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PostSubject: Shooters with lack of photos   Shooters with lack of photos Icon_minitimeTue Dec 12, 2017 8:04 am

What are some shooters which have... not enough photos of themselves? Of which shooter would you like to see more photos?

I've been dying for years to see other photo of Marc Lepine and I think I saw it in one documentary, but I struggle to find it again.

Larry Gene Ashbrook also have only one photo (on which he looks badass)

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Joseph Wesbecker also had only one photo of him in the media, but I finally found one other in some documentary.

What about you?
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PostSubject: Re: Shooters with lack of photos   Shooters with lack of photos Icon_minitimeTue Dec 12, 2017 11:08 am

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PostSubject: Re: Shooters with lack of photos   Shooters with lack of photos Icon_minitimeTue Dec 12, 2017 11:24 am

there is only one photo of Michael Ryan, the rest were burnt in his house fire.
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PostSubject: Re: Shooters with lack of photos   Shooters with lack of photos Icon_minitimeTue Dec 12, 2017 2:22 pm

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there is only one photo of Michael Ryan, the rest were burnt in his house fire.
I actually just came across one recently that I'd never seen before, but it's a photo from childhood.
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There is also one more childhood photo from a newspaper cover.
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PostSubject: Re: Shooters with lack of photos   Shooters with lack of photos Icon_minitimeTue Dec 12, 2017 2:42 pm

This. Michael Ryan haunted me for years because of the fact that there is only one fucking photo of him, that one where he's standing with the pitchfork. Childhood photos are interesting, but doesn't give us any view of how he looked at the time of the shootings. I think we have to accept that there is no other photo of him as adult actually existing.

Tristan van der Vlis - there are 4 or 5 photos of him, but I assume they were taken when he was a teenager. He was 24 or 25 at the time of the shooting so no idea how he looked back then.

Anyone want to see that second Joseph Wesbecker photo? I can try to search again for it and upload

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PostSubject: Re: Shooters with lack of photos   Shooters with lack of photos Icon_minitimeTue Dec 12, 2017 2:50 pm

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This. Michael Ryan haunted me for years because of the fact that there is only one fucking photo of him, that one where he's standing with the pitchfork. Childhood photos are interesting, but doesn't give us any view of how he looked at the time of the shootings. I think we have to accept that there is no other photo of him as adult actually existing.
I feel similarly about Lanza. There are a number of photos of him but most are from his childhood and teenage years and I want to know what he looked like in his last couple of years, if not the day of the shooting. The police definitely have photos of him (posing with guns) but I read somewhere that these were still from two years before the shooting so it's unclear if any photos of Adam over the age of 18 ever existed at all.

Edit: Also, I always wonder if these are actually two separate photos of Michael Ryan from the same general moment but I can't tell if it's just the varying quality of the photos.
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Do you see how in some versions, it looks like his mouth is opening like he's about to say something and in others, his mouth is closed (with possibly a slightly different expression on his face)?
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PostSubject: Re: Shooters with lack of photos   Shooters with lack of photos Icon_minitimeTue Dec 12, 2017 3:12 pm

Good point about this photo. I agre that they are two different photos, maybe taken with a one second break. His facial expression is different, his nose is up, mouth open.

Lanza photos don't satisfy me also. Firstly, because of his "inhuman" looks, I can't imagine even the way he was walking. Secondly, as you say, because he was 14-18. At the age of 20 he could look slightly different, maybe he grow a beard or something. It's a shame that even his brother didn't have more actual photos of him.

So we are stuck on Ryan and Lanza and I doubt we will find more photos of them. They're like ghosts, like they never existed and in some way it's cool, because it adds some mystery in their cases.

I remember regarding Patrick Sherrill as a "one photo shooter", but after the research I found 8 or 9 photo of him in total. If anyone will show interest, I'll upload them
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PostSubject: Re: Shooters with lack of photos   Shooters with lack of photos Icon_minitimeTue Dec 12, 2017 11:00 pm

British spree killers Daniel Gonzalez, Robert Sartin and Barry Williams. There's only 1 photo of Gonzalez that I could find, and there's only a few pictures of Sartin and Williams.
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PostSubject: Re: Shooters with lack of photos   Shooters with lack of photos Icon_minitimeWed Dec 13, 2017 3:44 am

I would say it is impossible for anyone in there mid twenties or lower to avoid there photo being online one way or another, for example a school year photo being uploaded on facebook. Therefore most new shootings always have more pictures available. Remember Michael Ryan's Hungerford Massacre was in 1987.
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PostSubject: Re: Shooters with lack of photos   Shooters with lack of photos Icon_minitimeWed Dec 13, 2017 11:08 am

I know it was in 1987, but for example there are about 10 photos of James Huberty, and his shooting was 3 years earlier.

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PostSubject: Re: Shooters with lack of photos   Shooters with lack of photos Icon_minitimeThu Jan 18, 2018 11:02 pm

My first thought before I opened this thread was George Hennard, which funnily enough OP has as his picture. I'd also include Frank Vitkovic who killed 8 people in 1987 during the Queen Street massacre.
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PostSubject: Re: Shooters with lack of photos   Shooters with lack of photos Icon_minitimeThu Jan 18, 2018 11:20 pm

it seems like there's hardly any pictures of adam lanza or chris harper-mercer, at least compared to what we have of most shooters
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PostSubject: Re: Shooters with lack of photos   Shooters with lack of photos Icon_minitimeSun Jan 21, 2018 9:36 pm

This is the only photo I've found of Robert Poulin, the St. Pius X shooter (I apologize in advance for the watermark, I haven't been able to find a version without it):
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PostSubject: Re: Shooters with lack of photos   Shooters with lack of photos Icon_minitimeMon Jan 22, 2018 1:51 pm

There's only one picture of Marc Lepine which I think is disappointing.

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PostSubject: Re: Shooters with lack of photos   Shooters with lack of photos Icon_minitimeMon Jan 22, 2018 5:11 pm

Yes. it is. If I recall correctly I found one of his photo in some documentary where he's without a beard and looks like a very average normal guy. Maybe someone will find it.
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PostSubject: Re: Shooters with lack of photos   Shooters with lack of photos Icon_minitimeMon Jan 22, 2018 5:11 pm

Tommy QTR wrote:
There's only one picture of Marc Lepine which I think is disappointing.
There's 2, one of him as an adult and another as a kid. Still isn't much though.
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PostSubject: Re: Shooters with lack of photos   Shooters with lack of photos Icon_minitimeMon Jan 22, 2018 5:18 pm

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Yes. it is. If I recall correctly I found one of his photo in some documentary where he's without a beard and looks like a very average normal guy. Maybe someone will find it.
Found this on Google Images when I searched his name.
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PostSubject: Re: Shooters with lack of photos   Shooters with lack of photos Icon_minitimeMon Jan 22, 2018 5:28 pm

Yes, it could be him.

I would also like to see more photos of Michael McLendon. I'll try to research later.
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PostSubject: Re: Shooters with lack of photos   Shooters with lack of photos Icon_minitimeTue Jan 23, 2018 1:14 am

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Yes. it is. If I recall correctly I found one of his photo in some documentary where he's without a beard and looks like a very average normal guy. Maybe someone will find it.
Found this on Google Images when I searched his name.
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I was scrolling through tumblr and someone had posted that picture on there claiming it's a picture of Marc from High School. So that's 3 pictures of him.
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PostSubject: Re: Shooters with lack of photos   Shooters with lack of photos Icon_minitimeTue Jan 23, 2018 4:58 pm

Unseen photo of Joseph Wesbecker, mentioned by me in the first post in this thread.

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PostSubject: Re: Shooters with lack of photos   Shooters with lack of photos Icon_minitimeThu Jan 25, 2018 7:28 pm

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rabadon55 wrote:
Yes. it is. If I recall correctly I found one of his photo in some documentary where he's without a beard and looks like a very average normal guy. Maybe someone will find it.
Found this on Google Images when I searched his name.
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PostSubject: Re: Shooters with lack of photos   Shooters with lack of photos Icon_minitimeThu Jan 25, 2018 9:41 pm

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rabadon55 wrote:
Yes. it is. If I recall correctly I found one of his photo in some documentary where he's without a beard and looks like a very average normal guy. Maybe someone will find it.
Found this on Google Images when I searched his name.
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I saw this better version on Tumblr. Would be good if someone cropped it.
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PostSubject: Re: Shooters with lack of photos   Shooters with lack of photos Icon_minitimeFri Jan 26, 2018 2:25 am

InsaneIntruder wrote:
Moordenaar wrote:
InsaneIntruder wrote:
rabadon55 wrote:
Yes. it is. If I recall correctly I found one of his photo in some documentary where he's without a beard and looks like a very average normal guy. Maybe someone will find it.
Found this on Google Images when I searched his name.
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I saw this better version on Tumblr. Would be good if someone cropped it.
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Cropped it.
Also here's a rare picture of Robert Steinhauser with a toy revolver.
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PostSubject: Re: Shooters with lack of photos   Shooters with lack of photos Icon_minitimeThu Feb 01, 2018 5:39 pm

somebody made a topic on Wesley Higdon and I thought we don't really have much info on him.
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PostSubject: Re: Shooters with lack of photos   Shooters with lack of photos Icon_minitimeFri Feb 02, 2018 1:32 am

Actually we have - I posted that topic and I posted some documentary, where his cousin, girlfriend, mother and two co-workers are talking about the situation. There is also some photos of him, crime scene photos & videos, his body afer suicide and CCTV of the actual shooting.

I'd say that the most mysterious workplace shooter of recent years is Andrew Engeldinger.
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PostSubject: Re: Shooters with lack of photos   Shooters with lack of photos Icon_minitimeFri Feb 02, 2018 7:34 am

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Actually we have - I posted that topic and I posted some documentary, where his cousin, girlfriend, mother and two co-workers are talking about the situation. There is also some photos of him, crime scene photos & videos, his body afer suicide and CCTV of the actual shooting.

I'd say that the most mysterious workplace shooter of recent years is Andrew Engeldinger.
Holy shit, they have his suicide photo? Can you PM me it? (Because it's against the rules to post suicide photos and gore in general but it's ok to PM them to people who ask for them)
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PostSubject: Re: Shooters with lack of photos   Shooters with lack of photos Icon_minitimeFri Feb 02, 2018 8:05 am

sure, will send you in 5 minutes
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sure, will send you in 5 minutes
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rabadon55 wrote:
Actually we have - I posted that topic and I posted some documentary, where his cousin, girlfriend, mother and two co-workers are talking about the situation. There is also some photos of him, crime scene photos & videos, his body afer suicide and CCTV of the actual shooting.

I'd say that the most mysterious workplace shooter of recent years is Andrew Engeldinger.
Holy shit, they have his suicide photo? Can you PM me it? (Because it's against the rules to post suicide photos and gore in general but it's ok to PM them to people who ask for them)

Can I get a copy too?
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PostSubject: Re: Shooters with lack of photos   Shooters with lack of photos Icon_minitimeFri Feb 02, 2018 11:25 am

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rabadon55 wrote:
Actually we have - I posted that topic and I posted some documentary, where his cousin, girlfriend, mother and two co-workers are talking about the situation. There is also some photos of him, crime scene photos & videos, his body afer suicide and CCTV of the actual shooting.

I'd say that the most mysterious workplace shooter of recent years is Andrew Engeldinger.
Holy shit, they have his suicide photo? Can you PM me it? (Because it's against the rules to post suicide photos and gore in general but it's ok to PM them to people who ask for them)

Can I get a copy too?
Sent it.
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sure, will send you in 5 minutes
Thanks.
Could ya send it my way as well?
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sure, will send you in 5 minutes
Thanks.
Could ya send it my way as well?
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Can i see his suicide photo too?
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Can i see his suicide photo too?
Sent.
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If you want to see it, just go to the Neal Higdon thread created by me, scroll down to the documentary I posted and go to the 1:01:46.
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Could you send it too me too?

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Could you send it too me too?
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Thanks man.

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Could you send me the pic as well?

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PostSubject: Re: Shooters with lack of photos   Shooters with lack of photos Icon_minitimeWed Feb 07, 2018 2:27 pm

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What are some shooters which have... not enough photos of themselves? Of which shooter would you like to see more photos?

I've been dying for years to see other photo of Marc Lepine and I think I saw it in one documentary, but I struggle to find it again.

Larry Gene Ashbrook also have only one photo (on which he looks badass)

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Joseph Wesbecker also had only one photo of him in the media, but I finally found one other in some documentary.

What about you?

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“Larry Gene Ashbrook also have only one photo (on which he looks badass)”

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I saw this one while ago. It's funny he stayed with this haircut for his entire life.

Still, it's strange there isn't any other photo of him as an adult.
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Marc Lepine with his sister as a child.
Funny. I recently came across a number of photos including this one. Here are a couple more.

Another one with his sister.
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And what appears to be a school picture.
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There were more photos of his sister but I didn't save them. This is the information that Peter Langman gathered on Marc's relationship with his sister, Nadia.
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If his feelings for his mother were positive, the same cannot be said of his feelings for his sister, Nadia. She was 3½ years younger, but was more assertive and dominant than Marc. As they grew up, she thought he was weird. She teased him and taunted him and put him down in front of his friends. When she saw him kiss a girl she burst out laughing and he felt humiliated. When he didn’t have a girlfriend, she made fun of him and called him “gay.” When Marc was twelve or thirteen years old he was so enraged by Nadia that he made a mock grave and tombstone for her in the backyard, with her name and photograph on the gravestone. Later, Nadia became a drug addict in early adolescence and spent four years in a residential treatment program. She never maintained any stability, abused drugs, prostituted herself, and eventually committed suicide several years after her brother’s rampage
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PostSubject: Re: Shooters with lack of photos   Shooters with lack of photos Icon_minitimeSun Mar 11, 2018 6:26 pm

I remember a photo of Randy Stair with his family on Mother's Day. Sadly the brother removed the picture.
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PostSubject: Re: Shooters with lack of photos   Shooters with lack of photos Icon_minitimeSun Mar 11, 2018 6:33 pm

There isn't that many pictures of Michael Kenneth McLendon.

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theres only a few photos/videos of Asa Coon
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Enesbrietchvonfrederitch wrote:
Can i see his suicide photo too?
Sent.

I'm probably late but can u send it to me too?
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InsaneIntruder wrote:
Enesbrietchvonfrederitch wrote:
Can i see his suicide photo too?
Sent.

I'm probably late but can u send it to me too?
Sorry, I would but my PMs are disabled.
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PostSubject: Re: Shooters with lack of photos   Shooters with lack of photos Icon_minitimeSun Jul 29, 2018 9:30 am

Smiggles94 wrote:
rabadon55 wrote:
What are some shooters which have... not enough photos of themselves? Of which shooter would you like to see more photos?

I've been dying for years to see other photo of Marc Lepine and I think I saw it in one documentary, but I struggle to find it again.

Larry Gene Ashbrook also have only one photo (on which he looks badass)

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Joseph Wesbecker also had only one photo of him in the media, but I finally found one other in some documentary.

What about you?

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