Audio link: Sue Klebold NPR interview

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Much more informative than the Diane Sawyer interview IMO. Over 43 minutes long.

Wow, I didn't realize she was going to do so many interviews. Not finished with this one but it's interesting to hear her talk about the Basement Tapes.

Wow, her reason for not wanting the tapes released is actually compelling.

She talks briefly about the Basement Tapes in her interview with Dr. Oz too. While there wasn't any new information in her interview with him, I did appreciate the editing much more than the 20/20 editing, and his interview style was less offensive as well.

Does anyone have the new picture of Dylan from the Oz interview where he's lying on his back reading a book? If anyone has it, please post it here. Thank you.

He was so cute.

Sorry, but I still her see in denial. She actually believes in that rubbish Cullen trash that Eric was a psychopath, and Dylan was just depressed, and fed off each other. She completely ignores facts from Dylan's own journal that he was having homicidal thoughts as far as back '97, and Eric wasn't even his first choice. It was Zack, or even Nate (more likely Zack imo).

It's still just your opinion lol regarding the non-psychopath stance. She comes off as wise, intelligent, open minded. She clearly sated she was in denial at first but now has fully accepted her son was a murderer who killed innocent people. If anything, she has strengthen her stance as somebody who really understands the impact of the entire event. She doesn't act like somebody who is making excuses rather she comes off as somebody who probably doesn't invest or care too much for Eric because really, there's no need. She said there were no alarm bells that rang other than the van break in that would cause life and death thoughts so this just shows how great Eric and her son really were at hiding things.

I just think this jew thing is really telling, in the basement tapes. Not only does Brooks Brown's mom tell us the same exact scenario but now Sue Klebold. Where Eric once finding out Dylan has some jewish in him, flips a switch and makes Dylan back off a little to the point he thinks Eric is going to flip on him really puts into perspective how psycho Eric really was.

As far as Sue Klebold goes, the guilt had to be like no other, looking back at everything she ever thought she did wrong like putting just sprinkles on Dylan's cake when he turned 3 and his brothers had icing and the whole 9. That's intense. She seems transparent and honest in this interview.

Can't get any more transparent than this.

Sane One wrote:

Where Eric once finding out Dylan has some jewish in him, flips a switch and makes Dylan back off a little to the point he thinks Eric is going to flip on him really puts into perspective how psycho Eric really was.

Eric looking over at Dylan, alarmed to find out he is Jewish, THIS is proof he's a psychopath? Are you kidding me? Yet Dylan, who ran around Columbine like a madman, screaming and laughing and mocking everyone he is shot, isn't a psychopath?

Judy Brown and Sue BOTH said that they 'thought', not that he did, but that they 'thought' that Eric was going to 'flip out' but he didn't. Instead he said 'Man, that's too bad'. HOW is this proof he is a psychopath?

Sometimes I get the feeling a lot of people are in as much denial as Cullen and Dylan's mother is. Dylan was not a depressed little follower. I realize this gets overlooked because of drawings of hearts, talks of suicide and Dylan letting 2 kids go. He didn't let them go out of generosity. He let them go because he was playing God and wanted to decide who lived and died.

It's neat to be able to nitpick little situations and make an entire opinion based on that one little bit of information, but when you put this together as a whole, when you look at the big picture, you will see that Dylan was the reason this idea even came about to begin with and that Eric followed Dylan's lead (just like he followed everything else Dylan did). An idea Dylan came up with years beforehand. I have no idea why people constantly overlook that. And it bothers me more than anything else about this entire thing.

Just the thought of him flipping on his best friend because he found out he was part Jew is enough evidence for me to side with the psychopath theory. Eric wanted to take out everybody INCLUDING his own friends and associates  "they can have my computer or belongings in my room if they survive".

How are these NOT examples the kid was seriously whacked? If you don't want to use the term psychopath, that's fine but the apple doesn't fall to far from the tree with words such as insane or crazy or delusional.

Just the way Dylan carries himself in the videos we've seen, he really comes off as somebody who poses no leadership qualities at all. Stumbles with his words time and time again. Looks for guidance. Looks for help, time and time again.

Dylan letting go Evan Todd and John Savage is just telling to me. It shows there was some care even during this horrible tragedy which makes his role in this even more complex. I'm under the belief Eric didn't kill more ONLY because he was running out of steam. He was disorientated from his broken nose and couldn't see straight. Firing a shotgun for 20 minutes especially with his type of body takes it toll.

Eric would have blown Brook's head off if he met him 5 minutes later and came across him somewhere else. Just my opinion but a reasonable one.

Sane One wrote:

Dylan letting go Evan Todd and John Savage is just telling to me. It shows there was some care even during this horrible tragedy which makes his role in this even more complex. I'm under the belief Eric didn't kill more ONLY because he was running out of steam. He was disorientated from his broken nose and couldn't see straight. Firing a shotgun for 20 minutes especially with his type of body takes it toll.

Eric would have blown Brook's head off if he met him 5 minutes later and came across him somewhere else. Just my opinion but a reasonable one.

Dylan had interaction with Evan Todd and John Savage prior to the event - it's likely more difficult to kill people you know because they seem, in some odd way, more human to you. Wasn't it Eric who let go the girl who said she was engaged etc.? She humanized herself by doing so. I believe Eric would have let people he knew go as well.

You might be right that Eric would have killed more had he not broken his nose, but Dylan more than likely would have continued killing as well.

Sane One wrote:

Dylan letting go Evan Todd and John Savage is just telling to me.

Then technically, you can say that Eric let John Savage go too. Considering it was Eric (not Dylan) who approached Savage first, asking him to identity himself. And then, Eric had a second chance to shoot Savage as he was running away. He could have shot him in the back, but he didn't. So how is Dylan the only one credited for letting John Savage go?

You're right Jenn, Eric let Evan go too.

I just wish the Harris's would respond or speak up about everything especially after this. If staying quiet is the way to go even after this, even after 17 years then I respect that but it doesn't help detractors of the psychopath stance.

Give us something. Go against Cullen, go against what Sue put in her book and says. You're his flesh and blood, you raised the kid for 18 years.

Maybe they just don't have the energy to take part in these discussions or to defend their son. I can't blame them but it would refreshing to hear something before they're gone.

I Have SERIOUS doubts that Eric and Dylan were good friends for over 5 years before they died and Eric was at Dylan's house several times and he had NO idea in all those years that Dylan was Jewish? Dylan even looks Jewish!  That the Klebolds celebrated Jewish holidays never ever came up, even once?
That doesn't sound plausible to me.
I think Eric was saying I'm sorry Man" to Dylan over the fact that Dylan was being forced by his family to celebrate and participate in Passover, something he plainly did not want to do.
I need more proof to believe that Eric had no idea that Dylan was Jewish. Think  about it. How can you be close friends with someone for 5 years and not know something so basic?

I'm not sure how to quote on mobile, but Sane One, I can see Eric's parents not wanting to fight the label he's been given as wanting to put this behind them and also the consequences for going against what people believe to be fact. The way people talk about Eric being a psycho and Dylan being the shy follower, I think his parents could easily be attacked as being in denial, wrong, disrespectful and so forth. I'd love to hear from his parents, but I totally understand why they rather keep private for many reasons.