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Subject: Who has a actually seen the Basement Tapes Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:42 pm
Sorry for asking, as Im sure it's been asked countless times but who has actually seen the tapes? Obviously the police, Sue Klebold and some journalists and Brooks Brown's parents but did any of the victims families come and watch them? I wonder if any of them are able to demand a copy of the tapes from the FBI as some of the documentation specifically states that some (if not all) of the tapes were copied and given over to them.
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Subject: Re: Who has a actually seen the Basement Tapes Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:32 pm
Not sure how many of the parents did, but Rachel's father did (he is the one who leaked some of the audio). I believe some employees of TIME magazine got to see them and three members of the Threat Assessment Group had a screening in 2002. I can't remember if Dave Cullen was granted a viewing or not?
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Subject: Re: Who has a actually seen the Basement Tapes Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:02 pm
Pretty sure Danny Rohrbough's family also saw them.
And I'd bet the Mausers as well.
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Subject: Re: Who has a actually seen the Basement Tapes Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:08 pm
I vaguely remember Cullen not being allowed to see them.
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Subject: Re: Who has a actually seen the Basement Tapes Sat Jan 20, 2018 3:05 am
The best I've managed is the complete transcripts, with scene settings and whatnot. I'm reluctant to believe all copies have been destroyed.
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Subject: Re: Who has a actually seen the Basement Tapes Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:38 am
I don't think we have full transcripts. The BT are said to be about 3 hours.
Rampart Range is part of the BT I think.
A script for a 3 hour film would be a lot more pages than what we have.
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Subject: Re: Who has a actually seen the Basement Tapes Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:22 am
MalonsMilk wrote:
Sorry for asking, as Im sure it's been asked countless times but who has actually seen the tapes? Obviously the police, Sue Klebold and some journalists and Brooks Brown's parents but did any of the victims families come and watch them?
Denver Post wrote:
They hoped for answers. And after viewing a 45-minute version of the Columbine High killers' suicide tapes, some victims' families found at least a few.
Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold "were very confused and filled with hate, no respect for anyone's life,'' said Brad Bernall, whose daughter, Cassie, was killed in the school library.
"They even joked about their own lives,'' Bernall said. "It meant nothing to them.''
Bernall was among about a dozen relatives from seven victim families who watched a condensed version of the tapes at Jefferson County sheriff's headquarters in Golden on Monday evening (Dec 13, 1999).
Sheriff John Stone met with the families before they viewed the tapes and apologized and admitted he made a mistake by allowing a Time magazine reporter to see them before the families had, relatives said.
Other families who wish to view the full two hours of tapes may do so at a later date.
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Subject: Re: Who has a actually seen the Basement Tapes Sat Jan 20, 2018 12:26 pm
Screamingophelia wrote:
I don't think we have full transcripts. The BT are said to be about 3 hours.
Rampart Range is part of the BT I think.
A script for a 3 hour film would be a lot more pages than what we have.
There is my attempt to add all the transcripts from Time, and the Denver post together. Along with other sources into a more complete transcript. Here they are if you want to take a look. Also PM me if you have more to add-https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qb_MTXTJEGewIBGYJq0lz9y7Xz-HzXPLOuim-7mVQRg/edit?usp=sharing
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Subject: Re: Who has a actually seen the Basement Tapes Sat Jan 20, 2018 12:33 pm
Thank you!!! I appreciate that.
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Subject: Re: Who has a actually seen the Basement Tapes Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:22 pm
Pretty sure Rachel Scott's family saw them too (or at least her dad). Isn't there an audio leak of a short part of the tapes that is attributed to him?
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Subject: Re: Who has a actually seen the Basement Tapes Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:12 pm
milkwood wrote:
Pretty sure Rachel Scott's family saw them too (or at least her dad). Isn't there an audio leak of a short part of the tapes that is attributed to him?
Yes! Rachel's dad thought they were talking about Rachel Scott, but they weren't. Dylan was the only one who knew Rachel and it was casually at best, according to his friend he didn't have any animosity as far as she knew.
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Subject: Re: Who has a actually seen the Basement Tapes Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:52 pm
Cullen was not allowed to see them. He says so in the citations portion of his book, towards the back.
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Subject: Re: Who has a actually seen the Basement Tapes Sun Feb 24, 2019 3:53 am
Mr Scott brought an audio recorder to the screening, wanting to prove his daughter was targeted and he recorded a 30 second clip from the tapes, including the "christian godly whores" part from H&K
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Subject: Re: Who has a actually seen the Basement Tapes Sun Feb 24, 2019 1:51 pm
Screamingophelia wrote:
I don't think we have full transcripts. The BT are said to be about 3 hours.
Rampart Range is part of the BT I think.
A script for a 3 hour film would be a lot more pages than what we have.
Pretty sure Hitmen for Hire, Rampart Range, and Radioactive Clothing are all part of the BT.
They say there were five tapes, but we have 3 or 4. So, the other 1 or 2 are likely Hitmen for Hire and/or Rampart Range. One of the tapes was also labeled "Top Secret Rampart". When they were released, they certainly acted like they were part of the BT.
On [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], "Reb's Tape", it says there were two tapes and the second was the following: "This tape contains footage possibly filmed for school by Dylan and Eric. Both boys are seen in the footage, along with two other people identified as Tex and Browsky." Sounds like Radioactive Clothing to me.
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