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fly-with-me
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| Subject: Boys over-represented? Wed Jan 10, 2018 2:56 pm | |
| It seems like most massmurderers are male: Sandy Hook, Virginia, Aurora, Las Vegas, Columbine etc. all had male perpetrators. Do you think boys are just inherently more murderous than girls? Or is there some other reason why boys do bad things? | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Boys over-represented? Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:12 pm | |
| The first part started out as a legitimate statement. Indeed most are male. But then the post took a bad turn.
With that being said, I don't think men are more "murderous" then women. Women are more then capable of murder. People in general are capable of doing bad things. Being male or female has very little to do with it.
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Screamingophelia Other Crimes Moderator & Top 10 Contributor
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| Subject: Re: Boys over-represented? Wed Jan 10, 2018 4:06 pm | |
| - ShadowedGoddess wrote:
- The first part started out as a legitimate statement. Indeed most are male. But then the post took a bad turn.
With that being said, I don't think men are more "murderous" then women. Women are more then capable of murder. People in general are capable of doing bad things. Being male or female has very little to do with it.
It's something interesting to look at it, but I'd hate to get bogged down in the whole current year toxic masculinity thing... The first school shooter was a female. We've had female serial killers and murderers. Why are most mass shooters and school shooters men? That's something to ponder. | |
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STK
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| Subject: Re: Boys over-represented? Wed Jan 10, 2018 4:30 pm | |
| - Screamingophelia wrote:
The first school shooter was a female. We've had female serial killers and murderers.
I don't want to ruin the point you're trying to make, but Brenda Spencer was definitely not the first school shooter, not even the first American school shooter. That honor goes to Charles Whitman, who killed 15 people (including a man who died years later from complications resulting from injuries he sustained during the shooting, and an unborn child) and wounded 31 others from the University of Texas at Austin, Texas's clocktower, all after killing his wife and mother. There was also an American school bombing in 1927, which remains the worst non-terror related rampage killing at a school (killing 44 and wounding 58, not including the attacker). The very first rampage school shooting occurred in 1913 in Germany, when Heinz Schmidt killed 4 people and injured 21 others with several handguns at a catholic school (another person broke their neck and died while attempting to escape). _________________ "If opportunities for role fulfilment fall far short of the demand by those capable of filling roles, and having expectations to do so, only violence and disruption of social organization can follow. Individuals born under these circumstances will be so out of touch with reality as to be incapable even of alienation. Their most complex behaviors will become fragmented. Acquisition, creation and utilization of ideas appropriate for life in a post-industrial cultural-conceptual-technological society will have been blocked." - John B. Calhoun
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Screamingophelia Other Crimes Moderator & Top 10 Contributor
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| Subject: Re: Boys over-represented? Wed Jan 10, 2018 4:34 pm | |
| - STK wrote:
- Screamingophelia wrote:
The first school shooter was a female. We've had female serial killers and murderers.
I don't want to ruin the point you're trying to make, but Brenda Spencer was definitely not the first school shooter, not even the first American school shooter. That honor goes to Charles Whitman, who killed 15 people (including a man who died years later from complications resulting from injuries he sustained during the shooting, and an unborn child) and wounded 31 others from the University of Texas at Austin, Texas's clocktower, all after killing his wife and mother. There was also an American school bombing in 1927, which remains the worst non-terror related rampage killing at a school (killing 44 and wounding 58, not including the attacker). The very first rampage school shooting occurred in 1913 in Germany, when Heinz Schmidt killed 4 people and injured 21 others with several handguns at a catholic school (another person broke their neck and died while attempting to escape). I forgot about Charles Whitman! Thank you STK, I want to make sure I get my facts correct :-) | |
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| Subject: Re: Boys over-represented? Wed Jan 10, 2018 4:48 pm | |
| I was going to reply simply with "Well boys will be boys.." But I decided to NOT answer in a sarcastic manner. |
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fly-with-me
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| Subject: Re: Boys over-represented? Wed Jan 10, 2018 5:04 pm | |
| - ShadowedGoddess wrote:
- The first part started out as a legitimate statement. Indeed most are male. But then the post took a bad turn.
With that being said, I don't think men are more "murderous" then women. Women are more then capable of murder. People in general are capable of doing bad things.
I didn't claim women are not capable of murder. - ShadowedGoddess wrote:
Being male or female has very little to do with it.
According to a graph im looking at (I'm not allowed to post links ) 97% of mass shooting were committed by boys in the USA 1982-2017. I can't help but to find such a disparity suspicious. If being male or female has little to no impact, I must feel a bit unsettled. | |
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| Subject: Re: Boys over-represented? Wed Jan 10, 2018 5:44 pm | |
| - fly-with-me wrote:
- I didn't claim women are not capable of murder.
According to a graph im looking at (I'm not allowed to post links ) 97% of mass shooting were committed by boys in the USA 1982-2017. I can't help but to find such a disparity suspicious. If being male or female has little to no impact, I must feel a bit unsettled. Nor did I say that you claimed women weren't capable of murder. I also said nothing about the fact that most mass shooters are indeed men. I said nothing more then that in my opinion gender has nothing to do with someone's ability to commit murder. |
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TheSpiral
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| Subject: Re: Boys over-represented? Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:45 am | |
| Males are more predisposed to violence and murder than women. It's a fact as far as I'm concerned, and like OP said, there is statistical data backing that up. Male minds are wired differently than female minds. Women are capable of murder, but not many women act on it like men do. Be it domestic abuse, violence, murder, men outshine women in all of them. _________________ Falling out of airplanes and hiding out in holes Waiting for the sunset to come, people going home Jump out from behind them and shoot them in the head Now everybody dancing, the dance of the dead The dance of the dead, the dance of the dead
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fly-with-me
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| Subject: Re: Boys over-represented? Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:30 am | |
| - ShadowedGoddess wrote:
- I said nothing more then that in my opinion gender has nothing to do with someone's ability to commit murder.
I agree with you. Do you have a hypothesis why guys are more prone to do it? Here is that graph I mentioned earlier: [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] | |
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| Subject: Re: Boys over-represented? Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:57 am | |
| - fly-with-me wrote:
- ShadowedGoddess wrote:
- I said nothing more then that in my opinion gender has nothing to do with someone's ability to commit murder.
I agree with you.
Do you have a hypothesis why guys are more prone to do it?
Here is that graph I mentioned earlier: [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] There are countless studies, graphs, reports, tons of speculation on WHY, etc. You could say that it is how men are wired, how they are raised. BUT truth be told I have no clue why more men seem to do things like this. Other then the fact it is just the way things are in this world. From the first records of humans on this planet, it has been filled with things like this. Humans are the most destructive beings on this earth. Not only to ourselves but to everything. So with that being said I will now use the silly, semi sarcastic remark of "Boys will be boys". But seriously your guess is just as good as mine. |
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