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Subject: Which Shooting Was The most horrfiying? Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:15 pm
Which School Shooting Was really horrifying to you?
Columbine
Virginia tech
Sandy hook
Stoneman Douglas
If you have any others, feel free to comment what they are
Personally, I feel Sandy hook was horrifying. I mean children were murdered and their families never got to say goodbye
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Subject: Re: Which Shooting Was The most horrfiying? Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:28 pm
None was especially horrifying on an emotional level. Sandy Hook probably stands out more then the rest for me. It is because the shooter was part of the forums, I know he read our posts. My posts.
That hit closer to home than the rest.
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Subject: Re: Which Shooting Was The most horrfiying? Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:28 pm
It's not a SCHOOL shooting, but probably the Tsuyama massacre, due to Toi targetting people's homes. Imagine sleeping at night and then a crazy murderer with a shotgun breaks in and shoots you and your family. According to the movie Village of Doom (which was based on his massacre, and is apparently very accurate) he appears to have actually messed with some of his victims before shooting them, similarly to Columbine, and if that really did happen in real life that makes it even worse.
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Subject: Re: Which Shooting Was The most horrfiying? Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:39 pm
Sandy Hook and I recently learned more about the shooting at the engineering school in Quebec and that was absolutely horrifying to me.
I know we have had discussions about it but the Sandy Hook shooting will always be the most horrifying because it was a 20 something year old killing 6 year olds...
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Subject: Re: Which Shooting Was The most horrfiying? Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:44 pm
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I recently learned more about the shooting at the engineering school in Quebec and that was absolutely horrifying to me.
Dawson College? I mean every shooting is scary to some point, but I am curious what was it about Kimveer Gill that made him stand out?
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Subject: Re: Which Shooting Was The most horrfiying? Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:46 pm
Sabratha wrote:
Screamingophelia wrote:
I recently learned more about the shooting at the engineering school in Quebec and that was absolutely horrifying to me.
Dawson College? I mean every shooting is scary to some point, but I am curious what was it about Kimveer Gill that made him stand out?
They were probably talking about the École Polytechnique shooting.
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Subject: Re: Which Shooting Was The most horrfiying? Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:49 pm
InsaneIntruder wrote:
Sabratha wrote:
Screamingophelia wrote:
I recently learned more about the shooting at the engineering school in Quebec and that was absolutely horrifying to me.
Dawson College? I mean every shooting is scary to some point, but I am curious what was it about Kimveer Gill that made him stand out?
They were probably talking about the École Polytechnique shooting.
Yes! That’s the one. It just sounded like it lasted so long and he was targeting a specific type of person etc...
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Subject: Re: Which Shooting Was The most horrfiying? Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:37 am
The 2017 Las Vegas shooting was the only attack to generate nausea in my abdominal area.
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Subject: Re: Which Shooting Was The most horrfiying? Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:16 am
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Subject: Re: Which Shooting Was The most horrfiying? Thu Jul 19, 2018 4:08 pm
Stoneman Douglas, only because there had been so many before and the kids knew what was coming, which I think made it scarier
on another note, I think Utøya was definitely the scariest shooting of all. Being a kid trapped in an island filled with other kids, with a random man shooting at everyone with such a cool and calm demeanor must've ben very terrifying.
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Subject: Re: Which Shooting Was The most horrfiying? Fri Jul 20, 2018 2:49 am
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Subject: Re: Which Shooting Was The most horrfiying? Fri Jul 20, 2018 2:50 am
Sabratha wrote:
None was especially horrifying on an emotional level. Sandy Hook probably stands out more then the rest for me. It is because the shooter was part of the forums, I know he read our posts. My posts.
That hit closer to home than the rest.
Holy shit. I didn't even know that
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Subject: Re: Which Shooting Was The most horrfiying? Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:01 am
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Subject: Re: Which Shooting Was The most horrfiying? Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:43 am
Sandy Hook, without a doubt.
I remember waking up that day. For me, it was just another day. I was groggy but excited for the UFC fights coming up. And so I checked Facebook (I know, I know, booooo but anyways) and there was the usual news headline: There's been a shooting at a Connecticut school or something of that sort and my eyes kinda skimmed over it. Oh okay. I'm desensitized to it by then and I have Aspergers, that's my only defense for that reaction in hindsight.
And then I see that something like twenty of the victims are kids ages six to seven. I felt like I'd been socked in the gut, literally I physically felt all the wind go out of me and my stomach sank in this really sickening way I'd never felt before and haven't since. And then I see that the guy is my exact age, born two days after me, has Aspergers... all this stuff just hitting me over and over like stab wounds as the story develops.
It really sucked. I think that changed my life for the better because I.. won't go into details but I was and kind of still am a lot like Adam. And it's really eerie for me tbh. It was more than horrifying.
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Subject: Re: Which Shooting Was The most horrfiying? Fri Jul 20, 2018 12:54 pm
I was in 5th grade when Sandy Hook happened, I saw the headline on Yahoo which was my family computers home page and I remember feeling kinda shocked, and feeling bad for those kids, at first I hated Adam Lanza, but the more I learn about him on his views on civilization, the more I kinda understand him and research more about his life
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Subject: Re: Which Shooting Was The most horrfiying? Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:35 am
My seventh birthday was two days before Columbine, but I don't remember much about it besides a sudden uptick in 'gun safety' videos we had to watch, we had transparent backpacks, we had to keep our shirts tucked so we couldn't conceal weapons in our waistbands, etc etc.
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Subject: Re: Which Shooting Was The most horrfiying? Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:51 am
EricsToastInTheCaf wrote:
My seventh birthday was two days before Columbine, but I don't remember much about it besides a sudden uptick in 'gun safety' videos we had to watch, we had transparent backpacks, we had to keep our shirts tucked so we couldn't conceal weapons in our waistbands, etc etc.
"transparent backpacks" Huh, I guess Stoneman Douglas wasn't the first school to do that after a shooting.
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Subject: Re: Which Shooting Was The most horrfiying? Sat Jul 21, 2018 7:21 pm
Sandy Hook for several reasons:
1. The high number of casualties. 2. Documents released describe the crime scene detailedly. 3. There are so many mysteries regarding this shooting like the motive, what was on the shooters hard drive and so on . 4. Do I need to mention that a massacre happening at an elementary school is a reason enough?
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Subject: Re: Which Shooting Was The most horrfiying? Sat Jul 28, 2018 3:47 pm
I would have to say Dunblane as it was little children that got shot and that it happened in a country that has never had a School shooting or a mass shooting (apart from Hungerford).
I also think it's horrifying that it could of been easily prevented.
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Subject: Re: Which Shooting Was The most horrfiying? Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:48 pm
Sandy Hook, Just the thought someone running into a room of children, followed by what seems like neverending deafning gunshots and children screaming. quite a disturbing shooting considering how quick it happened and the sheer volume of dead children.
Or Dunblane, a Malevolent pedophile who guns down and executes children in a school gym with hollow points and Full metal jackets to get back at Society for not allowing him to host scout groups and "boys clubs". Dunblane is one of the more creepy and morbid massacres out there.
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Subject: Re: Which Shooting Was The most horrfiying? Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:19 am
Sandy Hook for obvious reasons.
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Subject: Re: Which Shooting Was The most horrfiying? Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:53 pm
I’d say the Las Vegas shooting. Just imagine being at that concert and not knowing where the gunfire is coming from. That would be extremely terrifying. It’s not a school shooting but in terms of mass shootings, I’d say that’s the scariest. Scariest school shooting would be Sandy Hook because of all the little kids being killed.
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Subject: Re: Which Shooting Was The most horrfiying? Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:54 pm
EricsToastInTheCaf wrote:
My seventh birthday was two days before Columbine, but I don't remember much about it besides a sudden uptick in 'gun safety' videos we had to watch, we had transparent backpacks, we had to keep our shirts tucked so we couldn't conceal weapons in our waistbands, etc etc.
That makes sense. Might as well teach kids early.
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Subject: Re: Which Shooting Was The most horrfiying? Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:10 pm
I think it was horrifyinghow many people were stuck in there until at least 4 PM at Columbine
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Subject: Re: Which Shooting Was The most horrfiying? Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:29 pm
The most horrifying school shooting is Dunblane in my opinion. 15/17 of Hamilton's dead victims were five year olds, with the other two being a six year old and the teacher. He has the youngest targeting of any mass shooter I can recall. Damiao Santos and Kim Gelder did go after younger age groups, but they aren't mass shooters. Watching the video of the Madden tournament shooting was the only time where I actually felt nauseous and had a bunch of adrenaline going through me. It felt like I was actually there. Francisco Gonzales and David Burke shot up cockpits, resulting in everyone on those flights dying. I'd consider the most brutal mass murderers to be Damiao Santos and whoever did this: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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Subject: Re: Which Shooting Was The most horrfiying? Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:16 am
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] The Luxor Massacre was pretty awful. Dozens of tourists who were just trying to have a good time visiting some old temple were trapped inside and systematically executed before having their corpses mutilated by machetes; the attackers even went as far as disemboweling one victim before placing a note in their abdominal cavity. The attack was so horrific that it totally destroyed public support for Islamist terror groups in Egypt.
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Subject: Re: Which Shooting Was The most horrfiying? Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:35 am
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Those attackers committed group suicide in a cave, right? I recall reading the Wikipedia page for it and also read a bit about it in a Charlie Munger book back in June 2018.
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Subject: Re: Which Shooting Was The most horrfiying? Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:41 am
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Those attackers committed group suicide in a cave, right? I recall reading the Wikipedia page for it and also read a bit about it in a Charlie Munger book back in June 2018.
Yes, I remember it from when I first read about the attack in a section of "The Looming Tower" The Looming Tower, Page 258 "The attacker's bodies were later found in a cave, arranged in a circle. The Egyptian press speculated that they had been murdered by the outraged village posse, but they apparently killed themselves in a ritualistic suicide. One of the men had a note in his pocket, apologizing for not carrying out the operation sooner."
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Subject: Re: Which Shooting Was The most horrfiying? Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:46 am
The McDonald's shooting in 1984 was brutal!
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Subject: Re: Which Shooting Was The most horrfiying? Thu Mar 28, 2019 6:00 am
Sandy Hook. One of the family members of the adult victims talked about how Lanza's .223's left baseball size holes in the person's body. Apply that to victims with half the body width of adults, and...
The only Mass Shooting to make me cry.
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Subject: Re: Which Shooting Was The most horrfiying? Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:52 pm
Las Vegas mass shooting without a doubt. I was there on /pol/ on 9/11/17 when John Beilman posted the warning and prophecy known as the "high incident project" about Michael Chertoff and Sheldon Adleson and i believe there were multiple shooters and helicopters and Stephen Paddock was framed and was an arms dealer who worked for the government in the 1980s dealing arms to the Mujihadeen and Osama Bin Laden and knew him and Adnan Kashoggi and Al Waleed bin Talal and Jamal Kashoggi personally. It's why Jamal Kashoggi was forced to play Saw 2018 on October 2 2018 one year after Las Vegas. If you belive our government wouldn't fuck up arms deals remember Iran Contra and Fast and Furious? Stephen Paddock knew Barry Seal. Stephen Paddocks Mandalay Bay arms deal or sting was turned into a mass shooting, a assassination, assassination attempt, and insider trading. The night the Sutherland Springs shooting happened the paradise papers came out and some body on reddit said paradise papers were coming 2 weeks before the paradise papers leaked. On 11/4/17 "someone" posted on /pol/ the FBI was going to cause a false flag and to watch Texas the next day. On 11/5/17 president Donald Trump gathered with his generals and the news and said "we have the best military in the world" and "i guess this is the calm before the storm" Gladio is real northwoods never was stopped. Devin Patrick Kelly purchased an assault rifle from Stephen Paddocks Central Parks Apts in Mesquite Texas. Remember Stephen Paddocks email accounts called centralpark4808 and centralpark1 and the emails he sent that made it look like he was selling his guns to buyers? Remember Garland Texas Mohammad shooting and the FBI pushing the shooter to do it? What if i told you some mass shootings are black operations.
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Subject: Re: Which Shooting Was The most horrfiying? Sun Mar 31, 2019 2:00 am
the UT shooting, with the Whitman guy. The one thing that got me the most was the lady losing her baby from Whitman shooting her in her side and someone yelling at them while she and her boyfriend, wounded and dead laying on the ground thinking they were protesting.
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Subject: Re: Which Shooting Was The most horrfiying? Fri Apr 05, 2019 5:27 pm
Sandy Hook cos the children were 5-6 years old and Adam was so terrifying looking.
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Subject: Re: Which Shooting Was The most horrfiying? Fri Apr 05, 2019 5:44 pm
Probably the New Zealand shooting, not just because of the video but because of how he did it, constantly shooting corpses, how the Muslim welcomed him before getting shot, his manifesto, the fact that people support him etc. Everything's just messed up.
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Subject: Re: Which Shooting Was The most horrfiying? Fri Apr 05, 2019 6:18 pm
I cannot pick one but here are those I find the most horrifying (in no order):
-Bataclan shooting: I guess it is because I am French but this shooting really traumatized me and everyone. People were trapped in such a small and crowded place and couldn't really hide except under corpses. The details told in Netflix series are awful. Since then I feel safe in no crowded/tourist place. Also because three people who died during the Paris November attacks were in my university and I had to see their pictures everyday for two weeks after the attacks. This shooting is the only "horrifying" one that I lived, not because I was there but because I was aware of what happened and watched the news. For all the others I was either not born, too young or didn't really care at the time. And when it happens in your own country, and especially in a place where you could have been, and even have been changes everything.
-Ecole Polytechnique shooting, especially when he went into the class and asked girls and boys to seperate, and you didn't know if you were in the right group until he told boys to leave the room. The movie is great.
-Las Vegas shooting: because victims were so vulnerable, had no place to hide quickly and didn't know where it was shooting from. Also because the weapons were almost automatic, and it makes it more scarier to me.
-Sandy Hook and the Cologne School Massacre: for obvious reasons, although I find the Cologne Massacre (not a shooting though) even more horrifying because these poor kids died in the most painful way. And no kid died on the day of the massacre, but after, up to 19 days for one. It was awful for the parents.
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Subject: Re: Which Shooting Was The most horrfiying? Fri Apr 05, 2019 7:56 pm
Sabratha wrote:
None was especially horrifying on an emotional level. Sandy Hook probably stands out more then the rest for me. It is because the shooter was part of the forums, I know he read our posts. My posts.
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Subject: Re: Which Shooting Was The most horrfiying? Fri Apr 05, 2019 8:55 pm
UCC shooting. That is because someone was forced to watch the whole thing with the shooter’s consent and that is just plain sick.
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Subject: Re: Which Shooting Was The most horrfiying? Fri Apr 05, 2019 11:01 pm
Sandy Hook, without a doubt. Adam Lanza just obliterating tiny kids.
One child was apparently found missing his jaw.
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Subject: Re: Which Shooting Was The most horrfiying? Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:26 pm
Nova Scotia. People burning to death, the shooter tying people up and disguising as a cop, and the shooter constantly being on the move.
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Subject: Re: Which Shooting Was The most horrfiying? Sat Apr 10, 2021 4:16 am
Sandy Hook definitely, it's just the age of the victims, the time it happened, and the way they were shot at- it's just all fucked up and I just wish AL could've been helped sooner. Like... the victims were mostly first graders, it's just so disturbing and sad. No other shooting except for Parkland and maybe Columbine briefly made me feel like what I felt when reading about Sandy Hook. ... And the hoaxers can go fuck themselves too, go back to their flat earth shit I mean- the hoaxers I believe are definitely flat earthers.
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Subject: Re: Which Shooting Was The most horrfiying? Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:36 pm
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Subject: Re: Which Shooting Was The most horrfiying? Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:37 pm
Sandy Hook, Beslan and Columbine. Sandy Hook for obvious reason it were little kids been murdered, Beslan for how many people died and it took days and Columbine because it was the first one I got interest
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Subject: Re: Which Shooting Was The most horrfiying? Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:40 pm
Probably just me but the Kauhajoki school shooting. Matti's peers didn't really have a chance and witnesses said he was very aggressive. It just scares me thinking about it.
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Subject: Re: Which Shooting Was The most horrfiying? Tue Apr 13, 2021 3:24 pm
Sandy Hook, saw it on the news on the same day or the day after.
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Subject: Re: Which Shooting Was The most horrfiying? Sun Apr 18, 2021 1:27 am
The Christchurch Mosque shooting. The fact it was all recorded makes it very horrifying.
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Subject: Re: Which Shooting Was The most horrfiying? Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:37 pm
Zero.. My mind is absolutely bullet proof!
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Subject: Re: Which Shooting Was The most horrfiying? Wed Jul 07, 2021 12:18 am
The main scary thing about shootings is the death toll. By comparison, everything about stabbings is chilling. If you get slashed, you're in agony but will probably survive. If you get stabbed deep, you often times only feel a coldness, not pain, and might only notice you're injured until after you've lost a lot of blood. Someone going at you with a gun is scary, but a melee weapon is instinctually terrifying, especially considering some victims get stabbed in the eye. In terms of specific attacks, I'd say the 2021 Pro-Childhood Aquarela stabbing and the 2010 Weifang attack (targeted a preschool, used hammers, and self-immolated, maybe after trying to take kids with him in his final blaze.) Anyone can do a shooting, but that takes a special kind of messed up individual.
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Subject: Re: Which Shooting Was The most horrfiying? Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:28 am
Personally I would say Virginia Tech.
The fact that I've been to VA tech, how many people died that day, the way Cho carried out his massacre, and knowing he only had two pistols.
My mother used to work with two people who were attending Virginia Tech at the time of the shooting and I've heard stories, I couldn't imagine facing Cho. I've also seen several videos of eyewitnesses and they described how Cho would go down the rows shooting, and would kill almost everyone. Even the animation is haunting.
When I visited the Virginia Tech memorial it felt so dark, I didn't want to be there for long.
Cho is one of the mass shooters I have a hard time researching and I've had a lot of nightmares about.
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Subject: Re: Which Shooting Was The most horrfiying? Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:55 pm
Cologne School Shooting - Walter Seifurt attacked the school with a flamethrower, with some of his victims having burns to over 90% of their body.
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Subject: Re: Which Shooting Was The most horrfiying?