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Subject: What FOIA would YOU like to see? Mon Mar 13, 2023 12:11 am
I'm currently looking into seeing whether I can get a FOIA request going. Tell me what you'd like to see.
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Subject: Re: What FOIA would YOU like to see? Mon Mar 13, 2023 12:58 am
The Brenton Tarrant interview
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Subject: Re: What FOIA would YOU like to see? Mon Mar 13, 2023 1:08 am
ColaEnthusiast wrote:
The Brenton Tarrant interview
I doubt I could get that in 'murica, but I will look into it.
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Subject: Re: What FOIA would YOU like to see? Mon Mar 13, 2023 1:21 am
I would at least like to see some CCTV footage of William Atchison inside the building or even just an image. Although I read somewhere that there isn't any. Perhaps its existence is just a myth... I was also considering making a FOIA for some audio of the 911 calls made at Weis Markets. In general, 911 calls are something I'm pretty interested in seeing/hearing.
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Subject: Re: What FOIA would YOU like to see? Mon Mar 13, 2023 2:48 am
David Katz autopsy report, Darion Aguilar autopsy report, Ian Long autopsy report, pictures that Adam Lanza took of his car, Santino Legan autopsy report and crime scene photos etc, Orlando Harris autopsy report, Jonathan Sapirman autopsy report and crime scene photos etc, Brandon Hole autopsy report, Jarrod Ramos crime scene photos etc, Uk Thang autopsy report and crime scene photos etc, Geddy Kramer autopsy report, pictures Karl Pierson took of himself geared up and with his weapons, more Joe Esquivel information, Payton Gendron crime scene photos, Salvador Ramos autopsy report, Ethan Miller autopsy report, Devin Kelley tumblr account, Kevin Neal crime scene photos etc, Lyndon McLeod autopsy report. Not saying you have to do a FOIA for everything I just said just a list of options cause some cases will be hard to get FOIA's out of. Pretty sure most everything I mentioned isn't released yet.
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Subject: Re: What FOIA would YOU like to see? Mon Mar 13, 2023 3:19 am
Hello? Yes, I'd like to speak to the based department.
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Subject: Re: What FOIA would YOU like to see? Mon Mar 13, 2023 3:53 am
I'm interested in Christian Nielsen's confession. Over labor day weekend in 2006, he shot a person to death in a forest, & then three more at the inn he worked at in Maine. After he got caught, he led the cops to the body of his first victim (the one in the forest) & confessed to it while being recorded. Only about two minutes of that confession was released (see the video below).
He also confessed to the other murders in the interrogation room of a police station. None of that interview has been made public.
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Subject: Re: What FOIA would YOU like to see? Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:30 am
The full Seung-Hui Cho video manifesto, interviews of Patrick Crusius & Payton Gendron, William Atchison's manifesto.
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Subject: Re: What FOIA would YOU like to see? Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:52 am
The photo of Jared Lee Loughner wearing a red G-string
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Subject: Re: What FOIA would YOU like to see? Mon Mar 13, 2023 8:34 am
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Subject: Re: What FOIA would YOU like to see? Mon Mar 13, 2023 12:31 pm
Would love to see if police can provide us with any more photos or even videos where William Atchison is talking. Maybe from his computer or camera, as he didn't have a smartphone.
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Subject: Re: What FOIA would YOU like to see? Mon Mar 13, 2023 11:38 pm
CanIHelpYou wrote:
Would love to see if police can provide us with any photos or even videos where William Atchison is talking. Maybe from his computer or camera, as he didn't have a smartphone.
You could try requesting it yourself, New Mexico has lax info laws and the stuff should be free.
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Subject: Re: What FOIA would YOU like to see? Sat Mar 18, 2023 2:59 am
Payton Gendron’s interview after his arrest.
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Subject: Re: What FOIA would YOU like to see? Yesterday at 7:32 pm
I want to see the full, non-laggy footage of the Top's supermarket shooting.
Payton Gendron's GoPro Hero 7 may have contained an SD card with the full footage. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
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Subject: Re: What FOIA would YOU like to see? Yesterday at 7:34 pm
Licht wrote:
The full Seung-Hui Cho video manifesto, interviews of Patrick Crusius & Payton Gendron, William Atchison's manifesto.
I really want to see some more Seung-Hui Cho content. There is no way NBC News was not required to hand it all over to law enforcement.
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Subject: Re: What FOIA would YOU like to see? Yesterday at 8:15 pm
The Dayton shooting victim crime scene photos, as well as other unseen content.
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Subject: Re: What FOIA would YOU like to see? Yesterday at 9:14 pm
normalface wrote:
I want to see the full, non-laggy footage of the Top's supermarket shooting.
Payton Gendron's GoPro Hero 7 may have contained an SD card with the full footage. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
You think the feds would really hand that over?
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Subject: Re: What FOIA would YOU like to see? Yesterday at 9:25 pm
Anything to do with Patrick Purdy.
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Subject: Re: What FOIA would YOU like to see? Yesterday at 9:49 pm
NEXT STEP UP wrote:
normalface wrote:
I want to see the full, non-laggy footage of the Top's supermarket shooting.
Payton Gendron's GoPro Hero 7 may have contained an SD card with the full footage. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
You think the feds would really hand that over?
Who knows? In the Sandy Hook case they had to pass an actual law to stop people from using FOIA to get pictures of dead kids.
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Subject: Re: What FOIA would YOU like to see? Yesterday at 9:59 pm
normalface wrote:
NEXT STEP UP wrote:
normalface wrote:
I want to see the full, non-laggy footage of the Top's supermarket shooting.
Payton Gendron's GoPro Hero 7 may have contained an SD card with the full footage. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
You think the feds would really hand that over?
Who knows? In the Sandy Hook case they had to pass an actual law to stop people from using FOIA to get pictures of dead kids.
They made a law for that??? Dafuq?
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Subject: Re: What FOIA would YOU like to see? Yesterday at 10:04 pm
NEXT STEP UP wrote:
normalface wrote:
NEXT STEP UP wrote:
normalface wrote:
I want to see the full, non-laggy footage of the Top's supermarket shooting.
Payton Gendron's GoPro Hero 7 may have contained an SD card with the full footage. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
You think the feds would really hand that over?
Who knows? In the Sandy Hook case they had to pass an actual law to stop people from using FOIA to get pictures of dead kids.
They made a law for that??? Dafuq?
Unfortunately, yes. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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Subject: Re: What FOIA would YOU like to see? Yesterday at 10:14 pm
normalface wrote:
NEXT STEP UP wrote:
normalface wrote:
NEXT STEP UP wrote:
normalface wrote:
I want to see the full, non-laggy footage of the Top's supermarket shooting.
Payton Gendron's GoPro Hero 7 may have contained an SD card with the full footage. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
You think the feds would really hand that over?
Who knows? In the Sandy Hook case they had to pass an actual law to stop people from using FOIA to get pictures of dead kids.
They made a law for that??? Dafuq?
Unfortunately, yes. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
But there were photos of Atchison's victims??? I hate inconsistencies in lawmaking but I'll let it slide for once. I don't really feel like anything's gained research-wise from seeing a pile of dead children.
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Subject: Re: What FOIA would YOU like to see? Yesterday at 10:31 pm
NEXT STEP UP wrote:
normalface wrote:
NEXT STEP UP wrote:
normalface wrote:
NEXT STEP UP wrote:
normalface wrote:
I want to see the full, non-laggy footage of the Top's supermarket shooting.
Payton Gendron's GoPro Hero 7 may have contained an SD card with the full footage. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
You think the feds would really hand that over?
Who knows? In the Sandy Hook case they had to pass an actual law to stop people from using FOIA to get pictures of dead kids.
They made a law for that??? Dafuq?
Unfortunately, yes. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
But there were photos of Atchison's victims??? I hate inconsistencies in lawmaking but I'll let it slide for once. I don't really feel like anything's gained research-wise from seeing a pile of dead children.
I think there is always benefit in showing reality. Withholding the evidence created a vacuum that had to be filled by something. Alex Jones took advantage of this by broadcasting conspiracy theories to push supplement sales. After reading the book Sandy Hook: An American Tragedy and the Battle for Truth, I could argue that this was far more damaging to the families than the photos being released would have been.
It would have been a lot harder for Alex Jones and other bad actors to lie about Sandy Hook if the graphic evidence was not withheld.
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Subject: Re: What FOIA would YOU like to see? Yesterday at 10:44 pm
normalface wrote:
NEXT STEP UP wrote:
normalface wrote:
NEXT STEP UP wrote:
normalface wrote:
NEXT STEP UP wrote:
normalface wrote:
I want to see the full, non-laggy footage of the Top's supermarket shooting.
Payton Gendron's GoPro Hero 7 may have contained an SD card with the full footage. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
You think the feds would really hand that over?
Who knows? In the Sandy Hook case they had to pass an actual law to stop people from using FOIA to get pictures of dead kids.
They made a law for that??? Dafuq?
Unfortunately, yes. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
But there were photos of Atchison's victims??? I hate inconsistencies in lawmaking but I'll let it slide for once. I don't really feel like anything's gained research-wise from seeing a pile of dead children.
I think there is always benefit in showing reality. Withholding the evidence created a vacuum that had to be filled by something. Alex Jones took advantage of this by broadcasting conspiracy theories to push supplement sales. After reading the book Sandy Hook: An American Tragedy and the Battle for Truth, I could argue that this was far more damaging to the families than the photos being released would have been.
It would have been a lot harder for Alex Jones and other bad actors to lie about Sandy Hook if the graphic evidence was not withheld.
True, but I've heard of parents who have their children's bodies and deaths put online often get harassed with them. No one wants their children's corpses just out for all to see.
I don't think even a bunch of pictures of dead kids can convince conspiracy theorists that Sandy Hook is real. You have to have some level of denial and mental gymnastics to even believe that the government had faked or backed a whole school shooting just to push gun laws They would probably pick the crime scene photos apart and find something in them to confirm their theories.
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Subject: Re: What FOIA would YOU like to see? Yesterday at 11:02 pm
Sylar wrote:
normalface wrote:
NEXT STEP UP wrote:
normalface wrote:
NEXT STEP UP wrote:
normalface wrote:
NEXT STEP UP wrote:
normalface wrote:
I want to see the full, non-laggy footage of the Top's supermarket shooting.
Payton Gendron's GoPro Hero 7 may have contained an SD card with the full footage. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
You think the feds would really hand that over?
Who knows? In the Sandy Hook case they had to pass an actual law to stop people from using FOIA to get pictures of dead kids.
They made a law for that??? Dafuq?
Unfortunately, yes. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
But there were photos of Atchison's victims??? I hate inconsistencies in lawmaking but I'll let it slide for once. I don't really feel like anything's gained research-wise from seeing a pile of dead children.
I think there is always benefit in showing reality. Withholding the evidence created a vacuum that had to be filled by something. Alex Jones took advantage of this by broadcasting conspiracy theories to push supplement sales. After reading the book Sandy Hook: An American Tragedy and the Battle for Truth, I could argue that this was far more damaging to the families than the photos being released would have been.
It would have been a lot harder for Alex Jones and other bad actors to lie about Sandy Hook if the graphic evidence was not withheld.
True, but I've heard of parents who have their children's bodies and deaths put online often get harassed with them. No one wants their children's corpses just out for all to see.
I don't think even a bunch of pictures of dead kids can convince conspiracy theorists that Sandy Hook is real. You have to have some level of denial and mental gymnastics to even believe that the government had faked or backed a whole school shooting just to push gun laws They would probably pick the crime scene photos apart and find something in them to confirm their theories.
You are not wrong. It is quite difficult to reason somebody out of a position that they did not reason themselves into.
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