Shooters that were inexperienced with their weapons

Obviously, most shooters are fairly comfortable with their guns and other weapons. Were there any that were very inexperienced or completely new to theirs?

Ctirad Vitasek, Ostrava hospital shooter, The witnesses said that it was obvious that he did not know how to shoot and that it took him 5 seconds to fix a jam.

Salvador Ramos Apparently he didn't have much knowledge about weapons, he tried to find a place to train but he couldn't find a place that would accept his weapons or something like that, and he also tried to hide the weapons by all means (this is mentioned in the Uvalde police report).

Alec Mckinney didnt know about guns

Apparently Nikolas Cruz had shot the AR-15 he used to shoot up MSDHS only once before; in his garage.

Salvador Ramos hadn't even fired a gun before the day of the shooting. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Woundfucker wrote:

Salvador Ramos hadn't even fired a gun before the day of the shooting. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

That is insane. I would have never guessed a shooter with a kill count as high as his would be so inexperienced.

Sylar wrote:

Woundfucker wrote:

Salvador Ramos hadn't even fired a gun before the day of the shooting. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

That is insane.  I would have never guessed a shooter with a kill count as high as his would be so inexperienced.

Not really hard to hit a bunch of fucking middle schoolers in a small, cramped room. Spray and pray (and listen to gay music) = GG ez

Woundfucker wrote:

Salvador Ramos hadn't even fired a gun before the day of the shooting. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Interesting fact that the Encyclopedia Dramatica High Score has both professional soldiers and shooters who fired a gun for the first time during their shooting on it.

  

RUCheck wrote:

Sylar wrote:

Woundfucker wrote:

Salvador Ramos hadn't even fired a gun before the day of the shooting.

That is insane.  I would have never guessed a shooter with a kill count as high as his would be so inexperienced.

Not really hard to hit a bunch of fucking middle schoolers in a small, cramped room. Spray and pray (and listen to gay music) = GG ez

I get you’re joking, but he didn’t spray and pray, his shots were likely pretty deliberate when he did fire; it’s just the police response made his much more notable than it would’ve been otherwise. The shooting was by all accounts fairly impulsive, with him failing even to double-tap his grandmother, and just about the sole reason he did get as many as he did, was because the cops didn’t give a shit. He probably would’ve only killed like a few kids and wounded maybe one or two if it had been something more like the cases with Christopher Harper-Mercer, or Adam Lanza. (Both individuals trained with guns from a young age, and both, by all accounts from what I’ve seen being some of the most successful in doing what they wanted on the short timeframe they were given; at least in the United States).

Martin Bryant wasn't necessarily 'inexperienced' as I believe he had fired weapons prior to the massacre, but he was a piss-poor shot from what I've read. Assuming that he truly was the perpetrator, firing off rounds from the hip, headshots all-round, I'd call that a Christmas (maybe Easter would be more fitting?) miracle.

Welington Menezes de Oliveira tried emailing a shooting range owner to get some firearms training, but ghosted him when he asked for his gun's legal paperwork. According to the same guy, Wellington seemed like he had zero experience with guns before shooting up the school, fiddling with the reloaders and barely knowing how to aim. This seems to check out, seeing the K/I ratio.