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Subject: Why does no one give a shit about Robert Card? Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:16 am
He gets about as much attention as Andrew Wanyama despite 19 people being dead and 13 injured by the end of his tomfoolery. I’m starting to think he actually is a false flag because the anomalous extent that no one cares about him, does not statistically correlate to what he did. There was a massive police search. It’s the deadliest in Maine, and he killed enough to be in the top ten mass shootings in the U.S. . He even killed himself in a relatively unique way. What, was his personality not cute or edgy enough? Remember this guy. No one even knows why he did it. He was just, like, suicidal or something. No matter what the deal is with him, I think more people should be reminded of his name and face so I’m gonna post this as a reminder of said things.
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Subject: Re: Why does no one give a shit about Robert Card? Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:20 am
Subject: Re: Why does no one give a shit about Robert Card? Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:56 am
EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:
He gets about as much attention as Andrew Wanyama despite 19 people being dead and 13 injured by the end of his tomfoolery. I’m starting to think he actually is a false flag because the anomalous extent that no one cares about him, does not statistically correlate to what he did. There was a massive police search. It’s the deadliest in Maine, and he killed enough to be in the top ten mass shootings in the U.S. . He even killed himself in a relatively unique way. What, was his personality not cute or edgy enough? Remember this guy. No one even knows why he did it. He was just, like, suicidal or something. No matter what the deal is with him, I think more people should be reminded of his name and face so I’m gonna post this as a reminder of said things.
Because mass shooting are so common now
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Subject: Re: Why does no one give a shit about Robert Card? Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:06 am
Yeah, shootings are super common now, but like they said, this wasn't just a random shooting. It was pretty deadly with some unique elements that would ordinarily stick out regardless of the year. My guess is because he was ex-military, a "model American" for lack of better words, and the press doesn't want to admit that the problem just might very well be our own government...
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Subject: Re: Why does no one give a shit about Robert Card? Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:07 am
There isn't much to be covered about him in general. He looks normal at first glance. He worked in the military, made threats before, and was "hearing voices." In general, you don't see a lot of "older" mass killers in the news. Also, he had no known motive or manifesto, suicide note, or large social media presence, he also died shortly after the attack and generally, mass shooters with trials get more attention.
Mass shootings happen almost every day now so you would have to "stand out" in some way. People and the media tend to care more about school shootings than a random bowling alley or restaurant shooting. He did get some media attention though, just not at the level of Ramos or Gendron.
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Subject: Re: Why does no one give a shit about Robert Card? Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:38 am
"Also, he had no known motive or manifesto, suicide note, or large social media presenc" Thats why
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Subject: Re: Why does no one give a shit about Robert Card? Fri Jan 05, 2024 7:51 pm
the media only cares about shooters who are under the age of like 21. anything over they forget about in 3 days. I also think murder-suicide dwindles their chances of being as recognized. shooters that get arrested and have a trial get cared about a lot more imo.
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Subject: Re: Why does no one give a shit about Robert Card? Fri Jan 05, 2024 9:51 pm
its disappointing because robert card is one of the mass murderers ive personally found the most interesting. i wish the media gave more shits about him and he was talked about a lot more than just put in a record book after his body was found and basically left it at that. media and news coverage needs to be a LOT less selective when they only care about the archetype of perpetrators you'd expect them to be (i.e white male under the age of 21, targeted their school, butthurt that they are unpopular etc). id like to see those with unexpected statistics and identities be studied more than the columbine copycats.
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Subject: Re: Why does no one give a shit about Robert Card? Fri Jan 05, 2024 10:20 pm
caliburrie wrote:
media and news coverage needs to be a LOT less selective when they only care about the archetype of perpetrators you'd expect them to be (i.e white male under the age of 21, targeted their school, butthurt that they are unpopular etc). id like to see those with unexpected statistics and identities be studied more than the columbine copycats.
I completely agree. Someone was just mentioning Stephen Paddock on a thread about lesser discussed mass murderers, and I think thats bizarre because I've always been interested in that case because of how old Paddock was in contrast to most of the 25-ish shooters we see in media. There's countless other examples of shooters I've always thought were more interesting than the same unpopular 17-year-old Columbiner we get shooting up their school every month...
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Subject: Re: Why does no one give a shit about Robert Card? Sat Jan 06, 2024 9:43 am
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Subject: Re: Why does no one give a shit about Robert Card? Sat Jan 06, 2024 11:08 am
He wasn't a twink.
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Subject: Re: Why does no one give a shit about Robert Card? Sat Jan 06, 2024 11:13 am
ParanoidAndroid wrote:
He wasn't a twink.
lmfao real though
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Subject: Re: Why does no one give a shit about Robert Card? Mon Jan 08, 2024 6:10 pm
This incident is what made me realize that mass shootings have become a forced meme in the eyes of the public.
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Subject: Re: Why does no one give a shit about Robert Card? Mon Mar 04, 2024 9:25 pm
EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:
He gets about as much attention as Andrew Wanyama despite 19 people being dead and 13 injured by the end of his tomfoolery. I’m starting to think he actually is a false flag because the anomalous extent that no one cares about him, does not statistically correlate to what he did. There was a massive police search. It’s the deadliest in Maine, and he killed enough to be in the top ten mass shootings in the U.S. . He even killed himself in a relatively unique way. What, was his personality not cute or edgy enough? Remember this guy. No one even knows why he did it. He was just, like, suicidal or something. No matter what the deal is with him, I think more people should be reminded of his name and face so I’m gonna post this as a reminder of said things.
because he was schizo and the left hates addressing problems that dont fit there agenda, they want to ban all guns not prevent schizoids from getting guns or more mental health programs
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Subject: Re: Why does no one give a shit about Robert Card? Tue Mar 05, 2024 12:28 am
I’m commenting because I live right where this shooting took place. There’s a huge investigation going on and amidst that investigation, it looks as though the system certainly failed us. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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Subject: Re: Why does no one give a shit about Robert Card? Tue Mar 05, 2024 4:39 am
Not my circus, not my monkeys, and the clown wasn't particularly funny
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Subject: Re: Why does no one give a shit about Robert Card? Tue Mar 05, 2024 6:19 am
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Subject: Re: Why does no one give a shit about Robert Card? Tue Mar 05, 2024 11:07 am
Thanks, SpeciesTraitor! No, I was not aware of the 2020 Nova Scotia attack, thanks for bringing it to my attention! I will certainly look into it. As far as police/law enforcement incompetence, I feel it exists everywhere however this particular shooting was unique because he went from one location to another in record time so while the police were responding to the bowling alley, not 10 minutes from my home, he’s shooting up the restaurant/pool hall. As sick of an individual as he was, he clearly planned this out. Anyone in the area felt panicked when news broke because we didn’t know where he was and what would happen next, which caused the “shelter in place” for two days. As someone who has researched mass shootings since 2007, it was surreal to me that this was happening in my back yard.
As of right now, 4 months after the attacks, Schemengee’s will not be reopening however Just-in-Time bowling will be reopening and are completely renovating the entire inside. I was going to post pics of the renovation to give you an idea of the inside but my Facebook is not working. More to come!
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Subject: Re: Why does no one give a shit about Robert Card? Tue Mar 05, 2024 7:49 pm
Because we there is nothing interesting to know about him.
After all the mass shootings the US has seen, a guy like him is nothing new.
Even with a high kill count, people just, kind of forgot about him.
I bet if one day there's another person on this forum who kills again, we'd forget about that person in just a few day's.
That's just the way i see things.
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Subject: Re: Why does no one give a shit about Robert Card? Fri May 03, 2024 12:29 am
A shooting's death toll, by itself, does not determine how infamous a shooting is. From my observations, these are some of the other factors that make people more likely to remember a mass shooting:
• The shooting took place in a school with underage children(e.g., Sandy Hook, Uvalde, and Parkland are discussed more than Vegas and Pulse despite having less people killed) • The shooting was motivated by a relevant political ideology (e.g., Buffalo got way more attention than the Boulder grocery store shooting despite similar death toll/location; Audrey Hale is still continually brought up because of the transgender perp/Christian school aspect) • The shooter left behind an interesting online footprint documenting their mental state and planning(e.g., Elliot Rodger and Randy Stair are well-known because of this) • The shooting's location is remarkable(e.g., the Aurora shooting is prominent because of its location and made a lot of people afraid of movie theaters) • There is a unique aspect to the shooting that shifts the narrative away from the generic gun control/mental health debates(e.g., the Oxford shooter's parents being convicted of involuntary manslaughter; the tremendous failures of the Uvalde police)
The victims of the Lewiston shooting were almost all adults, except for a 14-year-old. Card was not motivated by a political ideology, but rather an unremarkable motive of psychosis/"hearing voices" and he did not document his delusions online as far as we know. A bowling alley is a rare shooting location, but apparently not scary enough for people to remember. Aside from two different locations being involved and the two-day police search, this was a pretty "generic" mass shooting. Unfortunately, 18 people dead is not enough on its own to be engrained into people's memory in a country where mass shootings are commonplace.
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