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Taped-magazines, bump-stocks, locales, police response times etc. (Oh and in case it’s perceived as such; this isn’t meant as a suspicious question). I’d be curious to hear if anyone has ever used a fully automatic rifle for a shooting. I can’t find one anywhere worldwide; even ex-policemen and soldiers seemingly use semiautomatic weaponry. The only things I haven’t found like any of other than that, are notable middle school shootings or large death-toll Asian hate crimes.

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Eduardo Sencion Modified his Norinco Rifle to make it fully automatic

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Hmm. Curious. That’s pretty sad actually. You’d think people would want fully-automatic weaponry. But it does make sense when you think about it. I mean, semi-automatic allows more accuracy on the deliverance of your shots, and fully-automatic rifles would be quite situational and require large amounts of ammo. Maybe if they fired on a crowd? It’s just I was thinking something like Stephen Paddock’s case. His bump stocks worked perfectly in targeting the large number of people that were attending the festival. In school shootings at least, it totally makes sense that you’d want a single-shot gun like an AR-15 or Saiga (substitute any semi-auto rifle or shotgun). I know Woo Bum-Kon used grenades, and if Dylan Jarrell had carried out his shooting, it’s hard for me to believe that the bump-stock wouldn’t have been immensely successful for his goal of killing as many as possible. It would appear to me that bump stocks—in attaining a large number of kills—retains more consistency than a straight-out machine gun. Though perhaps a semi-and-auto swapping gun would be ideal for someone who wanted to kill a large amount. Then again, it is all in the individual…! Cho Seung-hui murdered just around thirty with pistols, and Artem Kazantsev got a large amount with pistols too. East Asian arson attacks have been seemingly consistently devastating to any community from what I’ve seen too and the Beslan School Siege… well, sorry, I’m trailing off. Point is… no point I was rambling.

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Hmm. Curious. That’s pretty sad actually. You’d think people would want fully-automatic weaponry. But it does make sense when you think about it. I mean, semi-automatic allows more accuracy on the deliverance of your shots, and fully-automatic rifles would be quite situational and require large amounts of ammo. Maybe if they fired on a crowd? It’s just I was thinking something like Stephen Paddock’s case. His bump stocks worked perfectly in targeting the large number of people that were attending the festival. In school shootings at least, it totally makes sense that you’d want a single-shot gun like an AR-15 or Saiga (substitute any semi-auto rifle or shotgun). I know Woo Bum-Kon used grenades, and if Dylan Jarrell had carried out his shooting, it’s hard for me to believe that the bump-stock wouldn’t have been immensely successful for his goal of killing as many as possible. It would appear to me that bump stocks—in attaining a large number of kills—retains more consistency than a straight-out machine gun. Though perhaps a semi-and-auto swapping gun would be ideal for someone who wanted to kill a large amount.  Then again, it is all in the individual…! Cho Seung-hui murdered just around thirty with pistols, and Artem Kazantsev got a large amount with pistols too. East Asian arson attacks have been seemingly consistently devastating to any community from what I’ve seen too and the Beslan School Siege… well, sorry, I’m trailing off. Point is… no point I was rambling.

Just thought it was strange, is all. My personal statement, since no one seems to have given me an answer to the first part, is that convenience in accessing the firepower and ammunition, as well as the animosity or certainty of the individual seems to determine the death toll the most accurately. If anyone would give me some trends they’ve noticed that lead to higher or lower deaths in school shootings, that’d be beneficially interesting for me too.

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Raymond Spencer (Edmund Burke School shooter) used three fully-automatic rifles in his shooting. He was trying to pull off Las Vegas 2.0 at a school during dismissal time but IIRC there was some kind of event which let the kids out early, so he ended up spraying hundreds of rounds at a mostly empty street.

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It seems that just shooting people over and over does the trick. Seung-Hui Cho did that with a 9mm pistol and a 22. LR pistol and killed 32, Brenton Tarrant killed 51 with a similar method, even though he did tape his magazines together and use close-range sights

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It seems that just shooting people over and over does the trick. Seung-Hui Cho did that with a 9mm pistol and a 22. LR pistol and killed 32, Brenton Tarrant killed 51 with a similar method, even though he did tape his magazines together and use close-range sights
As did Anders Breivik. First to immobilize, second to kill.

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I guess mag dumping the bodies but that's obvious. Maybe using more powerful ammo like how Cho used hollow points or Adam used soft point ammo (pic rel)[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

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This guy that made this thread was very articulate and intelligent. It’s curious he stopped posting. Must have many problems in his life.

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This guy that made this thread was very articulate and intelligent. It’s curious he stopped posting. Must have many problems in his life.

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Raymond Spencer (Edmund Burke School shooter) used three fully-automatic rifles in his shooting. He was trying to pull off Las Vegas 2.0 at a school during dismissal time but IIRC there was some kind of event which let the kids out early, so he ended up spraying hundreds of rounds at a mostly empty street.
What gets me about this one is that these don't seem to be modified semi-automatics but rifles made intentionally to be full auto. Im not expert on gun law but I have absolutely no idea how he would've obtained these also he had 4 rifles. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

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AMCdanbury wrote:
Raymond Spencer (Edmund Burke School shooter) used three fully-automatic rifles in his shooting. He was trying to pull off Las Vegas 2.0 at a school during dismissal time but IIRC there was some kind of event which let the kids out early, so he ended up spraying hundreds of rounds at a mostly empty street.
What gets me about this one is that these don't seem to be modified semi-automatics but rifles made intentionally to be full auto. Im not expert on gun law but I have absolutely no idea how he would've obtained these also he had 4 rifles. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]


Nah, the "AUTO" marking doesn't mean he actually purchased a fully-automatic weapon. Some semi-automatic lower receivers have that marking just for aesthetics.

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