Manhattan Truck Attack

At around 3:05 p.m. EDT on October 31, 2017, a man named Sayfullo Saipov (29) driving a rented flatbed pickup truck from New Jersey painted as a Home Depot truck swerved into the segregated bike lane of West Street in Lower Manhattan.

Entering the bike lane from Houston Street, the driver ran over multiple pedestrians in the Hudson River Park bikeway, mainly bike riders, causing at least eight fatalities and fifteen injuries. The driver came to a stop at Chambers Street after colliding with a school bus.

He reportedly left the truck with fake guns(paint ball and bb gun). Law enforcement officers said that he shouted "Allahu Akbar" as he stepped out of the vehicle. The suspect was shot by New York City Police Department officers and taken into custody and medical care.
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EDIT- No active threat, 8 dead sadly, 15 injured(11 critical)

29-year-old Uzbeki immigrant Sayfullo Habibullaevic Saipov is named as the attacker. He apparently left a note in his vehicle saying he did it for isis

it seems real on twitter there is a video and my friend in the city is texted me about it

from twitter "URGENT: Reports of Multiple People Shot In Manhattan After Man In Truck Ran Over Pedestrians"

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Is this it?

ShadowedGoddess wrote:

Is this it?

yeah, fox is saying police shot the suspect and he is in custody

-warrior wrote:

ShadowedGoddess wrote:

Is this it?

yeah, fox is saying police shot the suspect and he is in custody

Actually several of us had a discussion about people using cars/trucks as weapons not to long ago in a different thread.

ShadowedGoddess wrote:

-warrior wrote:

ShadowedGoddess wrote:

Is this it?

yeah, fox is saying police shot the suspect and he is in custody

Actually several of us had a discussion about people using cars/trucks as weapons not to long ago in a different thread.

they are saying now it was a fight where 2 truckers started fighting and 1 truck drove on a bike path and the other one started shooting. But it is still early

-warrior wrote:

ShadowedGoddess wrote:

-warrior wrote:

ShadowedGoddess wrote:

Is this it?

yeah, fox is saying police shot the suspect and he is in custody

Actually several of us had a discussion about people using cars/trucks as weapons not to long ago in a different thread.

they are saying now it was a fight where 2 truckers started fighting and 1 truck drove on a bike path and the other one started shooting. But it is still early  

While the lovely media outlets like to toss out any bit of info they come by, that is likely to change when more is found out.

newest report saying 2 dead, 8 injured..luckily not many causalities

Several sources are saying up to six dead and more people injured. Some witnesses have said that the driver of the truck pulled out a gun and started shooting before he was shot by the police.

As this is still a developing story, it will probably change a few times before all is said and done.

They just reported that witnesses said the driver was shouting "Allahu Akbar." Also reporting that the FBI is taking over the case in the context of a terrorist incident.

sscc wrote:

Several sources are saying up to six dead and more people injured. Some witnesses have said that the driver of the truck pulled out a gun and started shooting before he was shot by the police.

i heard reports say he had a paintball gun and bb gun

A (possibly) radical islamic attack by a lone wolf on unsuspecting people using a motor vehicle.

How has something so specific become this stupidly common?

Also, he was holding FAKE guns.
Why are you using fake guns, the american police have real ones, and they shoot whenever a molecule moves, it's like if I went at my local English police with a foam baton.

awsomehq wrote:

A (possibly) radical islamic attack by a lone wolf on unsuspecting people using a motor vehicle.

How has something so specific become this stupidly common?

Also, he was holding FAKE guns.
Why are you using fake guns, the american police have real ones, and they shoot whenever a molecule moves, it's like if I went at my local English police with a foam baton.

maybe he planned on suicide after. Also i think nyc has a law (im not 100% sure) that they cant shoot at moving vehicles

awsomehq wrote:

A (possibly) radical islamic attack by a lone wolf on unsuspecting people using a motor vehicle.

How has something so specific become this stupidly common?

Also, he was holding FAKE guns.
Why are you using fake guns, the american police have real ones, and they shoot whenever a molecule moves, it's like if I went at my local English police with a foam baton.

I guess it's become common because it's so effective and so easy for anyone to do. He didn't need to acquire a gun to kill people and maybe the fake gun was to ensure that the police would kill him and he would not be captured, like -warrior said. If this was Islamic terrorism as it appears to be he would want to be martyred, not sitting in a jail cell.

It would also be a good idea to rename to forum post to 'Manhattan Truck Attack'

The annoying thing about Vehicle attacks is that although they are less deadly than gun attacks, they are easier to do and harder to stop, without major intervention in the culture and country itself.

awsomehq wrote:

The annoying thing about Vehicle attacks is that although they are less deadly than gun attacks, they are easier to do and harder to stop, without major intervention in the culture and country itself.

vehicle attacks are basically on par with gun attacks..12 in Germany, 13 in Spain, 86 in France..Gun attacks are just more common

Ok. Let's see the most deadly gun atacks in a country and the most deadly vehicle attacks in a country and see if they match each other?

awsomehq wrote:

Ok. Let's see the most deadly gun atacks in a country and the most deadly vehicle attacks in a country and see if they match each other?

69- utoya

86-nice

I mean per country

awsomehq wrote:

I mean per country

i dont know, but truck attacks arent as commons gun violence so i dont know

UK
Shooting attack: Dunblane Massacre, 17 Dead.
Vehicle Attack: 2017 London Bridge attack: 8 Dead.

Australia
Shooting attack: Port Arthur Massacre: 35 Dead.
Vehicle attack: Melbourne Car Attack: 6 Dead.

France
Shooting attack: 2015 Paris Attacks: 137 Dead.
Vehicle Attack: Nice Truck Attack: 86 Dead.

USA
Shooting Attack: Mandalay Bay shooting: 58 Dead.
Vehicle attack: Manhatten Truck attack: 8+ Dead.

Norway
Shooting attack: Oslo Attacks: 77 Dead.
Vehicle Attack: Uhhhhhhhhhhh, Road rage now and again?

awsomehq wrote:

UK
Shooting attack: Dunblane Massacre, 17 Dead.
Vehicle Attack: 2017 London Bridge attack: 8 Dead.

Australia
Shooting attack: Port Arthur Massacre: 35 Dead.
Vehicle attack: Melbourne Car Attack: 6 Dead.

France
Shooting attack: 2015 Paris Attacks: 137 Dead.
Vehicle Attack: Nice Truck Attack: 86 Dead.

USA
Shooting Attack: Mandalay Bay shooting: 58 Dead.
Vehicle attack: Manhatten Truck attack: 8+ Dead.

Norway
Shooting attack: Oslo Attacks: 77 Dead.
Vehicle Attack: Uhhhhhhhhhhh, Road rage now and again?

like ive said truck attacks are not as common. Also the bataclan had like 8 shooters i wouldnt consider that a lone wolf gunmen

Ok
In the France case. It is a group attack.
The deadliest lone wolf attack were Eric Borel's school shooting , 15 dead.

A well planned Vehicle attack is on Par with a well planned shooting.

A badly planned vehicle attack is severely less deadly than a shooting attack.

Not as ineffective as a Melee Weapon attack.

There was an NYPD briefing on CNN and there were 8 people killed, all males. There were 11 other people seriously injured.

The perpetrator was a 29 year old male who was not from New York. It was an act of terror based on the "Allahu Akbar" statement and the familiar MO.

He rented a truck and drove down the West Side Highway bicycle path from Houston Street and crashed into a school bus on Chambers Street which was carrying two adults and two children who are among the injured. He pulled out a paintball gun and pellet gun and was shot in the abdomen by the police. He is currently in the hospital.

sscc wrote:

There was an NYPD briefing on CNN and there were 8 people killed, all males. There were 11 other people seriously injured.

The perpetrator was a 29 year old male who was not from New York. It was an act of terror based on the "Allahu Akbar" statement and the familiar MO.

He rented a truck and drove down the West Side Highway bicycle path from Houston Street and crashed into a school bus on Chambers Street which was carrying two adults and two children who are among the injured. He pulled out a paintball gun and pellet gun and was shot in the abdomen by the police. He is currently in the hospital.

i heard he had a Florida id on him. Its like Esteban Santiago how he traveled from anther state to carry out a rampage

The attacker shouted "allahu akbar", so this time it is an ISIS attack, unlike Las Vegas massacre.

Another interesting bit of information was that after these vehicular attacks were recommended by ISIS and the Thanksgiving Day Parade in NYC was identified as a potential target, law enforcement agencies in New York apparently reached out to over a hundred truck rental agencies to notify them of warning signs and give them a way to report suspicious renters. After the deadly attacks in Europe, they followed up with all of these truck rental agencies two more times to remind them to be vigilant.

-warrior wrote:

sscc wrote:

There was an NYPD briefing on CNN and there were 8 people killed, all males. There were 11 other people seriously injured.

The perpetrator was a 29 year old male who was not from New York. It was an act of terror based on the "Allahu Akbar" statement and the familiar MO.

He rented a truck and drove down the West Side Highway bicycle path from Houston Street and crashed into a school bus on Chambers Street which was carrying two adults and two children who are among the injured. He pulled out a paintball gun and pellet gun and was shot in the abdomen by the police. He is currently in the hospital.

i heard he had a Florida id on him. Its like Esteban Santiago how he traveled from anther state to carry out a rampage  

In this case the target might have significance and that would explain the travel. The area of the attack is right near the WTC site and the new Freedom Tower and this is the first successful terrorist attack in New York since 9/11.

They did ask if he was from Florida during the press conference but they were not willing to confirm. The police and media seem to be withholding details of his identity because they don't want any interference in the investigation right now.

awsomehq wrote:

Why are you using fake guns, the american police have real ones, and they shoot whenever a molecule moves

This is painfully accurate! Apparently he had a death wish. We will see if it gets granted.

ShadowedGoddess wrote:

awsomehq wrote:

Why are you using fake guns, the american police have real ones, and they shoot whenever a molecule moves

This is painfully accurate! Apparently he had a death wish. We will see if its gets granted.

hes alive and ny doesnt have death penalty charges..maybe he could get federal death charges..i mean if he gets sent to adx florence hes in for a fucked time

Hm. Have there been any terrorist attacks like this before where the attacker did not commit suicide or was not killed during the attack?

sscc wrote:

Hm. Have there been any terrorist attacks like this before where the attacker did not commit suicide or was not killed during the attack?

not a terror attack but Dimitrious Gargasoulas didn't die, the guy who killed 1 after running over people exiting a mosque was also arrested

awsomehq wrote:

Also, he was holding FAKE guns.

Reminds me of a German hostage situation in a city hall. The guy took a girl he was stalking and 2 others hostage with a fake gun and a knife. Police eventually stormed the room, shot him and arrested him. He was apparently banned from the city hall because of stalking a girl who worked there that he took hostage.

They have identified the "suspect."

His name is Sayfullo Saipov and he is a 29 year old Uzbek national who came to the United States in 2010. He has had addresses in Pennsylvania and New Jersey and currently lives in Tampa, Florida.

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sscc wrote:

They have identified the "suspect."

hes from Uzbekistan, second time a terror attack was committed in the west by a Uzbek

Donald Trump will probably want to ban all people from Uzbekistan after this incident.

Ziamber II wrote:

Donald Trump will probably want to ban all people from Uzbekistan after this incident.

Ziamber II wrote:

Donald Trump will probably want to ban all people from Uzbekistan after this incident.

i mean we should look into the Diversity Immigrant Visa program and see if it actually vets these people

-warrior wrote:

i mean we should look into the Diversity Immigrant Visa program and see if it actually vets these people

Sad to say but I truly don't think a vetting program will weed these people out at this point. For the most part they are already here and have been for a number of years. This is just the sad reality of the world today.

As I said before, if someone is soul sick enough to want to do these types of things then they will find a way.

ShadowedGoddess wrote:

-warrior wrote:

i mean we should look into the Diversity Immigrant Visa program and see if it actually vets these people

Sad to say but I truly don't think a vetting program will weed these people out at this point. For the most part they are already here and have been for a number of years. This is just the sad reality of the world today.

As I said before, if someone is soul sick enough to want to do these types of things then they will find a way.

well it going away now

"We are fighting hard for Merit Based immigration, no more Democrat Lottery Systems. We must get MUCH tougher (and smarter). @foxandfriends" -donald trump

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Not sure if this was posted yet. Note found saying the attack was done in the name of ISIS. But they haven't claimed it yet.

ShadowedGoddess wrote:

Not sure if this was posted yet. Note found saying the attack was done in the name of ISIS. But they haven't claimed it yet.

it was done in the name of isis, he pledged allifgance to isis and he was proud of his attack

-warrior wrote:

ShadowedGoddess wrote:

Not sure if this was posted yet. Note found saying the attack was done in the name of ISIS. But they haven't claimed it yet.

it was done in the name of isis, he pledged allifgance to isis and he was proud of his attack

Well I hope he enjoys what that pride will get him.

In his defense bikers are super annoying.....

ShadowedGoddess wrote:

-warrior wrote:

ShadowedGoddess wrote:

Not sure if this was posted yet. Note found saying the attack was done in the name of ISIS. But they haven't claimed it yet.

it was done in the name of isis, he pledged allifgance to isis and he was proud of his attack

Well I hope he enjoys what that pride will get him.

Trump said in a cabinet press confrence a few minutes ago that he wanted to send the guy to Gitmo

-warrior wrote:

ShadowedGoddess wrote:

-warrior wrote:

ShadowedGoddess wrote:

Not sure if this was posted yet. Note found saying the attack was done in the name of ISIS. But they haven't claimed it yet.

it was done in the name of isis, he pledged allifgance to isis and he was proud of his attack

Well I hope he enjoys what that pride will get him.

Trump said in a cabinet press confrence a few minutes ago that he wanted to send the guy to Gitmo

Well he would deserve the trip.