyone?)
They find videotape of her with her friends and they intervene.
The girl chooses a healthy choice, that while painful, is better than being in pain or causing other's suffering.
itsokaytoeatfish likes this post
itsokaytoeatfish
Posts : 116 Contribution Points : 33918 Forum Reputation : 83 Join date : 2021-06-24 Age : 19 Location : Colorado
Subject: Re: Pixar's Turning Red and The Columbine Shooting Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:23 pm
Funnily enough I'm both obsessed with Columbine and Turning Red. So this thread is a goldmine.
_________________ Animals are people; We can eat.
nopenever
Posts : 90 Contribution Points : 48618 Forum Reputation : 75 Join date : 2020-04-15
Subject: Re: Pixar's Turning Red and The Columbine Shooting Wed Mar 23, 2022 11:22 pm
itsokaytoeatfish wrote:
Funnily enough I'm both obsessed with Columbine and Turning Red. So this thread is a goldmine.
I strongly encourage you to be more interested in Turning Red than the crime, but I also can't force you to do anything.
itsokaytoeatfish likes this post
Mr Bubbless Top Contributor
Posts : 485 Contribution Points : 43321 Forum Reputation : 731 Join date : 2021-02-01 Location : STRAYA
Subject: Re: Pixar's Turning Red and The Columbine Shooting Thu Mar 24, 2022 2:35 am
Was Pixar a Columbine copycat? Chilling...
_________________ My Blog - mr-bubbless.newtumbl.com
Engel, RandoKiwi32 and Ilikesharks like this post
nopenever
Posts : 90 Contribution Points : 48618 Forum Reputation : 75 Join date : 2020-04-15
Subject: Re: Pixar's Turning Red and The Columbine Shooting Thu Mar 24, 2022 3:38 am
Klebold: [predicting his parents’ feelings of regret] If only we could have reached them sooner, or found this tape. Harris: [also predicting] If only we would have searched their room. If only we would have asked the right questions. [talks about his mother being thoughtful, bringing him candy and Slim Jims] I really am sorry about all this.
Yeah... once you see the major parallel between that and a major WHAM line in the movie, you'll not s stop thinking about it.
Engel
Posts : 1244 Contribution Points : 41236 Forum Reputation : 197 Join date : 2021-10-27 Age : 23 Location : My head
Subject: Re: Pixar's Turning Red and The Columbine Shooting Thu Mar 24, 2022 1:03 pm
Mr Bubbless wrote:
Was Pixar a Columbine copycat? Chilling...
So was Disney. Even more chilling.
_________________ "I'll never understand humans. The way they live their lives, their feelings, the things they want to do in life, probably has something to do with these invisible gods they pray to. Meh" - Kimveer Gill
"Humanity is overrated, isn't it?" - Matti Saari
"Live in virtue, no desire And in the grave an angel's choir You look to heaven and wonder why No one can see them in the sky
Just as the clouds have gone to sleep Angels can be seen in heaven's keep Alone in fear, they question why Goddamn, not an angel when I die" - Engel, Rammstein (English version)
CSIAgent likes this post
nopenever
Posts : 90 Contribution Points : 48618 Forum Reputation : 75 Join date : 2020-04-15
Subject: Re: Pixar's Turning Red and The Columbine Shooting Thu Mar 24, 2022 5:41 pm
OK I've just realized that I think I might have some really disordered Unified Conspiracy theory behind my thinking about this movie and the columbine shooting. Think John Nash.
It's really unhealthy.
Screamingophelia Other Crimes Moderator & Top 10 Contributor
Posts : 6437 Contribution Points : 197476 Forum Reputation : 1327 Join date : 2017-08-25 Age : 36
Subject: Re: Pixar's Turning Red and The Columbine Shooting Thu Mar 24, 2022 9:57 pm
I am now fascinated and have to go and see it!
_________________ "And you know, you know, you know, this can be beautiful, you say you're numb inside, but I can't agree. So the world's unfair, keep it locked out there. In here it's beautiful."
nopenever
Posts : 90 Contribution Points : 48618 Forum Reputation : 75 Join date : 2020-04-15
Subject: Re: Pixar's Turning Red and The Columbine Shooting Fri Mar 25, 2022 3:34 am
Screamingophelia wrote:
I am now fascinated and have to go and see it!
The movie is cathartic. But also very triggering. To me at least.
nopenever
Posts : 90 Contribution Points : 48618 Forum Reputation : 75 Join date : 2020-04-15
Subject: Re: Pixar's Turning Red and The Columbine Shooting Fri Mar 25, 2022 3:44 am
This movie influenced me to have like religious based psychosis. But that's a personal issue for me.
nopenever
Posts : 90 Contribution Points : 48618 Forum Reputation : 75 Join date : 2020-04-15
Subject: Re: Pixar's Turning Red and The Columbine Shooting Fri Mar 25, 2022 4:31 am
Columbine is about teen angst and agony in 1999
Turning Red is about the same thing but in 2002. But at a PG level. HARD PG though.
All similarities stem from that.
nopenever
Posts : 90 Contribution Points : 48618 Forum Reputation : 75 Join date : 2020-04-15
Subject: Re: Pixar's Turning Red and The Columbine Shooting Fri Mar 25, 2022 4:42 am
Also the main director and writer of the movie, Domee Shi. She must have heard lurid and disturbing tales of Columbine when she was 11 years old or so.
Columbine is a MAJOR influence on artists/writers/poets like Ocean Vuong and Ben Lerner. So even if she doesn't know she was influenced by this trauma, it might have come through.
nopenever
Posts : 90 Contribution Points : 48618 Forum Reputation : 75 Join date : 2020-04-15
Subject: Re: Pixar's Turning Red and The Columbine Shooting Fri Mar 25, 2022 4:51 am
Also outside the Columbine incident, there is stuff in this movie that makes me think Domee Shi (or at least her and a collaborator), while they are geniuses.
They really need to go to fucking therapy man. Why are you showing a 13 year old girl in such agony and want to show it to the whole world? I mean it takes huge gonads to do though. This movie set off a violent explosion in my head and I hope it does for you too.
Minus the PTSD episode and Psychosis I got over this movie.
nopenever
Posts : 90 Contribution Points : 48618 Forum Reputation : 75 Join date : 2020-04-15
Subject: Re: Pixar's Turning Red and The Columbine Shooting Sat Mar 26, 2022 1:27 pm
Random note:
If movies like School of Rock and Whale Rider are PG-13, this movie could have been PG-13 too.
Luckily it isn't PG-13 though. More people see it that way if it's PG.
CSIAgent
Posts : 296 Contribution Points : 31008 Forum Reputation : 222 Join date : 2021-10-27 Age : 21 Location : Hell, USA
Subject: Re: Pixar's Turning Red and The Columbine Shooting Sat Mar 26, 2022 5:55 pm
Engel wrote:
Mr Bubbless wrote:
Was Pixar a Columbine copycat? Chilling...
So was Disney. Even more chilling.
Walt Disney was the sniper on the roof
_________________ If I could start again, a million miles away, I would keep myself. I would find a way
nopenever
Posts : 90 Contribution Points : 48618 Forum Reputation : 75 Join date : 2020-04-15
Subject: Re: Pixar's Turning Red and The Columbine Shooting Sun Mar 27, 2022 4:49 am
Looks like Chinese culture has a whole curriculum of She Said Yes stories.
"Kill your own children if it honors your parents."
"If your mom whoops you, only get sad if the whoopings get softer. Just means that she's getting older and more frail."
theartofwar
Posts : 87 Contribution Points : 38982 Forum Reputation : 0 Join date : 2020-10-09 Location : sinking through the world
Subject: Re: Pixar's Turning Red and The Columbine Shooting Sun Mar 27, 2022 7:24 pm
this movie honestly still makes me cringe. it's got all of the "illumination minion movie" animation vibes to it, dumb faces to capitalize on memes, and while i think the story is attempting to be admirable or stand out, i just cant get it.
disney and pixar by association used to be juggernauts and now they haven't really improved on anything since about 2005 or so, they're fading into mediocrity.
I haven't seen a disney movie since toy story 4 came out and other than that i dont remember the last i went to before that. I just can't stand to watch them anymore.
_________________ "i'll always be here for you, baby, rain or shine, you'll always be mine"
CSIAgent, ANOMIC and nochcherna like this post
nopenever
Posts : 90 Contribution Points : 48618 Forum Reputation : 75 Join date : 2020-04-15
Subject: Re: Pixar's Turning Red and The Columbine Shooting Sun Mar 27, 2022 10:56 pm
theartofwar wrote:
this movie honestly still makes me cringe. it's got all of the "illumination minion movie" animation vibes to it, dumb faces to capitalize on memes, and while i think the story is attempting to be admirable or stand out, i just cant get it.
disney and pixar by association used to be juggernauts and now they haven't really improved on anything since about 2005 or so, they're fading into mediocrity.
I haven't seen a disney movie since toy story 4 came out and other than that i dont remember the last i went to before that. I just can't stand to watch them anymore.
Honestly I totally get that. It might be hard to see anything more in the movie when the art style is so quirky. And yes the movies has A LOT of moments that are intended to make you die inside from embarrassment and/or shame. Cringe as it were.
Also this is meant to be a nostalgia bomb for people who knew the year 2002 (or years close to it.)
None of that has to do with the Columbine shooting of course.
nopenever
Posts : 90 Contribution Points : 48618 Forum Reputation : 75 Join date : 2020-04-15
Subject: Re: Pixar's Turning Red and The Columbine Shooting Mon Mar 28, 2022 3:07 pm
DOOM edit of this movie haha
Get up come on get down with the sickness
DanielBryer
Posts : 834 Contribution Points : 33703 Forum Reputation : 104 Join date : 2022-09-10 Age : 28 Location : Exeter, England
Subject: Re: Pixar's Turning Red and The Columbine Shooting Sun Sep 25, 2022 8:02 am
Don't look too far into it. It's just an innocent story about growing up.
Sponsored content
Subject: Re: Pixar's Turning Red and The Columbine Shooting