Mandalay Bay Hotel Shooting

I agree, this one is destined to keep the conspiracy theorists going for years. I am in awe of how many times they have switched the timeline so far, among other aspects of the shooting.

Some people wonder why I doubt main stream media coverage, this is a shining example as to why I am a skeptical person.

ShadowedGoddess wrote:

I agree, this one is destined to keep the conspiracy theorists going for years. I am in awe of how many times they have switched the timeline so far, among other aspects of the shooting.

Some people wonder why I doubt main stream media coverage, this is a shining example as to why I am a skeptical person.  

technically there is a conspiracy and the conspiracy is stephen paddock himself, A old man with a wealthy enjoyable life and a person who would gift massive amount of money to strangers, i just want to know why such a man would commit the act without any obvious causes or negativity in his life and the narrative that he still has no motive despite how complexly he planned it

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ShadowedGoddess wrote:

I agree, this one is destined to keep the conspiracy theorists going for years. I am in awe of how many times they have switched the timeline so far, among other aspects of the shooting.

Some people wonder why I doubt main stream media coverage, this is a shining example as to why I am a skeptical person.  

technically there is a conspiracy and the conspiracy is stephen paddock himself, A old man with a wealthy enjoyable life and a person who would gift massive amount of money to strangers, i just want to know why such a man would commit the act without any obvious causes or negativity in his life and the narrative that he still has no motive despite how complexly he planned it

Why he did it remains the million dollar question, we still have no motive in sight.

Most mass shootings occur because the shooter desires infamy/revenge. It's pretty simple, usually.

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Well, this is nice. It looks like at least one of his severely wounded victims might recover over time.

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The wounded security guard is still missing, it seems.

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The wounded security guard is still missing, it seems.

An the plot thickens. Although if Campos is doing this to try to stay out of the media, it has backfired horribly. Now everyone is wondering where he is and why he would go into hiding.

So this security guards first appearance is on Ellen? LOL

This shit is just weird.

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So this security guards first appearance is on Ellen? LOL

This shit is just weird.

Very weird, and will likely get weirder.

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Staff has entered Paddock's room at least 10 times during his stay, and saw nothing suspicious prior to the shooting.

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Staff has entered Paddock's room at least 10 times during his stay, and saw nothing suspicious prior to the shooting.

They might be lying to cover their asses. I'm not sure I believe them.

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Staff has entered Paddock's room at least 10 times during his stay, and saw nothing suspicious prior to the shooting.

They might be lying to cover their asses. I'm not sure I believe them.

If I read correctly the article said that the last 3 days he had a "Do Not Disturb" sign up. So that would have given him time to bring everything up and prepare.  

BUT he also had room service brought up that day, and no one saw anything? Yeah I do find that hard to believe.

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New crime scene pics released.

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New crime scene pics released.

It's always weird seeing new stuff like this.

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New crime scene pics released.

His room doesn't seem like the nicest place to die at.

The Report released by the Las Vegas Police Department :
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New crime scene pics released.

His room doesn't seem like the nicest place to die at.

I agree! It may just be that I am a girl, but that is the ugliest room colors/decor I have ever seen. If this was one of the nicer high roller rooms, then I would hate to see the normal lower cost rooms.

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New crime scene pics released.

His room doesn't seem like the nicest place to die at.

I agree! It may just be that I am a girl, but that is the ugliest room colors/decor I have ever seen. If this was one of the nicer high roller rooms, then I would hate to see the normal lower cost rooms.

I personally meant it looked like a mess and didn't seem cozy and/or homely, but I agree that it looks ugly.

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The Report released by the Las Vegas Police Department :
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On Page 47:

"Additionally, several hundred images of CP were located on the computer’s hard drive. The investigation into the source of these images is ongoing."

Wasn't one of Stephen's brothers was arrested a few months for possessing CP? If this is true then we have another shooter involved in CP if you count Thomas Hamilton and Adam Lanza.

UncontinuedProcess wrote:

Wasn't one of Stephen's brothers was arrested a few months for possessing CP? If this is true then we have another shooter involved in CP if you count Thomas Hamilton and Adam Lanza.

Matthew J. Murrary, the YWAM/New Life Church Shooter also had CP on his computer.
Alvaro Castillo experienced sexual attraction to a toddler he was babysitting and feared he might have been a pedophile.

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On Page 47:

"Additionally, several hundred images of CP were located on the computer’s hard drive. The investigation into the source of these images is ongoing."

Wasn't one of Stephen's brothers was arrested a few months for possessing CP? If this is true then we have another shooter involved in CP if you count Thomas Hamilton and Adam Lanza.

Maybe Stephen's brother was the one who put the CP there and Stephen himself had nothing to do with it? Could also be that both of them were pedophiles or that Stephen was assisting his brother in collecting CP.

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Matthew J. Murrary, the YWAM/New Life Church Shooter also had CP on his computer.

Never knew that. Source?

From page 5 of the Supplemental Report (http://murderpedia.org/male.M/images/murray_matthew/20080327_024606_ArvadaSummary.pdf):
"he had in excess of a half million images which consisted of adult pornography, child pornography, and homosexual pornography"

STK wrote:

From page 5 of the Supplemental Report (http://murderpedia.org/male.M/images/murray_matthew/20080327_024606_ArvadaSummary.pdf):
"he had in excess of a half million images which consisted of adult pornography, child pornography, and homosexual pornography"

I find it weird how, if I recall correctly, he had complained to YWAM about other students being homosexual yet had homosexual pornography.

STK wrote:

From page 5 of the Supplemental Report (http://murderpedia.org/male.M/images/murray_matthew/20080327_024606_ArvadaSummary.pdf):
"he had in excess of a half million images which consisted of adult pornography, child pornography, and homosexual pornography"

Half a million images? Holy shit.

Thanks for the source.

InsaneIntruder wrote:

STK wrote:

From page 5 of the Supplemental Report (http://murderpedia.org/male.M/images/murray_matthew/20080327_024606_ArvadaSummary.pdf):
"he had in excess of a half million images which consisted of adult pornography, child pornography, and homosexual pornography"

I find it weird how, if I recall correctly, he had complained to YWAM about other students being homosexual yet had homosexual pornography.

Why is that weird? The loudest objectors tend to be the biggest hypocrites.

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Photos of Paddock's Body in the newly released photos [GORE]:

Did you ask Jenn if you could post this? After all, it does show him dead.

InsaneIntruder wrote:

mordupen wrote:

Photos of Paddock's Body in the newly released photos [GORE]:

Did you ask Jenn if you could post this? After all, it does show him dead.

It's different because they're not the Columbine suicide photos. Once photos like these are hidden by a warning and are relevant to the topic at hand It's fine.

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InsaneIntruder wrote:

mordupen wrote:

Photos of Paddock's Body in the newly released photos [GORE]:

Did you ask Jenn if you could post this? After all, it does show him dead.

It's different because they're not the Columbine suicide photos. Once photos like these are hidden by a warning and are relevant to the topic at hand It's fine.

I guess. I personally would've asked Jenn though, but you do you.

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Paddock had child porn on his computer. Has anything else ever been said about his brother who was caught with child porn as well?

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Paddock had child porn on his computer. Has anything else ever been said about his brother who was caught with child porn as well?

The last I heard his brother pleaded not guilty to his charges.

Now that I think about it, maybe the massacre happened because Stephen knew he'd be busted for CP and decided to go out and give one last "fuck you" to the world before he left.

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Maybe Stephen's brother was the one who put the CP there and Stephen himself had nothing to do with it? Could also be that both of them were pedophiles or that Stephen was assisting his brother in collecting CP.

Maybe it was the other way around; Maybe Paddock was the one who put CP on his brother's computer. The aforementioned brother did plead not guilty after all; It's possible he was telling the truth.

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Now that I think about it, maybe the massacre happened because Stephen knew he'd be busted for CP and decided to go out and give one last "fuck you" to the world before he left.

That's probably the best theory we have regarding his motive. I'm mildly surprised he didn't target an elementary school considering his apparent pedophilia; I suppose his sexual frustration was outweighed by his desire to craft the biggest "fuck you" to the world as possible.

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Court records show authorities initially identified two "persons of interest" in addition to the lone gunman, Stephen Paddock, in the early hours after the Las Vegas shooting.

The name of one of those people is blacked out in court records released Tuesday to The Associated Press. The Las Vegas Review-Journal , citing police documents, identifies that person as Douglas Haig.

Haig could not immediately be reached by The Associated Press on Tuesday.

The other person of interest identified in the search warrant records is Paddock's girlfriend, Marilou Danley. She was in the Philippines at the time of the attack and is cooperating with investigators.


Authorities say she's not likely to face criminal charges. It's not clear if Haig could face charges related to the Oct. 1 shooting. Police did not immediately return calls seeking comment on Tuesday.

I wonder what relevance this guy has to Stephen Paddock.

Someone was making illegal ammo:

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Damned report is supposedly about armor piercing ammo, but then goes on and on about tracer ammo that Paddock didn't even use.

Kinda morbid, but it would have been kinda cool if he had used tracers. They rock!

FYI- tracers are the bullets that light up (only on thier sides, not the noses or tails) like in the movies...and they really do rock. Ask anyone who has been in an intense firefight at night and had them loaded in the M2 or 240G.

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Someone was making illegal ammo:

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Damned report is supposedly about armor piercing ammo, but then goes on and on about tracer ammo that Paddock didn't even use.  

Kinda morbid, but it would have been kinda cool if he had used tracers.  They rock!  

FYI- tracers are the bullets that light up (only on thier sides, not the noses or tails) like in the movies...and they really do rock.  Ask anyone who has been in an intense firefight at night and had them loaded in the M2 or 240G.

I'm guessing he didn't use tracers because it would've been easier to track where he was from them.

Either that or he decided tracers wouldn't really make a difference in the upcoming massacre.

Speaking from experience, they are useless to the shooter. As you stated, they are much more useful in identifying the source of the fire. He might have figured all that out.

Militaries use them more nowadays to mark targets for third parties (supporting shooters) than like they used to back in World War II, where tracers would be a common loadout on aircraft, ships, support guns on vehicles etc.

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Perfection

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The brother of Las Vegas gunman Stephen Paddock called his shooter sibling a "piece of s--t" Friday, minutes after a Los Angeles judge ordered him to stand trial for felony possession of child pornography.

Bruce Paddock, 59, refused to talk about his criminal case with the Daily News but berated his now-dead brother and lashed out at his defense lawyer Peter Korn as they left a Los Angeles courthouse, with Paddock in a wheelchair.

"I don't need you talking and telling me not to talk. What a jerk," Paddock said, referring to the lawyer who minutes earlier succeeded in getting 19 of his 20 criminal charges dropped at his preliminary hearing. "Shut up."

Asked about his mass-murdering brother, he said, "I don't have a brother named Stephen Paddock. He's an entity that died a long time ago. Some piece of s--t entity once called my big brother."

In other comments after his hearing, Paddock proposed a dinner date with a female reporter and complained about his landlord trying to reject his rent and evict him.

During the morning hearing, Los Angeles Police Department Officer Anthony Keller said investigators found more than a thousand images of child pornography on 236 CDs allegedly belonging to Paddock.

The CDs were collected in 2014 from a business where Paddock was squatting in the Sun Valley section of Los Angeles, authorities said.

Keller said 90% involved children under the age of 12. He said one image was of a nude child tied to a locker room bench.

He said other images involved Paddock "in different sexual poses."

When Deputy District Attorney Angela Brunson tried to move on from there, Los Angeles County Superior Court Commissioner Kristi Lousteau asked Keller to explain what was meant by "sexual poses."

"There would be a bottle up his rectum," Keller said."





Well that's a bad mental picture I didn't need this morning.      

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The brother of Las Vegas gunman Stephen Paddock called his shooter sibling a "piece of s--t" Friday, minutes after a Los Angeles judge ordered him to stand trial for felony possession of child pornography.

Bruce Paddock, 59, refused to talk about his criminal case with the Daily News but berated his now-dead brother and lashed out at his defense lawyer Peter Korn as they left a Los Angeles courthouse, with Paddock in a wheelchair.

"I don't need you talking and telling me not to talk. What a jerk," Paddock said, referring to the lawyer who minutes earlier succeeded in getting 19 of his 20 criminal charges dropped at his preliminary hearing. "Shut up."

Asked about his mass-murdering brother, he said, "I don't have a brother named Stephen Paddock. He's an entity that died a long time ago. Some piece of s--t entity once called my big brother."

In other comments after his hearing, Paddock proposed a dinner date with a female reporter and complained about his landlord trying to reject his rent and evict him.

During the morning hearing, Los Angeles Police Department Officer Anthony Keller said investigators found more than a thousand images of child pornography on 236 CDs allegedly belonging to Paddock.

The CDs were collected in 2014 from a business where Paddock was squatting in the Sun Valley section of Los Angeles, authorities said.

Keller said 90% involved children under the age of 12. He said one image was of a nude child tied to a locker room bench.

He said other images involved Paddock "in different sexual poses."

When Deputy District Attorney Angela Brunson tried to move on from there, Los Angeles County Superior Court Commissioner Kristi Lousteau asked Keller to explain what was meant by "sexual poses."

"There would be a bottle up his rectum," Keller said."





Well that's a bad mental picture I didn't need this morning.      

Well now it's undeniable that Bruce is a pedophile himself. Now I'm just left wondering whether Stephen was in on it or not.

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The brother of Las Vegas gunman Stephen Paddock called his shooter sibling a "piece of s--t" Friday, minutes after a Los Angeles judge ordered him to stand trial for felony possession of child pornography.

Bruce Paddock, 59, refused to talk about his criminal case with the Daily News but berated his now-dead brother and lashed out at his defense lawyer Peter Korn as they left a Los Angeles courthouse, with Paddock in a wheelchair.

"I don't need you talking and telling me not to talk. What a jerk," Paddock said, referring to the lawyer who minutes earlier succeeded in getting 19 of his 20 criminal charges dropped at his preliminary hearing. "Shut up."

Asked about his mass-murdering brother, he said, "I don't have a brother named Stephen Paddock. He's an entity that died a long time ago. Some piece of s--t entity once called my big brother."

In other comments after his hearing, Paddock proposed a dinner date with a female reporter and complained about his landlord trying to reject his rent and evict him.

During the morning hearing, Los Angeles Police Department Officer Anthony Keller said investigators found more than a thousand images of child pornography on 236 CDs allegedly belonging to Paddock.

The CDs were collected in 2014 from a business where Paddock was squatting in the Sun Valley section of Los Angeles, authorities said.

Keller said 90% involved children under the age of 12. He said one image was of a nude child tied to a locker room bench.

He said other images involved Paddock "in different sexual poses."

When Deputy District Attorney Angela Brunson tried to move on from there, Los Angeles County Superior Court Commissioner Kristi Lousteau asked Keller to explain what was meant by "sexual poses."

"There would be a bottle up his rectum," Keller said."





Well that's a bad mental picture I didn't need this morning.      

Well now it's undeniable that Bruce is a pedophile himself. Now I'm just left wondering whether Stephen was in on it or not.

Farther down the article it talked about Stephen having child porn as well.


"Authorities have yet to uncover a motive in the Las Vegas massacre, in which Stephen Paddock opened fire from his hotel room on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay casino-hotel, killing the 58 people and injuring more than 700.

Amid their investigation, detectives also uncovered "several hundred images of child pornography" on Stephen Paddock's computer."

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Farther down the article it talked about Stephen having child porn as well.


"Authorities have yet to uncover a motive in the Las Vegas massacre, in which Stephen Paddock opened fire from his hotel room on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay casino-hotel, killing the 58 people and injuring more than 700.

Amid their investigation, detectives also uncovered "several hundred images of child pornography" on Stephen Paddock's computer."

Yeah, I'm curious to know whether to two brothers were collecting kid porn with each other or on their own.

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ShadowedGoddess wrote:

Farther down the article it talked about Stephen having child porn as well.


"Authorities have yet to uncover a motive in the Las Vegas massacre, in which Stephen Paddock opened fire from his hotel room on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay casino-hotel, killing the 58 people and injuring more than 700.

Amid their investigation, detectives also uncovered "several hundred images of child pornography" on Stephen Paddock's computer."

Yeah, I'm curious to know whether to two brothers were collecting kid porn with each other or on their own.

Who knows... Finding any new info on anything Paddock related is somewhat hard.

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It had been 155 days since gunman Stephen Paddock committed the deadliest mass shooting in modern US history. But most victims and their families, until now, had yet to receive any financial aid stemming from the over 90,000 donors who gave.
After several months of the LVVF deciding how to best allocate the money, the charitable organization began making those distributions today.

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The Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department has every right to try and recoup costs for providing the media with body camera videos, 911 records and written reports in connection with the city’s Oct. 1 massacre, a judge has decided.

But police cannot charge “exhorbitant fees,” such as the range of $233,750 to $458,159 the department has estimated for making such data available, Clark County District Judge Richard Scotti ruled Friday.

“An excessive fee is the antithesis to government accountability,” the judge wrote in his decision. “The government cannot frustrate the Media’s efforts to obtain information on behalf of the public by charging exorbitant fees.”

The media companies have contended that police officials have been in violation of public records laws.

However, Scotti said it could take at least six months for the police department to comply with the information requests the media has made. He scheduled a hearing for later this month, for an update from lawyers for the department and for media companies.

Records could shed light on the response by public agencies and emergency workers when the shooter opened fire for more than 10 minutes from 32nd-story windows of a casino hotel room into an open-air concert crowd of 22,000 people below.

The judge ruled that Las Vegas police can charge 81 cents a page for evidence logs and interview reports, including 31 cents a page for copying and 50 cents a page for staff time.

Scotti noted that police said there are almost 750 hours of body camera recordings from the shooting. The judge said police can recover copy costs for body camera footage and 911 audio recordings, including time to reproduce them and the cost of the DVD, flash drive, CD or other medium.

Media companies can also be billed for what the judge termed "pre-copy preparations" of incident dispatch logs.