April Showers (2009)

I finally found a decent quality copy of it. I tried to upload it to Youtube today.. twice. But it was blocked worldwide upon both uploads. Even when I cut the beginning song out. :/ So, here's a link to download if anyone is interested in watching it.
April Showers (2009)

Here's the short description of it from IMDB and Wiki
"April Showers is a 2009 American independent drama film written and directed by Andrew Robinson. It is based on the Columbine High School shootings of which Robinson is a survivor."

"A look inside a tragedy through the eyes of a survivor. Based on actual events, April Showers is about picking up the pieces in the direct aftermath of school violence. Set in a middle class suburban neighborhood, April Showers focuses on the lives of a handful of teachers and students as they attempt to make sense of a world that has just been turned upside down by one of their own. With the community and an entire nation caught up in the 'story', the students of Jefferson High must turn to one another for answers. In the wake atrocity, the rifts caused by misinformation and a frenzied media prove difficult to overcome. Lost and lonely under the international spotlight, one young man navigates his way through his almost indiscernible home. From quaint suburban town to battlefield turned media circus, Jefferson High provides the backdrop for Sean's struggle to cope with the loss of his friend, April."

It's heavily based on the friendship between Rachel and Andrew.
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I'm sure there used to be a good copy on YouTube - I remember seeing this ages ago, maybe I bought a DVD of it or something. I seem to remember it was an ok movie.

Radioactive_Clothing wrote:

I'm sure there used to be a good copy on YouTube - I remember seeing this ages ago, maybe I bought a DVD of it or something. I seem to remember it was an ok movie.

Yeah, I think that's where I watched it the first time. Youtube is a mess lately. They're beyond strict. I still don't understand how a independent movie can't be uploaded, but other people still manage to upload popular tv shows that just aired, & recently released big-name movies. It took me 3 tries to upload that 13 Families documentary a few months ago before the 'Orchard Music' Copyright didn't catch it when it uploaded. Lol.

It was on Netflix, IDK if it is still on there

I'd like to ask paradisedreams and Juicy Jazzy if they ever put it together that Rachel was seriously crushing on Andrew before her death or is it just me?

PaintItBlack wrote:

I'd like to ask paradisedreams and Juicy Jazzy if they ever put it together that Rachel was seriously crushing on Andrew before her death or is it just me?

Put forward your argument. I don't know much about Andrew, but he was big in the drama group so it's entirely possible. A few articles that were making the rounds after Columbine implied that Rachel was in an on again, off again relationship with a boy at her Subway called Rob Salyer. And of course she went to prom with Nick Baumgart, so she might have crushed over him too.

Whos Andrew?

Juicy Jazzy wrote:

PaintItBlack wrote:

I'd like to ask paradisedreams and Juicy Jazzy if they ever put it together that Rachel was seriously crushing on Andrew before her death or is it just me?

Put forward your argument. I don't know much about Andrew, but he was big in the drama group so it's entirely possible. A few articles that were making the rounds after Columbine implied that Rachel was in an on again, off again relationship with a boy at her Subway called Rob Salyer. And of course she went to prom with Nick Baumgart, so she might have crushed over him too.

Alright. As you know in April Showers, the lead character and April have feelings for each other.
In the diaries of Rachel Scott book towards the end when "Rachel" is talking about feeling out of sorts lately, it says "I know that I'm seriously in love with a guy who is seriously in love with one of my best friends." Rachel met Andrew's girlfriend Val while rehearsing for the Smoke play and they became fast friends.

I put those two things together and came to that conclusion. I could be wrong though as there is no certain proof.

browneyes11 wrote:

Whos Andrew?

Andrew is Andrew Robinson. He was a good friend of Rachel's and wrote the Smoke in the Room play.
He is a professional filmmaker now and wrote and directed the April Showers film.

PaintItBlack wrote:

Alright. As you know in April Showers, the lead character and April have feelings for each other. In the diaries of Rachel Scott book towards the end when "Rachel" is talking about feeling out of sorts lately, it says "I know that I'm seriously in love with a  guy who is seriously in love with one of my best friends." Rachel met Andrew's girlfriend Val while rehearsing for the Smoke play and they became fast friends.

I put those two things together and came to that conclusion. I could be wrong though as there is no certain proof.

Good theory, from that it could have very well been Andrew. Though I'm not too sure how accurate that book was, as it was more a reenactment and not a word for word copy of her diary.

PaintItBlack wrote:

Juicy Jazzy wrote:

PaintItBlack wrote:

I'd like to ask paradisedreams and Juicy Jazzy if they ever put it together that Rachel was seriously crushing on Andrew before her death or is it just me?

Put forward your argument. I don't know much about Andrew, but he was big in the drama group so it's entirely possible. A few articles that were making the rounds after Columbine implied that Rachel was in an on again, off again relationship with a boy at her Subway called Rob Salyer. And of course she went to prom with Nick Baumgart, so she might have crushed over him too.

Alright. As you know in April Showers, the lead character and April have feelings for each other.
In the diaries of Rachel Scott book towards the end when "Rachel" is talking about feeling out of sorts lately, it says "I know that I'm seriously in love with a  guy who is seriously in love with one of my best friends." Rachel met Andrew's girlfriend Val while rehearsing for the Smoke play and they became fast friends.

I put those two things together and came to that conclusion. I could be wrong though as there is no certain proof.

That's a pretty good theory. I never really thought about it having that much truth, until I recently watched it a few days ago. Rachel's definitely the victim that has been put in the most 'love triangles'. Do you have anything to add to the Andrew and Val relationship? I don't think i've ever seen or read anything on that.

Juicy Jazzy wrote:

PaintItBlack wrote:

Alright. As you know in April Showers, the lead character and April have feelings for each other. In the diaries of Rachel Scott book towards the end when "Rachel" is talking about feeling out of sorts lately, it says "I know that I'm seriously in love with a  guy who is seriously in love with one of my best friends." Rachel met Andrew's girlfriend Val while rehearsing for the Smoke play and they became fast friends.

I put those two things together and came to that conclusion. I could be wrong though as there is no certain proof.

Good theory, from that it could have very well been Andrew. Though I'm not too sure how accurate that book was, as it was more a reenactment and not a word for word copy of her diary.

Since her family was directly involved with the writing of the book, I assumed that all of it was based on real incidents from Rachel's life as well as her writings but its possible something could have been dramatized.

paradisedreams wrote:

PaintItBlack wrote:

Juicy Jazzy wrote:

PaintItBlack wrote:

I'd like to ask paradisedreams and Juicy Jazzy if they ever put it together that Rachel was seriously crushing on Andrew before her death or is it just me?

Put forward your argument. I don't know much about Andrew, but he was big in the drama group so it's entirely possible. A few articles that were making the rounds after Columbine implied that Rachel was in an on again, off again relationship with a boy at her Subway called Rob Salyer. And of course she went to prom with Nick Baumgart, so she might have crushed over him too.

Alright. As you know in April Showers, the lead character and April have feelings for each other.
In the diaries of Rachel Scott book towards the end when "Rachel" is talking about feeling out of sorts lately, it says "I know that I'm seriously in love with a  guy who is seriously in love with one of my best friends." Rachel met Andrew's girlfriend Val while rehearsing for the Smoke play and they became fast friends.

I put those two things together and came to that conclusion. I could be wrong though as there is no certain proof.

That's a pretty good theory. I never really thought about it having that much truth, until I recently watched it a few days ago. Rachel's definitely the victim that has been put in the most 'love triangles'. Do you have anything to add to the Andrew and Val relationship? I don't think i've ever seen or read anything on that.

No, I don't.
The only thing I know is that they eventually broke up sometime after the shooting because she married a guy with a different last name years ago.

PaintItBlack wrote:

paradisedreams wrote:

PaintItBlack wrote:

Juicy Jazzy wrote:

PaintItBlack wrote:

I'd like to ask paradisedreams and Juicy Jazzy if they ever put it together that Rachel was seriously crushing on Andrew before her death or is it just me?

Put forward your argument. I don't know much about Andrew, but he was big in the drama group so it's entirely possible. A few articles that were making the rounds after Columbine implied that Rachel was in an on again, off again relationship with a boy at her Subway called Rob Salyer. And of course she went to prom with Nick Baumgart, so she might have crushed over him too.

Alright. As you know in April Showers, the lead character and April have feelings for each other.
In the diaries of Rachel Scott book towards the end when "Rachel" is talking about feeling out of sorts lately, it says "I know that I'm seriously in love with a  guy who is seriously in love with one of my best friends." Rachel met Andrew's girlfriend Val while rehearsing for the Smoke play and they became fast friends.

I put those two things together and came to that conclusion. I could be wrong though as there is no certain proof.

That's a pretty good theory. I never really thought about it having that much truth, until I recently watched it a few days ago. Rachel's definitely the victim that has been put in the most 'love triangles'. Do you have anything to add to the Andrew and Val relationship? I don't think i've ever seen or read anything on that.

No, I don't.
The only thing I know is that they eventually broke up sometime after the shooting because she married a guy with a different last name years ago.

Oh. Hmm. Well, then I would say your theory still could hold a lot of truth. Andrew and Rachel were obviously close, probably even months before the play. And to have a 'based on a true story' movie with that being the major plot line. This one is not as far fetched as the others. ;)

Rachel was probably a typical teen girl who had a crush on several guys. Andrew was likely one of them. Same with Nick Baumgart, my evidence for that is that she quit smoking because he asked her to.

I just did a little bit google.

here are andrew´s memories about columbine (if someone is interested in it)

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em81 wrote:

I just did a little bit google.

here are andrew´s memories about columbine (if someone is interested in it)

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Ah, thanks.

Kinda OT. But I cursed myself when I said youtube is a mess lately. My account was just terminated about 2 hours ago. Lol. Luckily I still have everything I uploaded on there. But damn, I don't get it. Idk if someone reported me? Or they just decided to do a sweep. None of the videos I had on there were flagged for copyright when I uploaded them a few months ago. Of course it's not really a big deal, but it's discouraging in a way. I was just trying to share Columbine related things with the people, man.

paradisedreams wrote:

Kinda OT. But I cursed myself when I said youtube is a mess lately. My account was just terminated about 2 hours ago. Lol. Luckily I still have everything I uploaded on there. But damn, I don't get it. Idk if someone reported me? Or they just decided to do a sweep. None of the videos I had on there were flagged for copyright when I uploaded them a few months ago. Of course it's not really a big deal, but it's discouraging in a way. I was just trying to share Columbine related things with the people, man.  

I'm on my fourth "mainstream" channel. (By "mainstream," I mean that I don't post any of that weird Columbine stuff that freaks folks out. )

My first mainstream channel had over 3,500 clips on it.

LPorter101 wrote:

paradisedreams wrote:

Kinda OT. But I cursed myself when I said youtube is a mess lately. My account was just terminated about 2 hours ago. Lol. Luckily I still have everything I uploaded on there. But damn, I don't get it. Idk if someone reported me? Or they just decided to do a sweep. None of the videos I had on there were flagged for copyright when I uploaded them a few months ago. Of course it's not really a big deal, but it's discouraging in a way. I was just trying to share Columbine related things with the people, man.  

I'm on my fourth "mainstream" channel. (By "mainstream," I mean that I don't post any of that weird Columbine stuff that freaks folks out. )

My first mainstream channel had over 3,500 clips on it.

Wow. :/ I wonder if it's the content itself? Even if it's not gory at all. Idk. But yes, let's terminate those accounts and let everyone else upload these mainstream tv shows that just aired. And torrented movies.

paradisedreams wrote:

Kinda OT. But I cursed myself when I said youtube is a mess lately. My account was just terminated about 2 hours ago. Lol. Luckily I still have everything I uploaded on there. But damn, I don't get it. Idk if someone reported me? Or they just decided to do a sweep. None of the videos I had on there were flagged for copyright when I uploaded them a few months ago. Of course it's not really a big deal, but it's discouraging in a way. I was just trying to share Columbine related things with the people, man.  

that's because of Daniel Rohrbough's father, he had complained to YouTube and since then they take down anything to do with Eric and Dylan, unless it's a documentary. If someone uploads a tribute video to a serial killer/rapist/pedophile/animal abuser they will not be banned or have the video taken down though, I was talking about this in another thread, it's insane.

Sad to hear about you taken off YT. Happened to a few people I know, not to me thankfully.

YT used to take everything CHS related down, other than documentaries and obvious tributes to victims (heck, even some of the latter went down) shortly after the Jokela shooting.

I wasn't sure if YT became lax on this recently, but it seems not.

On the other hand, this has been online for 9 months now:

And this:


And some other stuff. But columbine space monkeys seems to have moved to dailymotion and tumblr for some reason.

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I remember around this time in 2008, anything to do with Columbine, even documentaries were getting taken down and the accounts were terminated without any warning. It does seem like they have calmed down a bit though I agree.

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I remember around this time in 2008, anything to do with Columbine, even documentaries were getting taken down and the accounts were terminated without any warning. It does seem like they have calmed down a bit though I agree.

Auvinen shooting at Jokela, I remember it quite well. Nothing like making a motion picture about a school shooting and in the middle of (pardon the pun) shooting a scene someone runs in and says there's a school shooting on the news going on.

Prolly one of the weirdest twists of events I witnessed.

Oh and I think it was not this time but in Novemeber.

my friend from Sweden (Osten22 on YouTube) use to argue with NaturalSelector89, and Osten had wrote a message on his profile telling me that this guy was out of his mind, NS89 then replied to that message saying he had a 'genius and self aware mind', he then uploaded a View to Kill - Max Zorrin tribute video because he disliked Osten's one so much. Couple months later Osten sent me a e-mail saying "NaturalSelector89 is the one who killed those people!" I didn't have TV access at the time so I had no idea, but I googled it and saw some guy in Finland had shot up his school and then shot himself, but was still alive in hospital at that point in time, I didn't think it was the same person as that guy on YouTube until a couple of news reports later when they showed his stray bullet video, later AmazingAtheist made his video about him.

So NS89 replying to Osten's comment which was aimed at me is my closest connection to him.

I think I left some comment (I don't remember if it was to one of his videos or his main profile) back in Summer 2007. He never replied to that, so yeah. 2007 is when I started posting to the old forums, so I was in-touch with both V-Tech and Jokela when they occured.

I remember AmazingAtheist too, as if it was yesterday. Wow, is gonna be 8 years now. I'm getting old like hell.

Side note: Remember kiddies, life is short and god is mad.