Shooting in oregon college Break news!!!!

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Fifteen dead so far

Just came across this, wow.

Now they're saying 13 dead, 20 hurt. Shooter is dead.

Local news repeatedly refers to Columbine, claiming ED were bullied, it kind of annoys me

henkdutank wrote:

Local news repeatedly refers to Columbine, claiming ED were bullied, it kind of annoys me  

Eric and Dylan were bullied, at least somewhat. It may or may not have driven them to kill, but it did add to their feelings of alienation from the bright shining Abercrombie-wearing jock-sniffing atmosphere at Columbine.

Do remember Eliot Rodger? When I saw those you tube tapes he did. The whole thing stank of columbine inspired basement tapes.

So the shooter was a 20-year-old guy. He shot at the cops and they killed him - or so they say.

At the moment there's dramatically different news reports out there, but I guess that's expected In these types of situations.

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At least 13 people are dead after a shooting at a college in the US state of Oregon, says a local official

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the victims included a female shot in the chest.

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He confirmed a suspect was in custody, though it is unclear if the person detained is a student.

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I believe this article is a couple of hours old though.

Jesus Christ America, get your shit together. Something has got to change?

LPorter101 wrote:

So the shooter was a 20-year-old guy. He shot at the cops and they killed him - or so they say.

I just read something on CNN which pretty much says the same thing, apparently he had 4 guns which were recovered on scene.

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According to the source close to the investigation, authorities are looking at social media posts between a person they believe may have been the shooter, and others.

The conversation happened Wednesday night on 4chan.

In it, the writer talks about planning to carry out a shooting. Others egg him on, giving him suggestions on how to do it, and the type of weapons to use.

The responses are mixed -- with some users characterizing the would-be gunman as a pathetic loser. Others called him a twisted hero.

In the posts, there is a reference to the UC Santa Barbara shooter, who wrote a manifesto and videoed himself before opening fire a year ago.

"This is the only time I'll ever be in the news. I'm so insignificant," reads an apparent post by the would-be Oregon gunman.

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EDIT: There's a couple of pictures floating around the net of the alleged shooter and his 4chan posts.

Juicy Jazzy wrote:

Jesus Christ America, get your shit together. Something has got to change?

There are over seven billion folks living in the world today ... we USers are doing our bit to keep our numbers down.

Last I heard, the news drones were saying that there might be as few as seven and as many as 17 dead.

Keep in mind that, at this time on 4/20, the Jeffco boys were telling everyone that the CHS death toll was 25.

LPorter101 wrote:

Last I heard, the news drones were saying that there might be as few as seven and as many as 17 dead.

Keep in mind that, at this time on 4/20, the Jeffco boys were telling everyone that the CHS death toll was 25.

Yeah, we won't have the real numbers for at least a day, maybe even a few days. And even then, more people could die in the hospital. I think it's interesting that his identity hasn't been revealed yet. It hasn't even been revealed whether he was a student or not. Although I'm sure that will happen in the next day or so.

I'm sure the media is competing to produce the scariest story to get ad views and page clicks.

I'm sure fox news is swiftly coming up with reasons why gun control should be lessened even more because of things like this. They'll probably have some airhead on there saying all college students should have guns now. Then they'll try to blame it all on mental illness while never suggesting mental health treatment reform because they don't actually care about mental illness. Oh, and they'll have at least one person claiming this is a false flag. I can already see the headlines: "BREAKING-OBAMA AND HIS CRONIES FINAL ATTEMPT TO TAKE AWAY YOUR GUNS: FIND OUT MORE ABOUT THE OREGON COLLEGE FALSE FLAG AT 10!"

oh, another thing. I've heard a few reports that he asked people what their religions are. Whether this is true or not, fox will jump all over this in order to further their "War on Christianity" agenda.

I saw saddened to hear this but not shocked. Mass shootings have become a way of life in the Western world and Middle east.

Also, it is said he asked if the kids if they were Christians, if they said yes, he shot them in the head, if they said no or didn't answer he shot them in the leg

Istayaway1031 wrote:

Also, it is said he asked if the kids if they were Christians, if they said yes, he shot them in the head, if they said no or didn't answer he shot them in the leg

"Do you believe in God?"

"Yes."

"Which one?"

"Uh ... Allah?"

"Okay, you're cool."

RIP to all those that were killed. Thoughts are with their families, friends and with the injured. The bad thing is, another mass shooting doesn't really surprise me. I was just like "oh, another mass shooting? Where at this time?"

They also keep talking about all the school shootings, and keep referring to Columbine and Virginia Tech the most.

I come back from a happy holiday to hear this, very sad.

*I removed the latter section due to my frustration at the time,  and I do not condone murder in any way, I hope that clears things up sorry.

Falcolus wrote:

I come back from a happy holiday to hear this.

Those little fuckers on 4Chan should get 100 years hard labour, or I would be happy to give them a lethal needle.

Cmon dude,I browse 4chan almost daily and I can assure you it wasnt it fault.People use dark humor there everytime,and hell,in a place with
a lot of users once in a time something weird will come out.Its like saying AOL made E&D do what they did.

His name is (or was, I should say) Chris Mercer Harper. He was 26 years old.

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"The 142nd shooting since Sandy Hook". Less than 3 years ago. Damn.

boringguy wrote:

Oh, and they'll have at least one person claiming this is a false flag. I can already see the headlines: "BREAKING-OBAMA AND HIS CRONIES FINAL ATTEMPT TO TAKE AWAY YOUR GUNS: FIND OUT MORE ABOUT THE OREGON COLLEGE FALSE FLAG AT 10!"

oh, another thing. I've heard a few reports that he asked people what their religions are. Whether this is true or not, fox will jump all over this in order to further their "War on Christianity" agenda.

Would be typicall US bullshit. I wouldn't be the elast surprised if people actually do come up with this nonsense. Gioven he was said to be 26 years old, I hope we won't have music and videogames blamed this time.

Really seems to be the regular gauntlet of easy answers:
- we-need-more-gun-control
- no-we-do-not-was-false-flag
- its-all-about-religion-in-schools-and-atheistic-attack-on-religion
- bullying-and-alienation
- antidepressants
- where-were-the-parents
- violence-in-games-movies-forums
- islam-immigrants-religion-attacked-again

I'm not saying one of these can't really be true in a given case. Its just that people always "already have" their answer before even any real information about the shooter comes up.


Also local Polish TV news bricks-in-the-wall said today that 11 people died, including the shooter. The gunman died after being shot by cops. So far it seems the cops did their homework, I;'l wait with the praises once I learn how much time it took them to kill him though.



On an entirely creepy note - I wonder if he had an account on the forums. Let's make a roll-call check who's missing [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

The latest is, his english decent and had an idolization with the group IRA?

For any lucky girl out there, I found his dating profile

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May be a prank, the dating profile I mean. People were known to create fake fb profiles and whatnot after such stuff

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I understand that you are angered by this event and if it turns out that people on 4chan were told of this and egged him on and didn't report it,I think all those people should face criminal charges but you aren't serious about wanting them to get the death penalty are you?

I feel so sorry for the family and friends of the victims and the shooter. They have just started on an agonizing journey that will never fully end.

PaintItBlack wrote:

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I understand that you are angered by this event and if it turns out that people on 4chan were told of this and egged on him and didn't report it. I think all those people should face criminal charges but you aren't serious about wanting them to get the death penalty are you?

I edited my post, I think criminal charges is definitely needed if it turns out to be true.

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It's good of you to edit your posts.
We all think and say things out of anger that we don't mean.

Im not sure if I buy the statement that he asked people if they were christian or not and shot them in the leg if they said no and killed them if they said yes. You would think that after a couple of people died they would realize he was killing anyone who said yes and they would tell him no. And I know very few people who say they would die for their faith, especially college students. But who am I to know how someone would react in a situation like that. That's something no one can know until its happening to them.

If other students come out and confirm that story, I will reconsider it. But for now, it just doesn't seem plausible.

It would be more believeable if she said he made them all answer at once, and then either spared or killed them based on their answers.

But it's still very soon, and I don't want to accuse anyone of making up stories. More information and victim statements should be released in the coming weeks.

I wa svery skeptical at first of the god questions, but am far less know as it seems numerous eye-witnessess corroborate it.

Of course, its still early and it may all turn out to be hogwash, but I'm keeping all options open so to speak.

LPorter101 wrote:

henkdutank wrote:

Local news repeatedly refers to Columbine, claiming ED were bullied, it kind of annoys me  

Eric and Dylan were bullied, at least somewhat. It may or may not have driven them to kill, but it did add to their feelings of alienation from the bright shining Abercrombie-wearing jock-sniffing atmosphere at Columbine.

It obviously didn't drive them to murder. They killed the same underclassmen they bullied themselves.

Not to mention Dylan went out of his way to bully special needs children.

Well, you prolly know my opinion:
Bullying might have had some impact on them in the sense that it made them think even less about people around them and might have had some role in the fact that they chose to attack the school and not some other similar target (mall etc).

But in the end, I don't think bullying was a major factor. Its not corroborated by their writings. Its not relaly corroborated by their plans - planning to kill everyone in the cafeteria, not just shoot several jocks. "Most deaths in US history".

I think the fact that they made the shooting already after prom, with just a few weeks to go is imho one of the most vivid pieces of evidence that bullying was not on their minds. These were not kids who were aching to get away out of CHS, they were aching to stay and get the shooting in time before HS ends.

Juicy Jazzy wrote:

Jesus Christ America, get your shit together. Something has got to change?

legalize escorts / brothels

almost all school shooters are virgins and nerdy give them free poontang and free mental health stuff without any societal reprecussions or whatever that word is that guy the baldo guy also played minecraft lol

Yes legalize brothels and have the goverment give financial compensation to girls in college willing to work there. Part time. It will be awesome but god damn christians and ridiculous retarded belief will not allow it.

School shootings are becoming standart news in the us . I just want to say that no one , at least so far , have reached the kind of idolation eric and dylan received and will continue to receive , because there is a lot of morbid chicks around , who are fascinated with death . In the past they didnt have a proper definition but today they are called emos . But emos have other properties besides the conotation with death .

ChoSeungHui wrote:

lol , standart us new . I only watched the first 26 seconds of the video .

Statement provided to CNN by Umpqua Community College shooting survivor Mathew Downing:

Thursday started out as any other day would’ve. I got to school on time, sat down and pulled out the paper to turn it. It was about 30 or 40 minutes into the class when I heard a couple of shots fired, I couldn’t hear anything when he had walked in because my ears were ringing so badly. When I saw the gun when he walked in the first thought in my head was that this couldn’t be real. The first thing I could hear was him telling everybody to get onto the ground. I listened and figured that if I did so throughout I wouldn’t be harmed. He then told everybody to get into the center of the room and be quiet. He then put his backpack on the front desk and pulled out an envelope and said that there is a flash drive in this and whoever survives this should give it to the police.

He looked directly at me and said, “Hey, kid with the glasses, you are the lucky one. I will not shoot you if you give this to the cops.” I stood up and he pointed the gun at me, and this is the moment I thought I was going to die. He paused for a second and then handed the envelope to me and said to sit in the very back seat and face him. I then did so as he fired a couple of shots into the crowd of students in the center. The shooter then asked one of the other students to stand up, and when he did asked him if he was religious. The student said he was Christian and was shot. He then had another student stand up and asked him the same. When he answered “Catholic,” the shooter then asked if he believed in the afterlife. The student said, “I don’t know,” and the shooter thanked him for standing up for his beliefs and shot him. One of the girls that was lying near the front of the class then said that she was sorry for whatever happened to him and for whatever she had done wrong. The shooter then said that he bets she was and shot her. At that point he was just firing on people who were just lying there and stopped when he heard a woman outside and shot out the window by the door. That is when he looked out the door and saw a man standing outside. The man asked him not to shoot him because it’s his son’s birthday. The shooter then fired multiple shots out of the door and shut it.

When he looked back in, he looked at everybody and said that he was glad there where some people alive. The shooter then asked a student in the back of the class if she would stand up, and she said that her legs wouldn’t move because she was in too much pain. He seemed to have lost interest and pointed his gun to another student in the back and told her to stand up. She got scared and picked up a desk to defend herself and he shot through it anyway and hit her in the leg. At that point the police had shown up and were yelling from outside, which alerted the shooter, and he looked outside then fired some shots. As he was doing this he was reloading his two handguns with ammunition in his backpack. He never left the class, but only leaned about half of his torso out of the classroom to fire on the police. The shooter leaned out of the classroom about two times and was shot by one of the officers, then retreated into the class. When this happened, he laid down on the ground and shot himself in the head.

sororityalpha wrote:

Statement provided to CNN by Umpqua Community College shooting survivor Mathew Downing:

Thursday started out as any other day would’ve. I got to school on time, sat down and pulled out the paper to turn it. It was about 30 or 40 minutes into the class when I heard a couple of shots fired, I couldn’t hear anything when he had walked in because my ears were ringing so badly. When I saw the gun when he walked in the first thought in my head was that this couldn’t be real. The first thing I could hear was him telling everybody to get onto the ground. I listened and figured that if I did so throughout I wouldn’t be harmed. He then told everybody to get into the center of the room and be quiet. He then put his backpack on the front desk and pulled out an envelope and said that there is a flash drive in this and whoever survives this should give it to the police.

He looked directly at me and said, “Hey, kid with the glasses, you are the lucky one. I will not shoot you if you give this to the cops.” I stood up and he pointed the gun at me, and this is the moment I thought I was going to die. He paused for a second and then handed the envelope to me and said to sit in the very back seat and face him. I then did so as he fired a couple of shots into the crowd of students in the center. The shooter then asked one of the other students to stand up, and when he did asked him if he was religious. The student said he was Christian and was shot. He then had another student stand up and asked him the same. When he answered “Catholic,” the shooter then asked if he believed in the afterlife. The student said, “I don’t know,” and the shooter thanked him for standing up for his beliefs and shot him. One of the girls that was lying near the front of the class then said that she was sorry for whatever happened to him and for whatever she had done wrong. The shooter then said that he bets she was and shot her. At that point he was just firing on people who were just lying there and stopped when he heard a woman outside and shot out the window by the door. That is when he looked out the door and saw a man standing outside. The man asked him not to shoot him because it’s his son’s birthday. The shooter then fired multiple shots out of the door and shut it.

When he looked back in, he looked at everybody and said that he was glad there where some people alive. The shooter then asked a student in the back of the class if she would stand up, and she said that her legs wouldn’t move because she was in too much pain. He seemed to have lost interest and pointed his gun to another student in the back and told her to stand up. She got scared and picked up a desk to defend herself and he shot through it anyway and hit her in the leg. At that point the police had shown up and were yelling from outside, which alerted the shooter, and he looked outside then fired some shots. As he was doing this he was reloading his two handguns with ammunition in his backpack. He never left the class, but only leaned about half of his torso out of the classroom to fire on the police. The shooter leaned out of the classroom about two times and was shot by one of the officers, then retreated into the class. When this happened, he laid down on the ground and shot himself in the head.

thanks for the info.

So its confirmed he shot kids who said they were religious, but its not true that he spared thise who said otherwise or failed to say anything else. For all we know he could have shot at someone even if said person said he's an atheist.
Well, there's also proof that the quick arrival of police helped to mitigate the effects of the shooting and lower the bodycount.