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Subject: Dendermonde Nursery mass stabbing Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:58 am
And you thought Lanza was bad.....
"Kim de Gelder , a 20-year-old Belgian from Sinaai, entered the Fabeltjesland nursery through an unlocked side-door, claiming that he had a question to ask. He then entered one of the rooms and began attacking small children before moving to another room.[2] The man was reported to be wearing black-and-white makeup with his hair vividly colored red, similar to that of the Joker from the Batman films (who, however, has green hair and white and red facial features).[4] De Gelder's attorney, Jaak Haentjens, later formally denied any link to "the Joker", attributing the claims of face paint to De Gelder's pale skin.[5] De Gelder was, in the eyes of his friends and colleagues, a silent boy, who never said anything.[6]
A total of eighteen infants under the age of three and six adults were in the nursery at the time of the attack.[2][7] Two infants and one adult were killed;[2][8] six children, all between one and three years old, were seriously injured; another four suffered minor injuries; and nine escaped unscathed.[9] The alleged perpetrator left the scene on his bike.
Victims[edit] Leon Garcia-Mannaert, a eight-month-old boy, Corneel Vermeir, a nine-month-old boy, Marita Blindeman, a 54-year-old child minder.[10] Initial reports on Belgian television suggested that five people had been killed and twenty others had been injured,[11] with government officials only confirming the death of one adult and one child.[12] This number was later increased, as another infant had died from the injuries he had sustained. It has also been reported that some of the surviving children have needed plastic surgery due to serious mutilations.[citation needed]"
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Subject: Re: Dendermonde Nursery mass stabbing Thu Aug 10, 2017 7:27 am
STK wrote:
And you thought Lanza was bad.....
"Kim de Gelder , a 20-year-old Belgian from Sinaai, entered the Fabeltjesland nursery through an unlocked side-door, claiming that he had a question to ask. He then entered one of the rooms and began attacking small children before moving to another room.[2] The man was reported to be wearing black-and-white makeup with his hair vividly colored red, similar to that of the Joker from the Batman films (who, however, has green hair and white and red facial features).[4] De Gelder's attorney, Jaak Haentjens, later formally denied any link to "the Joker", attributing the claims of face paint to De Gelder's pale skin.[5] De Gelder was, in the eyes of his friends and colleagues, a silent boy, who never said anything.[6]
A total of eighteen infants under the age of three and six adults were in the nursery at the time of the attack.[2][7] Two infants and one adult were killed;[2][8] six children, all between one and three years old, were seriously injured; another four suffered minor injuries; and nine escaped unscathed.[9] The alleged perpetrator left the scene on his bike.
Victims[edit] Leon Garcia-Mannaert, a eight-month-old boy, Corneel Vermeir, a nine-month-old boy, Marita Blindeman, a 54-year-old child minder.[10] Initial reports on Belgian television suggested that five people had been killed and twenty others had been injured,[11] with government officials only confirming the death of one adult and one child.[12] This number was later increased, as another infant had died from the injuries he had sustained. It has also been reported that some of the surviving children have needed plastic surgery due to serious mutilations.[citation needed]"
haha its a strange coincidence i was actually gonna make a Dendermonde stabbings post but i guess you've cleared it up for me, good job we as partly researchers need to branch out to these unkown events instead of focusing on 1 or 2 events excessively.
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Subject: Re: Dendermonde Nursery mass stabbing Fri Aug 18, 2017 3:07 am
I hate how unpopular Kim De Gelder and the Dendermonde nursery attack is, despite how brutal it was.
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Subject: Re: Dendermonde Nursery mass stabbing Fri Aug 18, 2017 4:38 pm
InsaneIntruder wrote:
I hate how unpopular Kim De Gelder and the Dendermonde nursery attack is, despite how brutal it was.
Lanza got so famous because he committed his attack at a period in time when mass shootings were a hot button issue in the US. The fact that he killed so many, and that the victims were young children, made it seem like a serious escalation of previous shootings prompting intense debate. Since Lanza embodied many traits associated with mass shooters, people were able to demonize those things simply because Lanza was associated with them. If Kim De Gelder had that, he would've stood a better chance.
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Subject: Re: Dendermonde Nursery mass stabbing Tue Aug 27, 2024 8:35 am
Alleged picture of Kim De Gelder as a child [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
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Subject: Re: Dendermonde Nursery mass stabbing Tue Aug 27, 2024 8:40 am
STK wrote:
A total of eighteen infants under the age of three and six adults were in the nursery at the time of the attack.[2][7] Two infants and one adult were killed;[2][8] six children, all between one and three years old, were seriously injured; another four suffered minor injuries; and nine escaped unscathed.[9] The alleged perpetrator left the scene on his bike.
I think he stabbed everyone present at the nursery that day & had plans to move onto other daycares too; he also had a fake revolver with him, imagine how more deadly it would have been if it was a real one..
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Subject: Re: Dendermonde Nursery mass stabbing Tue Oct 22, 2024 5:01 pm
Sketch of Kim De Gelder of how he looked like during the attack [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
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Subject: Re: Dendermonde Nursery mass stabbing Tue Oct 22, 2024 5:10 pm
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Subject: Re: Dendermonde Nursery mass stabbing Tue Oct 22, 2024 6:10 pm
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Sketch of Kim De Gelder of how he looked like during the attack [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
That makes him look more like a goth James Holmes than the Joker.
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Subject: Re: Dendermonde Nursery mass stabbing Tue Oct 22, 2024 6:27 pm
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Subject: Re: Dendermonde Nursery mass stabbing Tue Oct 22, 2024 10:44 pm
What a bizarre scene, what did this guy get out of stabbing infants?
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Subject: Re: Dendermonde Nursery mass stabbing Tue Oct 22, 2024 11:15 pm
this tigga is the belgian akhtyamov [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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Subject: Re: Dendermonde Nursery mass stabbing Wed Oct 23, 2024 12:39 am
How true is it that Gelder was inspired by the Joker? In addition to his makeup, the attack occurred almost a year after Heath Ledger's death and I supposedly read that Gelder was obsessed with the movie The Dark Knight Rises, however I have read that his lawyer said that Gelder and his crimes were unrelated to his crimes.
I have not investigated his case in depth mainly due to the language barrier, I read that his motive was the classic "I hate society and I want revenge", that being said, someone who knows more than me about this incident had his crime some relation with the joker, and if it wasn't, why did he used makeup and dye his hair?
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Subject: Re: Dendermonde Nursery mass stabbing Wed Oct 23, 2024 6:10 am
CoreyVanVonWeg wrote:
How true is it that Gelder was inspired by the Joker? In addition to his makeup, the attack occurred almost a year after Heath Ledger's death and I supposedly read that Gelder was obsessed with the movie The Dark Knight Rises, however I have read that his lawyer said that Gelder and his crimes were unrelated to his crimes.
I have not investigated his case in depth mainly due to the language barrier, I read that his motive was the classic "I hate society and I want revenge", that being said, someone who knows more than me about this incident had his crime some relation with the joker, and if it wasn't, why did he used makeup and dye his hair?
It's still unclear to this day. Some sources say that de Gelder was inspired by the Joker, other sources say that his makeup was coincidentally similar with Ledger's one, but wasn't inspired by the movie. He watched a movie "The Dark Knight" so it's possible; I assume that his lawyer said that the movie didn't inspired his client to defend him by portraying his crime as an act of madman (if the Joker thing is true, it means that de Gelder wanted to be famous).