Uvalde Texas May 24

Xtina wrote:

Amokauliflower wrote:

Xtina wrote:

Who the fuck goes and kills little kids tho, I'll never understand that.

true. it would be so much more palatable if he'd waited a few years to take innocent lives for no good reason like the bloke in your pfp

Lol you have seen your pfp too right? Don't go giving me shit dude.

Why you hating on the regular show?

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So, the elementary school was definitely his target.

"It's annoying," he texted.
Six minutes later, he texted: "I just shot my grandma in her head."
Seconds later, he said, "Ima go shoot up a(n) elementary school rn (right now)."

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His birthday was May 16 so he bought the rifles less than a week before the shooting. The first on May 17, the second last Friday.

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It took roughly 40 minutes to kill the shooter, who barricaded himself in a classroom.

He was NOT wearing body armor. He was wearing a tactical vest that could hold ammunition.

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More info on the shooter. Basically reiterates what I've said prior, him giving himself scars on his face, people feeling uncomfortable around him, etc. The guns were recently purchased, as the shooter only turned 18 a week or two ago.


Apparently he had/sent images of animal abuse.

His grandfather says that the he was a felon (assuming gramps was referring to himself), and knows no way that he could've gotten the guns. The shooter had no license to drive and couldn't drive, so it's unknown how he was able to purchase the guns.

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"Ramos’ grandfather, Ronald Reyes, told ABC News that Ramos didn’t go to school last year and spent a lot of time alone in his room in his grandparents’ modest bungalow in Uvalde. “He didn’t talk very much,” said Reyes, who added that Ramos moved out of his mom’s home after they had “problems.”

Reyes said his grandson celebrated his 18th birthday on May 16 with a trip to Applebee’s with his grandmother—but they had no idea he also celebrated by purchasing two assault rifles and 375 rounds of ammunition."

I believe the grandfather was saying that he himself was a felon and that he refused to associate himself with firearms due to his criminal record, denying purchasing the firearms for Salvador because he was legally unable to.

"On Tuesday morning, Reyes said a neighbor alerted him that Ramos, who is unlicensed, had shot his grandmother and taken his grandmother’s truck. Newsy reported that a neighbor named Eduardo said Ramos was angry that he didn’t graduate and got into an argument with his grandmother. She was screaming “He shot me! He shot me!” the neighbor recounted to Newsy."


tldr school drop out that had a bad relationship with their mother (no surprise, common trend)

I believe the grandfather was saying that he himself was a felon and didn't want to associate himself with weapons because of it. He had no idea that Salvador owned the firearms and denied that he purchased it for him

More victims names are coming out.

Irma Garcia, 46 - fourth grade teacher
Eva Mireles, 44 - fourth grade teacher
Amerie Jo Garza, 10
Uziyah Garcia, 8
Makenna Elrod, 10
Xavier Lopez, 10
Eliahana Torres, 10
Ellie Lugo, 10
Nevaeh Bravo
Tess Marie Mata
Rojelio Torres, 10
Jayce Carmelo Luevanos, 10
Jailah Nicole Silguero, 10
Alithia Ramirez, 10
Annabell Guadalupe Rodriguez, 10
Miranda Mathis, 11
Alexandria 'Lexi' Aniyah Rubio, 10
Maite Yuleana
Jose Flores Jr, 10

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Enforcement on the scene said that the shooter barricaded himself inside one fourth grade classrooms where all 19 of the kids were shot.

Shooter’s mother has come out to speak, denying claims of a rough relationship with her son. Grandmother had worked at Robb Elementary.

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Two AR platform rifles were purchased legally on May 17 (also seeing that one was purchased on the 17, and the other was purchased on 20th). 375 rounds of ammunition was purchased on the 18th. Inside the school 7 30-round magazines were found. The DDm4 was 2k USD$ And purchased online, picked up at a local dealer. It’s said that the gun found inside the school was the one he had ordered online. One of the guns was found inside the vehicle he crashed outside of the school, with a backpack containing ammunition.

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also I guess he left his mom’s house because she cut the wifi first world problems

hermit wrote:

Shooter’s mother has come out to speak, denying claims of a rough relationship with her son.

This could either be a self serving statement for the cameras or perhaps the shooter's disdain for her was one sided and/or secretive. I do have to wonder why the conflicting accounts.

hermit wrote:

Grandmother had worked at Robb Elementary.

Well I guess we don't have to wonder why the choice in location.

Holy shit. The shooter was born 33 years 3 months 3 weeks after the founding of the World Economic Forum and 66 years 6 weeks 6 days after the birth of Klaus Schwab. If that's not incriminating I don't know what is.

Amokauliflower wrote:

Xtina wrote:

Amokauliflower wrote:

Xtina wrote:

Who the fuck goes and kills little kids tho, I'll never understand that.

true. it would be so much more palatable if he'd waited a few years to take innocent lives for no good reason like the bloke in your pfp

Lol you have seen your pfp too right? Don't go giving me shit dude.

wdym? it's from regular show

We're on a columbine forum these pfp pics aren't a surprise.

Xtina wrote:

Amokauliflower wrote:

Xtina wrote:

Amokauliflower wrote:

Xtina wrote:

Who the fuck goes and kills little kids tho, I'll never understand that.

true. it would be so much more palatable if he'd waited a few years to take innocent lives for no good reason like the bloke in your pfp

Lol you have seen your pfp too right? Don't go giving me shit dude.

wdym? it's from regular show

We're on a columbine forum these pfp pics aren't a surprise.

you missed my point

QuestionMark wrote:

hermit wrote:

Grandmother had worked at Robb Elementary.

Well I guess we don't have to wonder why the choice in location.

If you check the new map posted by New York Post, his abuela's house is like two blocks away from the elementary school which can also be a reason why he picked that location.

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I'd be very interested in hearing that border patrol agent's story. Unfortunately, it's probably only going to be released if Texas has a trial about how bad the cops fucked up in the shooting.

I also find it interesting how this is an example of a massacre where any other type of gun/or if the rifle gets jammed and he only had a knife left in the classroom would result in the same outcome since the shooter had around 40 minutes to himself in the classroom. He also literally locked the door.

RIP lolis

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Hopefully if there's any connection here it's elaborated on.

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Hopefully if there's any connection here it's elaborated on.

Thanks for sharing this. EXTREMELY interesting and reveals a lot, that is, if these are connected.

Again, if connected, interested to hear the other kid speak.

If not connected, odd coincidence. Also strange that 2 school related shootings in Texas took place within the same week (one failed though), I looked up the location distance between the Uvalde one and the one that failed and it’s a 6 hr long drive. May just be my brain making 100020392893 possible connections because we know nothing, though info I’m basing it off of hasn’t even been confirmed haha. Who knows

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“UVALDE, Texas – The husband of one of the teachers who was shot and killed at Robb Elementary School while trying to protect her students has also died, family members confirm.
Irma Garcia’s husband, Joe, “passed away due to grief,” a nephew posted on Twitter.
According to Irma Garcia’s online teacher’s biography, the couple had been married for 24 years and have four children.”

“I have my eldest Cristian son completing Marine boot camp and another son Jose attending Texas State university University,” Garcia states on her teacher’s page. “My eldest daughter Lyliana will be a sophomore in high school and my youngest Alysandra will be a 7th grader this year.”

The grieving husband of one of the murdered teachers that protected her students has died of a heart attack, the family leaves behind 4 kids

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Oh it's some trans faggot.

Wouldn't committing mass murder trigger "her" gender dysphoria since it's male behavior?
*Eye roll*

BREAKING: new pictures of Robb Elementary shooter Salvador Rolando Ramos 

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Aparrently He discussed with his mother for the Wifi, and posted and video about his Discussion in Ig account, then he leave her mother House and goes to his grandmother House.

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“When the cops came, the cop said: 'Yell if you need help!' And one of the persons in my class said 'help.' The guy overheard and he came in and shot her," the boy said. "The cop barged into that classroom. The guy shot at the cop. And the cops started shooting.”

There's a video of the interview with the nine year old in the article.

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“Salvador Ramos was a boy who was not bullied, he would try to pick on people and fail and it would aggravate him. I’d like to get that out of the way, he was not bullied. He- prior, and I don’t see this covered, and I’m gonna put this out there- he would hurt animals. He was not a good person, he would go to the park and try to pick fights.”

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Hopefully if there's any connection here it's elaborated on.

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This has been confirmed to be Salvador Ramos.

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So now I wanna know wtf the mom meant by “my son isn’t violent” haha, there’s no way she’d think this wouldn’t be dug up

hermit wrote:

“Salvador Ramos was a boy who was not bullied, he would try to pick on people and fail and it would aggravate him. I’d like to get that out of the way, he was not bullied. He- prior, and I don’t see this covered, and I’m gonna put this out there- he would hurt animals. He was not a good person, he would go to the park and try to pick fights.”

hermit wrote:

This has been confirmed to be Salvador Ramos.

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So now I wanna know wtf the mom meant by “my son isn’t violent” haha, there’s no way she’d think this wouldn’t be dug up

This is turning into Parkland 2: Elementary School Boogaloo.

I wonder if we'll ever get a FOIA out of this, or they'll lock everything up like Sandy Hook

Gonna assume the mom is an absolute idiot, already had that in the genes for this kid

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“I have no words, I have no words to say, I don’t know what he was thinking. He had his reasons for doing what he did and please don’t judge him,” Ramos’ mother, Adriana Martínez said. “I only want the innocent children who died, to forgive me.”

A reporter asked his mother, “What do you tell their families?”

“Forgive me, forgive me, my son. I know he has his reason,” she continued.

“What reasons could he have had?” a reporter questioned.

“I have no words, I don’t know,” Martinez said.

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“reasons” haha, literally had a record of being a columbine larper and fighting kids, yet she says “he wasn’t violent” as with all things, have to wait for multiple perspectives to come out to puzzle stuff together. With his prior inspo of Columbozos, wouldn’t be surprised if he had an angsty journal or note out there somewhere

I really want to see the other kid he talked with planning a massacre as a 13/14 yo has to say about Ramos, if that kid’s identity is ever publicly disclosed.

Guess they backtracked and Ramos wasn’t the 2018 one, time to edit posts for misinfo RIP

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Husband of Irma Garcia dies from heart attack

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In the months prior

In September 2021, the shooter asked his sister to help him buy a gun and she "flatly refused," McCraw said.

The shooter was in a group chat on Instagram and in it, there was a February 28 discussion of the suspect being a "school shooter," McCraw said.

On March 1, the shooter had an Instagram chat with several others in which he discussed buying a gun, McCraw said. Two days later, there was another group chat in which someone said, "word on the street" was that the suspect was buying a gun. The shooter replied, "just bought something rn."

On March 14, the shooter wrote in an Instagram post, "10 more days." Another user replied, "'are you going to shoot up a school or something?' The shooter replied, 'no and stop asking dumb questions and you'll see,'" McCraw said.

On May 17 and May 20, the shooter legally purchased two AR platform rifles at a local federal firearms licensee, said Texas state Sen. John Whitmire, who received a briefing from law enforcement.

The shooter also purchased 375 rounds of ammunition on May 18, Whitmire said, citing law enforcement.
State Sen. Roland Gutierrez said the purchases were made for the suspect's 18th birthday.

He shot his grandmother and left the house

Before going to the school and committing a massacre, the shooter sent a series of chilling text messages to a girl he met online, according to screenshots reviewed by CNN and an interview with the girl.

The teen girl, who lives in Germany, said she began chatting with the shooter on a social media app earlier this month. The shooter told her that on Monday, he received a package of ammunition, she said.

On Tuesday morning, Ramos called her and told her he loved her, she said.
He complained about his grandmother being on the phone with AT&T about "my phone."
"It's annoying," he texted.

Six minutes later, at 11:21 a.m., he texted: "I just shot my grandma in her head."
Seconds later, he said, "Ima go shoot up a(n) elementary school rn (right now)."

Suspect began firing outside of school

On Tuesday, May 24, at 11:27 a.m.: Video shows an exterior door of Robb Elementary school, which is suspected to be where the shooter entered from, was propped open by a teacher, McCraw said during a Friday news conference.

11:28 a.m.: The shooter's vehicle crashes into a ditch near the school. A teacher runs into a room to get a phone and returns to the exit door, which remains propped open, McCraw said. The suspect jumps out from the passenger side of the truck with a rifle and a bag, which officials later discovered was ammunition, DPS director Victor Escalon said at a Thursday news conference.

Two witnesses meanwhile, who were at a funeral home across the street from the school, hear the crash and go to see what happened. The suspect begins firing at them, McCraw said. Both began running away.

11:30 a.m.: A teacher reemerges in a panic and "apparently" called 911, McCraw said. In a separate statement, the US Marshals Service said it received a call for assistance at 11:30 a.m. from a Uvalde Police Department officer.

11:31 a.m.: The suspect reaches the last row of vehicles at the school parking lot and begins shooting at the school, McCraw said. Patrol vehicles begin to arrive at the funeral home.

There was no school resource officer that confronted the suspect outside the school, as officials had previously described, McCraw said. A school resource officer was not on scene but heard the 911 call about a man with a gun, drove to the area and sped to the back of the school, to a person he thought was the suspect but was a teacher, McCraw said.

"In doing so, (the school resource officer) drove right by the suspect, who was hunkered down behind a vehicle, where he began shooting at the school," McCraw said. Multiple shots were fired by the suspect, he added.

First officers entered school more than 1 hour before shooter was killed

11:33 a.m.: The shooter enters the school and begins shooting into a classroom, which is connected to a second class. He shot "at least" 100 rounds, McCraw said.

11:35 a.m.: Three Uvalde Police Department officers enter through the same door as the suspect. Another three Uvalde police officers and a county sheriff follow, McCraw said, for a total of seven officers on scene.

The three initial officers went directly to the class door, which was closed, and two received grazing wounds from the shooter, McCraw said.

11:37 a.m.: Another 16 rounds are fired in the following minutes.

11:42 a.m.: A source close to a teacher receives a text saying there was an active shooter on campus. CNN saw the text chain and confirmed the timestamps.

11:43 a.m.: Robb Elementary announces on Facebook it's under a lockdown status "due to gunshots in the area," adding that "the students and staff are safe in the building."

Roughly 11:44 a.m.: Officers are calling for additional resources, equipment, body armor, negotiators and evacuating students and teachers, Escalon said Thursday.

11:51 a.m.: More officers arrive on scene, McCraw said.

12:03 p.m.: Officers continue to arrive in the hallway of the school. "There's as many as 19 officers at that time in that hallway," McCraw said.

12:03 p.m.: A young girl from inside one of the adjoining classrooms calls 911, identifies herself and whispers the classroom she is in. The call lasted a minute and 23 seconds. She calls back several minutes later and says multiple people are dead.

12:10 p.m.: First group of deputy US Marshals arrives on scene to assist "federal, state, and local law enforcement already on scene," the Marshals Service said in its statement.

12:13 p.m.: The girl calls 911 again, McCraw said.

12:15 p.m.: Members of the Border Patrol's tactical unit, BORTAC, arrive on scene, McCraw said.

(When Border Patrol agents began to arrive, the officer in charge of the situation had already made the determination that it was a barricaded subject situation, a source familiar with the situation said. The team then waited, not breaching the classroom where the shooter was holed up -- until nearly 40 minutes later. McCraw said the person who made that decision was the school district police chief, calling it the "wrong decision," not to engage with the gunman sooner.)

12:17 p.m.: Robb Elementary announces on Facebook that there is an active shooter at the school and authorities are at the scene.

12:16 p.m.: The girl calls 911 again and tells dispatchers there are eight to nine students alive, McCraw said.

12:19 p.m.: Another person calls 911 from one of the two classrooms and hangs up when another student tells her to, McCraw said.

12:21 p.m.: The suspect fires again. He was believed to be at the door, McCraw said.

Law enforcement move down the hallway.

12:21 p.m.: Three shots fired are heard from another 911 call made.

12:36 p.m.: The initial student who called 911 calls again, is told to be very quiet and tells dispatchers "he shot the door,' McCraw said. The call lasted 21 seconds.

12:43 p.m.: The young girl asks dispatchers to "please send the police now."

12:47 p.m.: The student asks for police again, McCraw said. A minute earlier, she had said she could hear the police next door.

12:50 p.m.: Law enforcement breach the locked classroom door using keys from a janitor, McCraw said. They shoot and kill the suspect.

12:51 p.m.: Through the young girl's 911 call, there are loud noises and officers can be heard moving children out of the room, McCraw said. The child goes outside and the call cuts off.

The suspect purchased and had a total of 1,657 total rounds of ammunition, McCraw said -- at least 315 of them were inside the school.
And 142 of those were spent cartridges.

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this has been such a shitshow. it's going to be a 'combo' of all the outcomes from columbine, sandy hook and parkland.

police will be criticized a la columbine
gun control from sandy hook (might?) happen
mental health help from parkland (plus the cop criticism)

overall a culmination of the three and unfortunately 21 lives were lost due to this virgin. i hope that some change actually happens for once.

All we can take from this is that there will always be 2bit cops too afraid to protect the lives they swore to protect. They like to act all big, bad and elite when doing drills and reinforcing their measures but when it comes to the real thing they fail, as the death clock keeps ticking lives are lost and as long as it is still ticking lives are being lost, Time is the biggest enemy in this regard. No one had the presence of mind to shoot through the outside classroom windows apparently, instead they sit 19 armed men deep in a hallway pinned at a door doing nothing for more than half an hour.